QUOTE(lightwerker @ Aug 30 2015, 12:49 AM)
Always use the World Rankings as your guide. Not 'popular' rankings and surely not from that website.Business MBA, Where's best to study MBA in Malaysia?
Business MBA, Where's best to study MBA in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Aug 30 2015, 12:49 AM) Always use the World Rankings as your guide. Not 'popular' rankings and surely not from that website. |
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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Aug 28 2015, 02:25 AM) why leh? really so expensie mer? if want do MBA sure do the best right? if cheap cheap MBA then maybe the value is not that significant rite?QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 28 2015, 08:56 AM) It is Executive MBA. it is assignment and business case based, not much on attending lectures |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Aug 30 2015, 11:45 PM) It is Executive MBA. it is assignment and business case based, not much on attending lectures The Sunway - Lancaster program is a MBA program not an Exec MBA. The closest credible Exec MBA program is INSEAD EMBA in Singapore. |
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Aug 31 2015, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:54 AM) The Sunway - Lancaster program is a MBA program not an Exec MBA. The closest credible Exec MBA program is INSEAD EMBA in Singapore. actually what's the difference?in my offer letter it says Executive MBA. i thought EMBA is lower class than MBA? But i cannot afford MBA because i cant take 2 yrs off... have a lot commitment need to continue working |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Aug 30 2015, 11:45 PM) why leh? really so expensie mer? if want do MBA sure do the best right? if cheap cheap MBA then maybe the value is not that significant rite? Yup... Of course expensive MBA is for those CEOs, Managing Directors, or top management level people haha.. So u will meet more of those people.. Imagine u attend segi MBA most of them are youngsters It is Executive MBA. it is assignment and business case based, not much on attending lectures |
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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Aug 31 2015, 05:46 PM) Yup... Of course expensive MBA is for those CEOs, Managing Directors, or top management level people haha.. So u will meet more of those people.. Imagine u attend segi MBA most of them are youngsters Wow COOL !imagine ur coursemate is a CEO, and u can jokingly ask him hire u as a Manager !! |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Aug 31 2015, 03:08 PM) actually what's the difference? Its not about which is higher or lower class. in my offer letter it says Executive MBA. i thought EMBA is lower class than MBA? But i cannot afford MBA because i cant take 2 yrs off... have a lot commitment need to continue working Key differences are as what I posted earlier: http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time Ive attached the INSEAD MBA brochure and the INSEAD Executive MBA Student Profile. Ull get to see how a top tier business school / MBA program looks like. Fyi, INSEAD is ranked No 4 in the world after Harvard, London Business School & Wharton but higher than MIT (8th), Cambridge (13th), Yale (17th), Oxford (22nd) and NUS Singapore (31st). This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 1 2015, 10:50 AM Attached File(s)
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 1 2015, 08:42 AM) Its not about which is higher or lower class. umm i dont see your point. what's the difference if EMBA or MBA?Key differences are as what I posted earlier: http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time Ive attached the INSEAD MBA brochure and the INSEAD Executive MBA Student Profile. Ull get to see how a top tier business school / MBA program looks like. Fyi, INSEAD is ranked No 4 in the world after Harvard, London Business School & Wharton but higher than MIT (8th), Cambridge (13th), Yale (17th), Oxford (22nd) and NUS Singapore (31st). |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Sep 1 2015, 09:21 PM) EMBA is generally an part time MBA course (i.e. only weekend classes probably every fortnightly) for existing working professionals while the MBA is practically a full time course which has classes during the weekday.The main difference is the length and target audience. And practically you are expecting to meet a CEO and jokingly ask him to hire you as a manager, I don't think you are suited for the MBA course as well since you and the CEO are supposed to be equals and should be learning from one another instead of you leeching off from someone else. |
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QUOTE(YH90 @ Sep 1 2015, 10:04 PM) EMBA is generally an part time MBA course (i.e. only weekend classes probably every fortnightly) for existing working professionals while the MBA is practically a full time course which has classes during the weekday. the lancaster emba is part time class so i guess is emba?The main difference is the length and target audience. And practically you are expecting to meet a CEO and jokingly ask him to hire you as a manager, I don't think you are suited for the MBA course as well since you and the CEO are supposed to be equals and should be learning from one another instead of you leeching off from someone else. |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Sep 1 2015, 10:24 PM) the lancaster emba is part time class so i guess is emba? EMBA is always part time as you need to be working in order to enrich the class with practical discussions. MBA can be part time or full time. And I think the link below clearly spells out the difference between EMBA and MBA's. Ive posted it 3 times now. How can you still not understand? http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 2 2015, 12:16 AM) EMBA is always part time as you need to be working in order to enrich the class with practical discussions. MBA can be part time or full time. cybermaster98, is it not that he does not understand it, but rather he expects to be spoonfed. And I think the link below clearly spells out the difference between EMBA and MBA's. Ive posted it 3 times now. How can you still not understand? http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time To be very honest, if you can't even spend the time to do your own research to have a stance / opinion of what you know, I don't think you can go very far. |
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QUOTE(YH90 @ Sep 2 2015, 09:14 AM) cybermaster98, is it not that he does not understand it, but rather he expects to be spoonfed. hmm OK.To be very honest, if you can't even spend the time to do your own research to have a stance / opinion of what you know, I don't think you can go very far. but malaysia got any eMBA program by prestigious uni? |
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QUOTE(OxDoC @ Sep 3 2015, 10:10 PM) hmm OK. As mentioned before a number of times, the 2 best MBA programs in Malaysia (based on world rankings) currently is Lancaster and Strathclyde. Both aren't EMBA.but malaysia got any eMBA program by prestigious uni? |
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Hi everyone,
I've followed the thread for a while now. I would like to seek some advice regarding my future here. I just graduated from pharmacy course this August and currently waiting for government's call for placement in the hospital to undergo my Provisionally Registered Pharmacist (PRP) training. Unfortunately, due to the saturation of pharmacy graduates in our country, it will take around 9-12 months before we can actually start our training. I am a highly ambitious person and I always try my best to achieve my goals. It has been my target for a while now that I wanted to get a MBA after my pharmacy degree for myself and then work at a prestigious pharmaceutical company. Initially, I planned to take MBA full time only after 2 years of my PRP training. But right now since I'm having so much of free time myself due to waiting for government's call for placement, I'm thinking of doing MBA right away. I've done some research myself, institutions which offer MBA program that do not need any working experience in our country now are UPM and UKM. Now, you will say I do not have any working experience, can I really benefit from having MBA degree so early? For your information, during the last two years pursuing my degree, I have worked tirelessly as a freelance part timer almost every weekend. I have done various kinds of jobs which require different sets of skills and I am not afraid to challenge myself and push myself to the limit. I know the working experience that I have right now does not even remotely close in comparing to the 'relevant' working experience that most institutions need in pursuing their MBA program, but I do hope it does illustrate my determination to excel in my field in the future. I'm 24 years old now and I do not wish to use one full year to stop working and just study for MBA. To me, it is gonna be a stagnation if I want to flourish in my future career. If I have the chance to do my MBA right now, I'm ready to take it. I know there is a lot of debate about which school offers the best MBA program in the country, but currently there are only UPM and UKM that will deem myself as eligible for their MBA programs, do you guys think I should go for it? Thank you all very much for reading my lengthy post. And I really appreciate any insights that you all can offer me. |
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QUOTE(tryhardboy @ Sep 15 2015, 06:22 PM) Hi everyone, Hi thereI've followed the thread for a while now. I would like to seek some advice regarding my future here. I just graduated from pharmacy course this August and currently waiting for government's call for placement in the hospital to undergo my Provisionally Registered Pharmacist (PRP) training. Unfortunately, due to the saturation of pharmacy graduates in our country, it will take around 9-12 months before we can actually start our training. I am a highly ambitious person and I always try my best to achieve my goals. It has been my target for a while now that I wanted to get a MBA after my pharmacy degree for myself and then work at a prestigious pharmaceutical company. Initially, I planned to take MBA full time only after 2 years of my PRP training. But right now since I'm having so much of free time myself due to waiting for government's call for placement, I'm thinking of doing MBA right away. I've done some research myself, institutions which offer MBA program that do not need any working experience in our country now are UPM and UKM. Now, you will say I do not have any working experience, can I really benefit from having MBA degree so early? For your information, during the last two years pursuing my degree, I have worked tirelessly as a freelance part timer almost every weekend. I have done various kinds of jobs which require different sets of skills and I am not afraid to challenge myself and push myself to the limit. I know the working experience that I have right now does not even remotely close in comparing to the 'relevant' working experience that most institutions need in pursuing their MBA program, but I do hope it does illustrate my determination to excel in my field in the future. I'm 24 years old now and I do not wish to use one full year to stop working and just study for MBA. To me, it is gonna be a stagnation if I want to flourish in my future career. If I have the chance to do my MBA right now, I'm ready to take it. I know there is a lot of debate about which school offers the best MBA program in the country, but currently there are only UPM and UKM that will deem myself as eligible for their MBA programs, do you guys think I should go for it? Thank you all very much for reading my lengthy post. And I really appreciate any insights that you all can offer me. First and foremost, congratulations to you on your graduation! I would like to share my 2cents, being in the industry myself (not selling anything here though, don't worry!) Many MBA prospects have asked the same question you're asking, why does an MBA require a certain number of work experience? So let me share what I have observed around. 1. Most reputable MBA (and almost all European MBA), requires this. If you check from the FT Global MBA ranking, go through some of the university's requirement, you can see that work experience is part of it. So there must be a valid reason for this. Better still, check on triple accredited business schools, and compare the requirements with non accredited business schools, you will learn the difference. 2. Studying for an MBA is totally a different experience from your undergraduate level. It requires you to be able to match the theory you learnt to the practical aspect in your career. Therefore having some managerial experience is essential for you to relate to what is being taught. 3. You'll be going through a number of case studies based on real situations. Having past experience in such situation will benefit you (and your group members) more. 4. All of the students in reputable MBA programmes has at least 3 years managerial work experience, it doesn't make any sense to have someone without any work experience in the group as this person may not be able to contribute to the discussions and assignments. You can't be riding on the others without sharing some experience of your own. Here's some articles you can read, related to your question: http://www.find-mba.com/mba-blog/2009/10/3...ork_experience/ https://whichmba.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/a...ork-experience/ And personally, I have been at the stage where you are right now, recently graduated and eager to learn something. I did my research on the MBA programmes available and finally decided that I will wait for few more years before embarking into one. When you have the plan for an MBA, don't do it for the title. You might as well make sure that it is worth investing. Make sure that the quality is assured. I believe you will be a very good candidate for an MBA programme when the time comes Cheers & happy Malaysia day! P/S: you don't need to quit your work for a year to study for an MBA. There are plenty of part time MBA programmes around that you can check, some offer weekend classes, others are weekdays. Again, make sure that it is globally recognized (having triple accreditation is most preferred) and world ranked (at least listed in FT Global MBA ranking). Regards, Edahani Strathclyde MBA Malaysia |
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QUOTE(edahani @ Sep 15 2015, 07:21 PM) Hi there Hi, Edahani. Thank you very much for your reply. First and foremost, congratulations to you on your graduation! I would like to share my 2cents, being in the industry myself (not selling anything here though, don't worry!) Many MBA prospects have asked the same question you're asking, why does an MBA require a certain number of work experience? So let me share what I have observed around. 1. Most reputable MBA (and almost all European MBA), requires this. If you check from the FT Global MBA ranking, go through some of the university's requirement, you can see that work experience is part of it. So there must be a valid reason for this. Better still, check on triple accredited business schools, and compare the requirements with non accredited business schools, you will learn the difference. 2. Studying for an MBA is totally a different experience from your undergraduate level. It requires you to be able to match the theory you learnt to the practical aspect in your career. Therefore having some managerial experience is essential for you to relate to what is being taught. 3. You'll be going through a number of case studies based on real situations. Having past experience in such situation will benefit you (and your group members) more. 4. All of the students in reputable MBA programmes has at least 3 years managerial work experience, it doesn't make any sense to have someone without any work experience in the group as this person may not be able to contribute to the discussions and assignments. You can't be riding on the others without sharing some experience of your own. Here's some articles you can read, related to your question: http://www.find-mba.com/mba-blog/2009/10/3...ork_experience/ https://whichmba.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/a...ork-experience/ And personally, I have been at the stage where you are right now, recently graduated and eager to learn something. I did my research on the MBA programmes available and finally decided that I will wait for few more years before embarking into one. When you have the plan for an MBA, don't do it for the title. You might as well make sure that it is worth investing. Make sure that the quality is assured. I believe you will be a very good candidate for an MBA programme when the time comes Cheers & happy Malaysia day! P/S: you don't need to quit your work for a year to study for an MBA. There are plenty of part time MBA programmes around that you can check, some offer weekend classes, others are weekdays. Again, make sure that it is globally recognized (having triple accreditation is most preferred) and world ranked (at least listed in FT Global MBA ranking). Regards, Edahani Strathclyde MBA Malaysia Your post did enlighten me on what I feel about the MBA. I think I'll just wait for a couple more years and grant my much needed working experience before considering MBA again. It is always good to know that there has been someone who had been in my position before and truly understands what I feel right now. So I really can't thank you enough for stepping out here! However, the notion of not able doing anything right now that will benefits my future career prospect is unsettling. Being in my position before, do you think is there anything I can do (short courses/certs, etc) right now to develop and improve myself while waiting for my job's placement? What had you eventually did when you were in my position last time if you do not mind me asking? Thank you! |
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QUOTE(tryhardboy @ Sep 15 2015, 06:22 PM) Hi everyone, Since you quote the MBA, indicating you have an interest in venturing into management / business, can look at the following:I've followed the thread for a while now. I would like to seek some advice regarding my future here. I just graduated from pharmacy course this August and currently waiting for government's call for placement in the hospital to undergo my Provisionally Registered Pharmacist (PRP) training. Unfortunately, due to the saturation of pharmacy graduates in our country, it will take around 9-12 months before we can actually start our training. I am a highly ambitious person and I always try my best to achieve my goals. It has been my target for a while now that I wanted to get a MBA after my pharmacy degree for myself and then work at a prestigious pharmaceutical company. Initially, I planned to take MBA full time only after 2 years of my PRP training. But right now since I'm having so much of free time myself due to waiting for government's call for placement, I'm thinking of doing MBA right away. I've done some research myself, institutions which offer MBA program that do not need any working experience in our country now are UPM and UKM. Now, you will say I do not have any working experience, can I really benefit from having MBA degree so early? For your information, during the last two years pursuing my degree, I have worked tirelessly as a freelance part timer almost every weekend. I have done various kinds of jobs which require different sets of skills and I am not afraid to challenge myself and push myself to the limit. I know the working experience that I have right now does not even remotely close in comparing to the 'relevant' working experience that most institutions need in pursuing their MBA program, but I do hope it does illustrate my determination to excel in my field in the future. I'm 24 years old now and I do not wish to use one full year to stop working and just study for MBA. To me, it is gonna be a stagnation if I want to flourish in my future career. If I have the chance to do my MBA right now, I'm ready to take it. I know there is a lot of debate about which school offers the best MBA program in the country, but currently there are only UPM and UKM that will deem myself as eligible for their MBA programs, do you guys think I should go for it? Thank you all very much for reading my lengthy post. And I really appreciate any insights that you all can offer me. http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Study/Postgra...siness-MSc.aspx Intake is in September, so call today and they might be able to slot you in. The whole programme should be at least 60% if not more of what you would learn theoretically in the MBA. Of course, minus the experience and higher-level networking; more academic. |
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