Are u sure Lancaster has better rankings? Can u show me the rankings?

The Economist ranks Stratclyde at No 10 in Europe (Lancaster is ranked no 31):
http://www.economist.com/whichmba/mba-rankings/europe

In the Global list, The Economis ranks Stratclyde at No 40 (Lancaster at No 95):
http://www.economist.com/whichmba/full-tim...e_tid_depth=All

Financial Times ranks Stratchlyde at No 73 in their Global List (Lancaster at No 77):
(See attachment)

The Economist ROI & Post MBA Salary ranking:
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21601884-payback-time

Stratchlyde = ROI 43.2%, post MBA salary US$110,196
Lancaster = ROI 31.1%, post MBA salary US$65,445

The Strathclyde MBA is also Triple Accredited (similar to Lancaster). The top global business schools dont need triple accredition but for the second tier, this accredition is important.

But you need to ask these questions and get clear answers first:

1) Does the Triple Accredition cover this particular part time MBA program offered in Malaysia?
2) Upon completion, who issues the transcripts? Lancaster Uni or Sunway?
3) What is the percentage of lectures conducted personally by Lancaster Uni lecturers?
4) What is the percentage of local lecturers input?
5) Ask for a copy of the MBA completion certificate

Read the fine print. That will determine the final quality of your MBA.

Msian companies, including branches of foreign firms do not pay a premium for an MBA. More so for locally obtained MBAs. The only MBAs that would mean something are those from top schools. Those are your INSEAD, Harvard, Wharton etc. That again, if you have those MBAs, you are unlikely to work in Msia and if you do, you're likely on an expat package, oversee a major operation in Msia or ASEAN(likely based in SG)

With that in mind, it's better for Msians to work at blue chip firms to build up their CVs. That is more valuable than an MBA because: if you are sick of Msia and have a bluechip firm on your CV(doing good stuff too, you shouldn't be processing payments for say Intel), you can quite easily get something in HK or Singapore. Conversely, if you get an MBA from say Strathclyde or God forbid, UM, they are worth nothing in markets in SG and HK. Do remember than SG has INSEAD, NUS, NTU and SMU. HK has its own good programs too. On top of that, you have got foreigners there holding Good European and American MBAs. Who gives a damn on Msian jaguh kampung MBAs?

Considering all, it really doesn't matter to do any MBA in Msia to be 'competitive' in the Msian market place.

And it will be another PUGSOM......

Be that as it may, even if Harvard sets up an affiliate program here, it won't be something like the real deal.

Check out MISI. It was set up by MIT and offers a similar SCM program that they have at Cambridge. You may think that people would see them as identical but there are differences......one won't be an alumnus of MIT but an associate alumnus. It is also false representation to state that one has studied at MIT on one's CV. Despite the similarities of the program, one has to put MISI.....but what is MISI? Employers won't know.

Good schools have too much to lose if the program flops here through the incompetence of local partners, more so if they use their own names. So as always, they make sure another name is used while they provide the content for the programs.

Many reasons why it can't work here.

One, those programs charge a premium. Msians and our grade of foreigners have been priced out by it. Singaporeans and their foreigners find it easier to finance their programs. Let's not forget about the quality of the applicants too.
Two, Singapore is a major commercial centre. APAC or ASEAN leads of firms are based there. Which means the business environment is mature and vibrant enough for business schools to thrive. We know MBS is a good school, one of the best in the UK in fact but people there remark that it loses out to Imperial because of the location.
Three, governance matters. I don't expect the government here to meddle with the running of those schools. Despite that we will never know. I won't be surprised if there is a Msian study/islamic study requirement slapped onto it.

The most important factors would be one and two. Msia just isn't a place for professionals to undergo executive education.

Nonsense. Please go and do some proper homework and dont just believe the sales talk that Sunway gives la. I analysed both programs and im well aware of what both programs offer. Did u know that the Sunway MBA program u mentioned is not triple accredited? Go ask Sunway why they are misleading students by telling them otherwise? I spoke to Prof. Brian C. Imrie who is the Head of the Marketing Dept for this program. Who did u speak to? Serena?

Strathclyde is the best in Malaysia. Period.

Ask yourself this question: Why is it expensive? U want a Ivy League type education program and pay the same fee u pay UM? Common la. This is MIT ure talking about. MIT is already doing a program for Space Interplanetory Supply Chain fully funded by NASA with the aim to set up a colony on Mars. What does that tell you about MIT's capability? So please dont compare with the local versions.

Like is said earlier. Do you want a worthless piece of paper just for your ego of having done a Masters program or you want something that actually boosts your career?

And for your info, the MIT Masters in Suppply Chain part time program is only RM55K and you can get a part scholarship if ure good. So dont know what ure refering to when u say its expensive.

First of all, i never used the accredition as a differential criteria. My point was to highlight the fact that Sunway was misleading people by that statement when in fact only the Lancaster business school is triple accredited not the Sunway program. As for the standings of each business school, Strathclyde ranks higher as well. As to the importance of the triple accredition, the top 30 programs in the world dont quite need it as their programs speak for themselves. But for the others, the accredition does hold weight especially if one is looking for overseas employment e.g in Europe.

And for the MIT Masters program, the full time 10 months program gets the full accredition from MIT America. The part time program does not but students undertaking the part time program are offered an option to do the last 5 months full time (depending on their results) and spend 4 weeks at the MIT main campus in USA in January before completing their final case study and then getting full accredition from MIT USA. But in both options, the students are guaranteed of significant career progression as the MIT Supply Chain program is world renowned.

BFM Podcast with MIT MISI CEO Dr Mahinder Singh from MIT USA:
http://www.bfm.my/investkl-conversations-i...isi-part-1.html

Article in The Star:
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...sean/?style=biz

Werent u the one who said this MIT program was a con job? Next time check first bro before commenting yea. 

MIT Space Logistics Project: (this is how advanced MIT is in supply chain)
http://strategic.mit.edu/spacelogistics/

Target to build a complete Lunar outpost by 2023.

The Certificates do not have any impact on the triple accredition. The bottom line is the Lancaster Sunway MBA program is NOT triple accredited. Ive got this confirmation in writing direct from Sunway itself so there is no doubt.

The Strathclyde MBA program has better quality program participants. That's a fact and if ure well versed with MBA programs, the quality of the students is a very important factor.

Ask those in the working industry in UK and they will tell u that Strathclyde is more recognised than Lancaster for their MBA programs.

As for the world rankings, Lancaster dropped from No 71 in 2013 to No 77 in 2014 while Strathclyde improved 14 places to No 73 in 2014. Who cares about the past? Its the present which counts.

MBA programs are not just about selecting whats GOOD cuz there are no BAD programs. But there is a huge difference between GOOD and BEST. U dont need a Harvard MBA but there is a huge difference between the Top 10 MBA's and the rest of the MBA's in the world.

Bro, ive done extensive research on this so i know my facts. Which is why im not going for either program. Im trying to gain entry into INSEAD in Singapore.

Well its either you dont know much about the MIT MISI program or you have now realised that its not a dud program like what you claimed earlier but now finding it difficult to admit to your error in judgement hence the 'argument still stands' statement. 

Either way, masters degree for the MISI full time program is from MIT itself. Ive seen the cert myself. Every single bit of info is there including the salary, job sectors, latest recruitment stats, quality of students for Malaysia.

Everything is online and you are free to go to their centre in Shah Alam. You are also free to call up MIT directly in the US. I did that and everything has tallied well. Yet im sure you wont because you already know that an error has been made on your part.

Sometimes its alright to admit mistakes. Learn to practice 'intellectual humility'.

The lecturers are direct from MIT. The course slides and content is direct from MIT USA. The content is standard in MIT USA and across the 4 centres worldwide. How can the facilities be the same when they are thousands of miles apart??? 

This is the CEO of MISI Malaysia and he himself teaches 2 subjects on the program here in Malaysia: I challenge you to contact him and raise all these blind statements of yours. But i know you wont cuz deep down you know that uve been proven wrong.
http://scm.mit.edu/bio/mahender-singh

If ure not sure about the course, then make sure. Do your research and get the facts. Start backing up your statements with proof instead of just blindly blowing hot air.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/6/prweb8535723.htm

Yes all graduates from this program are MIT Alumni and they get FULL BENEFITS. Every single one of the teaching staff are from MIT USA. I dare you to contact MIT direct and ask. But we all know you wont cuz the result would be quite embarassing for you. Nothing to do with your time. U have alot of time to respond to these posts and u post other crap on other threads and yet u somehow dont have time to spend 10 mins writing to MIT???     

The more u raise issues the more ive made it clear that u are wrong, have been wrong from the start and will continue to be wrong. U cant dwell on it cuz u know that uve been screwed big time by your own junk theories.

In future, check before making statements. The truth can be very painful especially for someone like you with an ego the size of a planet. Its been great conversing with you. Its so much fun to prove a point and have the other party back off cuz he knows darn well he was wrong from the start.

LOL

How do you consider a MISI student as a MIT student when they are at different centres? If the syllabus, teaching staff, program content and the certification is from MIT then why would anyone wanna bother if a MISI student is technically considered the same as a MIT student? Wont matter one bit in the working world.

Anyway, why only ask these 2 questions? Why not bring up all the other mumbo jumbo uve been claiming from the start?

I challenge you to ask the following questions based on statements you made earlier and post the responses here:

1) Is this MISI Masters in Supply Chain program a dud program / conjob because your website gives me the impression that it is.

2) Is the 1 month attachment at MIT Boston just 'main-main' only just like how TARC students go to Sheffield?

3) I believe the qualification is not from MIT but from the local institution no matter what's the form of collaboration given. I believe the cert is from MISI and you cant claim it is from MIT because it is not. Please confirm the accuracy of my statement.

4) Please confirm if the teaching staff for the program are from MIT itself

5) I believe the quality of students for the MISI is subjective. Do you release application success rate? or avg gmat scores? income of student? Please confirm these.

Thats where u are wrong again. Ive already told u the certification is from MIT but you still insist otherwise. I dont need to confirm anything. I know what i know and what i know is 100% correct. Its you who needs to do the confirming but u wont cuz u know that i am right.

P/s werent u the one who said u werent gonna respond anymore? 

Nobody can be misled when the Masters certificate clearly has MIT on it. Also nobody will curse me cuz all my info is legit from MIT and MISI and its available to anybody who asks unlike the 'info' you provided. I dont make up information. I get the info, i do my research and i propagate the info if its legit. You on the other hand, make blind statements first and then realise the hard way that ure wrong but sadly lack the intellectual maturity to admit a fault and move on choosing instead to employ desperate measures of sending 2 ambiguous queries to MISI of which one is meaningless while the other clearly proves your earlier hypothesis wrong.

Ive challenged you intellectually and clarified each and every one of your silly statements. Sadly, until now you have yet to provide a single 'fact' or 'proof' to support any of your statements.

Have the GUTS to email MISI direct AGAIN and post the questions ive listed above if you dare. All these questions originated from your silly statements from the beginning so have the GUTS to stand by your own words and prove me wrong. The onus is on YOU not me.

But we all know that you wont. Typical. 

Read my earlier posts la bro. Stop making a fool out of yourself. I said ive SEEN the cert. Why assume its through an email? Its you who is contradicting my statement so the onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. You have the avenue to do this since u already emailed MISI once so why back off now and hide behind the 'why me' line? COuld it be because you already asked but are too ashamed to admit? 

As for the definition of 'student', isnt that a stupid question u asked? Are u expecting full time students studying at MIT in Boston 14,894km from MISI, KL to be called the same??? 

And why the constant focus on the terminology of a student while remaining silent on the Alumni now? Could it be because you have found out (the hard way) that MISI grads are in fact part of the MIT Alumni as Associate Members?

U really should have taken your own advice and backed off about 4 posts back when you said you would. Im just loving this moment. Im gonna continue to bask in the glory of seeing u like a fish out of water. Desperately trying to salvage some form of pride. 

YAWN! Same old roundabout replies. Its you who clearly has lost the plot altogether. 

If my info isnt good enough for u, then why not take up my earlier challange and email MISI / MIT direct with the list of queries i put up earlier based on what YOU said? Why no action till now? Who's the greater fool now? Typical. 

WALK THE TALK! 

Vague. I'm guessing some race/politics-linked reasons. Thanks anyways.

There are Ivy League b-schools in Singapore? Really? Which ones? I did a quick google search and none of the Ivies have b-schools in Singapore.

Its actually Singapore.

I also heard that Disney and Six Flags might be opening theme parks in Johor.

But I would seriously be happy if any of the top schools have a campus in Malaysia.

Hi all,

I am keen to enrol myself for MBA course - part-time. I am from Johor, currently working and my weekends currently fall on Friday and Saturday, as such I believe I will be having issue to attend courses during the weekends. Any suggestion which school may be suitable for my current situation?

Please advise. Thank you.