So back to one question someone asked earlier. How much more money can you make with an MBA in Malaysia? Is it realistic to expect an ROI within 1 year of paying RM100+k for an MBA from an above average school or is working outside Malaysia the only realistic way of doing this?

I would just love to make more money (among other things of course)

there's an executive in my company who graduated with a MBA fr UPM.
her English is atrocious and her quality of work left much to desire.
Quality? i dun tink so.

huh...she buy the MBA izzit??
how come so terrible?MBA holder with poor skills???
either it is UPM lower standard??

one more question to ask - local uni MBA is better or priv uni MBA better?I mean in terms of quality and standard

u cant evaluate the quality of an MBA graduate solely from the School he/she studied in... its just like a degree.. sure u can be an Imperial grad but if ur unable to perform in ur work, u'll be regarded lower then say a local uni grad who puts in 100% hard work and initiative

Dun say like that. UPM's MBA is quite good and is quite established as well.

personal thought or backed with solid evidence or recognition?

my work-place got a new gurl with UPM MBA, dunno bout her quality of work nor attitude, but at 23, im sure she never had a relevant working exp prior undertaking her MBA.

any decent MBA course would require at least 2 years working exp.

dats y ppl nowadays tend to rush their MBA's right after obtaining their degrees... they think, "Hey, why dont I study for my masters right after getting my degree? That way I can earn a hell lot more when I come out to work!"... they ignore the fact that working exp is significant in being able to understand and implement whatever has been learnt whilst working into the coursework etc...
i dun plan to get my mba immediately after my degree.. at least gain a couple or more years of workplace exposure

I'm a soon-to-grad chemical engineering student here in UTM. I was wondering, should i work immediately or pursue my studies in MBA (Master in Business Administration)? I hope to get good advices from u all, esp those who are taking this now...What actually is MBA and how's it?

There's another thread on MBAs here, check out that discussion.

Personally I think taking an MBA with less than 3-5 years of job experience is pointless. Most business schools won't even take you in if you don't have enough job experience.

Oh, i just saw the thread. Thanks. Will try to learn more bout it.

good MBA programs want a diverse of cultures and work experiences in their students so that the learning experience is richer. so i agree with the suggestion to get work experience before doing your MBA. at least you will have something to share with the class during discussions and projects. no one wants a "theory-based" argument all the time.

in the program i did, the class actually felt that those who didn't have work experience were considerably myopic in their views.

ihawk98,
I'm sure not *all* students with insufficient working experience were considered 'myopic' in their views... perhaps majority of them but surely there are a handful who were able to contribute?

agree as long as they have some work experience. i think it is good for people to work in between their undergrad and MBA years. it really helps both the experience of your fellow MBAs and yourself when you have stuff to share from your previous experience.

try not to go straight from undergrad to MBA immediately...that's all.

How about people who have no undergrad degrees but go straight for their MBAs?

this is a good one. if the person went through "the school of hard knocks" (meaning they've got long work experience after high school or diploma etc) and have loads of work experience to share, i would think they would be welcomed in a program once they qualify.

The point here is that it is important be able to share your work experience and knowledge accumulated through the years with other classmates. To share is to care, to care is to teach and to teach is to learn

Most universities welcome those without degrees but graduate from school of hard knocks. Most universities will require 5-10 years work experience at managerial level, plus a written essay to accept them into the MBA.

The fresh grads will have tonnes to learn from these people.

Harvard accepts fresh grads with no experience into their MBA programme.

But i personally think that it's best to get a job and work for the next 3-5 years before one does his or her MBA.

I only begin to appreciate the theories which i learnt in my MBA 5 years ago....recently! Phrases like leadership, trust and empowerment, which are MBA buzzwords only takes a true meaning today...after 13 years on the job.

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This post has been edited by ky_khor: Apr 14 2010, 11:16 AM

ky_khor,
You shouldn't find it difficult to get into an MBA course with working experience. Obviously if one has a minimum of 3 years at Middle Management, he shouldn't have problems getting into an MBA.


PS: 3 years work experience at Middle Management, would translate to probably an estimated of total 5-6 years of work experience.