is depend how u seek the job.....if u enter MMC company the pay will be different....my fren able to get 4k fresh MBA grad with no working experience...but me onli 2.5k..... is all how u look for the job and how u carry urself during the interview...if u get Master qualification try applied at intel, microsoft, agilent or other MMC company,,thier pay quite high...

Pai, do you know the answer to the above?

rockzerox,
I'm of the opinion that a person's salary is justified based on his responsibilities and commitment level at work. You may be a fresh MBA grad with 2 years of working experience (which btw, is rather minimal work experience if u asked me) who starts of earning RM2.3k and within the next 6 months, if your performance shows you're capable of handling bigger tasks and responsibilities, your salary will then be automatically adjusted upwards.

Another problem with 'fresh' MBA holders today think just because they've got an MBA in hand, they're better than their colleagues with 15 years of experience. Initially, there's still lots to learn from them so don't see urself as someone superior to them

nope.

too pricey for me, so never othered asking further.

oic, i thot u knew coz u said it was the best MBA to take in Malaysia...

coz, if the degree awarded is not the same and it's not taught by the original uni staff, then the original uni's ranking and accolades are not relevant at all. it will end up a Sunway degree, which is worth little.

same like Malaysia's Nottingham Uni?

Correct me if im wrong, the staff are mostly malaysian right? But they use Nottingham UK's achievement in their ads.

dats wat u get with most 3+0 programmes anyway... u get local lecturers teaching the same curiculla as those taught overseas... however their quality is monitored to ensure that they r in accordance wit the exact programme offered overseas...
however at the end of the day, the cert counts for nothing if u dun know how to implement wat u've learnt into the workplace...
i think i read sumwhere dat the manchester uni mba offered in sunway is a distant learning programme so shldn't the cert given be the same as those from the uk?

allow me to correct you. it is run entirely by Nottingham staff, regardless if it's hired locally or seconded from UK (yes, some are). the course syllabus and teaching is the same, and the marking is also done a 2nd time by UK.

the degree awarded is identical to the UK because it is not a joint program with any local college or company, it is just another Nottingham campus located in Malaysia, so what's wrong with using Nottingham Uni's credentials in their ads?

you can refer here for more info:
http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com/2005...m-malaysia.html

or check the Nottingham uni thread in Lowyat.net , in fact a pharmacy student in the Malaysian campus was top student last year, beating those in the UK campus.

dude, u from Nottingham Uni?

Would it not be easier for those wanting to pursue the Manchester MBA just give them a call to get information? Also, even for those who's not interested, if you wanna know, just call Sunway and disturb them...

I'll give them a call if I wasn't sooOo bz at work - then again, I wonder, would their first question to me be similar to something like "the MBA costs RM90k (or whatever that figure is)"..... in other words, If u can't afford it, don't waste our time answering ur question... I got that before in the past!

r u from Manchester/Sunway Uni just because u said it's the best? no right?

Excuse my language but that's that's the most f***ed up attitude I've heard of from a place, and if it were from Nottingham/Manchester/etc I would complain to the management and make sure it gets noticed. Their job is to answer the phone so do their jobs properly already. Aside from certain demographics, anyone and everyone could be a potential customer.

It's sad but I see this everywhere in Malaysia. Do we have a caste system now that we have to look down on other people?

Just venting...

tinkerbel just said IF la... but IF they reply that way, it may be because they know from experience most ppl will be put off by the cost and won't pursue any further. no point talking for hours then only say the cost and immediately lose the prospect after that.

tishaban,
You sound so worked up! And that didn't even happen to you but well, truth is what I related above did really happen, though it wasn't with the Manchester MBA. About 7 years ago when I was looking to pursue my MBA, I called up a local institution who was handling one of the more recognised UK MBA only to be told off that if I didn't have RM45k, there was no point in speaking to them.

Admittedly, I felt it was totally uncalled for and unprofessional but ah well, life is such; even for educated people. In fact, about a year and a half ago I walked into Hour Glass to buy my a gift for mom and was looking at some watches only to be snubbed off by the store manager. It was only because his assistant gave me great service I bought the watch from them - and I stipulated to ensure the sales commission went to everyone else in the shop but the store manager himself *grins* He was lucky I was in a good mood otherwise I would've written an official complaint letter straight to HQ

elmofudd,
Maybe I'll call Sunway and check and then I'll let u people know IF the same thing happened again

Haha, I guess I just love to complain when I know I'm within my rights. And the sort of attitude you mentioned is one of my favorites. You don't have to get angry about it, just make sure you talk to right people. For example I got a free sushi buffet dinner at Putrajaya Marriot last Saturday night after complaining to the manager about some stuff

tishaban,
I will make noise when it's necessary. And when I do make noise, it can become quite a big deal *grins* Guess we're pretty similar in some ways huh?

am obviously not. Thought since u knew in depth regarding Nott's MBA program, maybe u were/still doin' ur MBA in Notts.

well, my mistake for assuming its probaly the best MBA offered in M'sia due to MBS's current MBA ranking and the fee's charged .

Which brings us back to the question, how do you know which MBA program offer the best learning program & business exposure(practicality) locally? Am thinking of doin' my MBA but undecided on whether should I go for Local Uni's or joint program with overseas uni's under colleges(Sunway or Segi)?

This post has been edited by Pai: Feb 13 2007, 01:19 AM

The quality of their facilitators and course structure should be able to give you a rough idea... Also, good to you may mean lousy to others hence at the end of the day it really boils down to how and what you're going to learn throughout the duration of your course

how to determine the quality of their respective facilitators b4 u take on the program?

Good question. Do places allow you to audit a course? Sit in a few classes maybe to see the quality of their classes?