Hello everyone,

As my viva mileage already reaching 170km, i will need to change my timing belt soon. Perhaps before it reach 180km.
So i did a survey on the price including labour to change the timing belt.

First shop quote me rm160 + rm80 (labour). He said it is original produa belt.

Second shop quote me rm250 + rm100 (labour). He said it is original perodua belt.

Third shop quote me rm350 in total. He said original perodua belt. He said expensive because all change like bearing.

Why the price variance is too big?

What is the normal price for standard original viva timing belt?

And normally when we change timing belt, it comes together with bearing all is it?

Thanks.

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spoke to perodua sc ,

they quoted rm140+ for the timing belt, and around RM50 for alternator + power stereng + aircond belt, labour charge rm120
in total around rm300++ but not exceeding rm350
fair enough, at least peace of mind because confirm it is original

so i guess i will go to perodua sc for this.

This post has been edited by mt24: Dec 7 2015, 03:27 PM

why not give a call to perodua centre ?

Thank you for suggestions. I would like to compare if outside price better than perodua center itself where most of the time perodua tend to cekik darah everyone.

all authorized SC should have standard price across.....no matter which SC u go

advantages of going SC is....you always get genuine part and not mouth promised by mech bawah pokok that claim is a genuine part

You got the point there.
If bawah pokok price almost the same with sc why not i go sc by myself right?

Price difference depends on how much stuff you change, AFAIK, there is little to no standard at all when come to timing belt kit replacement.

Some argue the water pump should also be change, some says other wise.

Etc etc etc thus the price difference

Viva is using timing belt or timing chain? I thought it is timing chain

AFAIK, viva runs on belts

Some people change just belt but standard service would be timing belt, bearing, oil seals. If not change bearing, maybe current bearing will wear out before new belt like make noise. Bearing should not be too expensive.

Here is the kit price (belt, bearing, seals)
http://kereta.info/senarai-harga-timing-be...ton-dan-produa/

Coz the price quote u listed fron 3 outside mech got hugh differences
To be safe...go back sc and i dont think it will cost you a fortune replacing it at sc

Coz viva is the cheapest car around and parts should be cheap too

Hmmm....maybe some mech wanted to potong
Water pump is another thing

Means when we buying full set timing belt kit we got bearing and oil seals as well?

Yes. If you go to buy personally at spare part shop also it will be like that in the picture. Workshop will mark up and also charge labor. I normally just buy the part at the shop and pay just for labor cost at workshop

interesting.
because one shop that quote with 300++ price said the price expensive because not only timing belt they change, they include bearing and oil seal in the price as well.
guess i will give a call to produa sc to check out how much they selling the set actually.

Opss picture not in previous link. Like this
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I think Kancil Kenari Viva 850cc 1000cc all the same. Spare part shop will ask if you want non-original or original if they are made. Normally they do not cheat, unless they themselves were conned by supplier. So, buy from known reputable shop

That I can confirm bulls .... It is not that expensive. I think just RM100++ (Malaysia made). Spare part shop also sell original Japan made or Malaysia made. You can ask

havent change water pump at all after owning this viva for 8 years.
should i change together as well?
ask workshop some said yes, some said let see, some said no need still elok.

Something that you will not have to change until it is faulty Like leakage or engine temp high due to pump not operating properly (very unlikely I believe). I drove Viva for 8 years and never has it change. Just traded it for Axia because the engine mounting need change and I do not want to hold on to Viva because no more in production. I was assuming price drop and harder spare part.

i think viva early generation build is quite tough
havent had serious problem so far like what u mentioned.
so will keep it there until broken.

wait2......

water pump does not need to change la

water pump is another parts of it....which is not affected when change timing belt

I think the timing belt also rotate the water pump like many car. It is engine belt driven. Water pump that is electrically operated probably in race car only since they need all the engine power to rotate tires

Normally water pump is changed when there is coolant or water leakage sign through the pump

Ya....but dont need to change together both are different part

If your car still under warranty then better go to perodua service center. Later u kena tipu by bengkel biasa then baru menyesal. Kalau dah habis warranty is different story.

Demmit.
Why the shop said senang tukar sekali harung... Nanti kena bukak balik tempat yang sama

8 years already. Its been 5 years i service car outside. But this is first time change belt outside.

if its 8years

would recommend you change

timing belt
v-belt
water pump
radiator hose ( if got extra budget )
engine mounting ( i believe it's vibrating kao kao already )

What is
Vbelt
Radiator hose
Engine mounting - is it what some people call tepek?

As darkdelivery mention, change those items. When your coolant leaks out unexpectedly two things can happen, either you realize the engine character starts to change or you dont realize and you end up overheating the engine. An overheated engine could result in a very expensive repair if you end up blowing a headgasket and or wraping the engine head. that would set u back lot more $$$. If ur car is 8 yrs old and havent change the water pump and radiator hoses i suggest you do it and flush the cooling system too. Prevention is better then cure. All the best..

v belt means those aircon belt, alternator belt, water pump belt.

i forgotten if viva is 3 in 1 belt.

i duno what tepek is.

radiator hose, means the top n bottom hose connecting radiator ( cooler ) to the engine body.

Good thread. I'm first time changing viva timing belt too, this help me a lot..

Best is buy the part from workshop and take to mechanic. If you are in Klang Valley I can recommend good mechanics and part shops.

Viva has a tough engine and you only need to service those 'sacrificial' items (bearings, belts, mounting etc).

Water pump no need to change. My Kelisa of 15 years still haven't change water pump. It uses a steel impeller directly driven by the belt so it's very unlikely to fail. Some other manufacturers use plastic impellers so ppl sometimes recommend you change it. Daihatsu doesn't have this issue.

As long as you keep an eye on the car, most hoses only need to change if leaking.

8 years is a good time to change mounting (engine and gearbox) but bear in mind both parts and labour is expensive. Changing them will reduce vibration and improve handling and engine response. In the long-term it also reduces stress to your subframe.

Please recommend me a good mechanic around Klang Valley please. Thanks in advance.

Never change mounting at all. But no vibrations feels so far.
Actually how long the original mounting can stand before it requires to change?

ignore the lifespan.... change when the car vibrates, simple

For spare part I usually go to Bay Brothers in PJ., near Hilton. They are quite big and supply to many foreman. Then if you go to the back of the shop there is a row of mechanics who only do labour, so you definitely save there. They look kinda unprofessional but they have been servicing taxis and other high mileage vehicles for ages already. For this reason they are quite reasonably priced and very efficient. Have sent newer cars there for complex jobs with no issues.
Been going there for close to 20 years with no complaints so far.