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post Nov 30 2015, 11:01 PM, updated 11y ago

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Hi guys, just need your advice on how you guys gym/workout? do you guys started off with personal trainer? I'm a newbie and skinny nerdy kind.. just sign up a membership in celebrity fitness (all club), hoping to gain some mass but when I went there I am totally lost on how to use those machine and felt tension around the buff guys (feel like I occupy their space/machine).. I know people always say go youtube learn, but some said youtube is useless (marketing gimmick).. confused now.. Anyone goes to CF here? or can give any advice? icon_question.gif (I know I sound like a pussy, but oh well.. sweat.gif )

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post Nov 30 2015, 11:11 PM

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you can start with a personal trainer, although bear in mind 3 promotional sessions are not enough at all. need at least tenths of session which costs sum of money.
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post Nov 30 2015, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(prophecus @ Nov 30 2015, 11:11 PM)
you can start with a personal trainer, although bear in mind 3 promotional sessions are not enough at all. need at least tenths of session which costs sum of money.
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They only gave me one PT session which is only 45minute and more towards push selling.. and the price is too expensive espeacially when I am still a student..
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post Nov 30 2015, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Nov 30 2015, 11:45 PM)
They only gave me one PT session which is only 45minute and more  towards push selling.. and the price is too expensive espeacially when I am still a student..
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you can start by reading pinned thread in this Bodybuilding & Strength Training section? Should have some thread pinned for beginners there.
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post Dec 1 2015, 12:30 AM

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at the end of day those PT in cf they only care about their sales lol and just follow the same process and repeat until they found new client..
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post Dec 1 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Dec 1 2015, 12:30 AM)
at the end of day those PT in cf they only care about their sales lol and just follow the same process and repeat until they found new client..
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totally agreed with what you said.. they tend to talk more then they teach most of the time..
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post Dec 1 2015, 12:53 PM

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Beware those commercial PT will teach you half squat, 3" bench press and no deadlift cause it is dangerous.
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:11 PM

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I personally learn from youtube. Just trial and error. Start with lighter weights so you dont hurt yourself easily.

I only went through the useless 3 session PT full of crap. Nothing much learnt from those sessions.

Takes time to learn
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 1 2015, 01:11 PM)
I personally learn from youtube. Just trial and error. Start with lighter weights so you dont hurt yourself easily.

I only went through the useless 3 session PT full of crap. Nothing much learnt from those sessions.

Takes time to learn
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Youtube FTW! flex.gif
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:12 PM)
Youtube FTW!  flex.gif
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Learn from body aches and injuries.
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 1 2015, 01:13 PM)
Learn from body aches and injuries.
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shakehead.gif Not to injuries. That means you push yourself too hard.
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:19 PM)
shakehead.gif Not to injuries. That means you push yourself too hard.
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how do you differentiate injury and ache? some say having ache is good as body building muscle and some say is bad... rclxub.gif
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:19 PM)
shakehead.gif Not to injuries. That means you push yourself too hard.
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not serious injuries la. good form and proper way to do some exercise. Learn from mistakes thats what I meant.
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:23 PM)
how do you differentiate injury and ache? some say having ache is good as body building muscle and some say is bad...  rclxub.gif
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I am no expert but to me, lets say if you are working out your chest muscles, but at the end of the day you are feeling the soreness from your biceps and triceps...means you are doing it wrongly....

Injuries normally last longer than soreness... like unable to extend your forearm...unable to lift the shoulders up....joint issues... or spine injury....etc....

Keep in mind that I am also new to the lifting game.

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post Dec 1 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Dec 1 2015, 12:51 AM)
you can start by reading pinned thread in this Bodybuilding & Strength Training section? Should have some thread pinned for beginners there.
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doesn't seem to have any pinned threads for Newbie/pure beginners. or maybe i'm reading the wrong things
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Wira Hikari @ Dec 1 2015, 01:48 PM)
doesn't seem to have any pinned threads for Newbie/pure beginners. or maybe i'm reading the wrong things
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Maybe there werent any thread SPECIFICALLY titled for beginners, but some of them really worth to read for good start.

Got one thread discussed on whey protein also. I think it is good for beginners to read on how to carefully choose your whey protein for your supplement to get best result, to avoid being cheated, have awareness about what they put in our supplement, etc etc.
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:00 PM

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learn from you tube ...
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:03 PM

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Bodybuilding.com and muscleandfitness.com has alot of guides for beginners
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:55 PM)
Maybe there werent any thread SPECIFICALLY titled for beginners, but some of them really worth to read for good start.

Got one thread discussed on whey protein also. I think it is good for beginners to read on how to carefully choose your whey protein for your supplement to get best result, to avoid being cheated, have awareness about what they put in our supplement, etc etc.
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Oh really? That will definetely be useful for me. Thanks foe the info! I tried drinking whey protein and i dint gain any weight... feel cheated lol....
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Dec 1 2015, 12:53 PM)
Beware those commercial PT will teach you half squat, 3" bench press and no deadlift cause it is dangerous.
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Few months ago a friend of mine bring me train at CF since his friend is a PT..... Then later when i do squat he suddenly corrects me lol bla bla bla and the moment i facepalm later he do chest exercises.....

The truth is that he doesn't even lift and he doesn't even work his calves lol.....

QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 1 2015, 01:11 PM)
I personally learn from youtube. Just trial and error. Start with lighter weights so you dont hurt yourself easily.

I only went through the useless 3 session PT full of crap. Nothing much learnt from those sessions.

Takes time to learn
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Bro u should already know that PT they just guide u lol they didn't know what may works for him might be different for u lol....

For example the way you do squat might be different. I know those PT would always correct one since they got more experience....
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:48 PM)
Few months ago a friend of mine bring me train at CF since his friend is a PT..... Then later when i do squat he suddenly corrects me lol bla bla bla and the moment i facepalm later he do chest exercises.....

The truth is that he doesn't even lift and he doesn't even work his calves lol.....
Bro u should already know that PT they just guide u lol they didn't know what may works for him might be different for u lol....

For example the way you do squat might be different. I know those PT would always correct one since they got more experience....
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Hey, sorry im a newbie here.. i always here the term squat.. but what ir really is? Is it hard to do alone ?
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hey, sorry im a newbie here.. i always here the term squat.. but what ir really is? Is it hard to do alone ?
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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 1 2015, 04:53 PM)
Hey, sorry im a newbie here.. i always here the term squat.. but what ir really is? Is it hard to do alone ?
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Very likely it is this


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post Dec 1 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:56 PM)

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Ohh okay! Thank for the video man! Great help!
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post Dec 1 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:48 PM)
Few months ago a friend of mine bring me train at CF since his friend is a PT..... Then later when i do squat he suddenly corrects me lol bla bla bla and the moment i facepalm later he do chest exercises.....

The truth is that he doesn't even lift and he doesn't even work his calves lol.....
Bro u should already know that PT they just guide u lol they didn't know what may works for him might be different for u lol....

For example the way you do squat might be different. I know those PT would always correct one since they got more experience....
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yeah...just saying that the 3 PT sessions are quite waste of time. Most of the time the PT was just staring at chicks at the gym while giving me advises. lolmax
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post Dec 1 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hey, sorry im a newbie here.. i always here the term squat.. but what ir really is? Is it hard to do alone ?
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try body weight squat first. Less risky and dangerous... then maybe you can do goblet squats...you can google them if you are not farmiliar with them.

Then slowly move to barbell squats.
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post Dec 1 2015, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 1 2015, 03:47 PM)
Oh really? That will definetely be useful  for me. Thanks foe the info! I tried drinking whey protein and i dint gain any weight... feel cheated lol....
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Simply drink whey protein where got will gain ur weight la brudder.. sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Dec 1 2015, 04:16 PM)
Simply drink whey protein where got will gain ur weight la brudder.. sweat.gif
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maybe he was taking mass gainer?
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 1 2015, 05:23 PM)
maybe he was taking mass gainer?
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Maybe, some mass gainer do have whey in their mix as well. But if only rely on mass gainer without proper diet..melingkup jugak sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2015, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 1 2015, 05:23 PM)
maybe he was taking mass gainer?
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Whats the different with whey protein and mass gainer? I bought dymatize elite mass gainer..
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Whats the different with whey protein and mass gainer? I bought dymatize elite mass gainer..
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Buying stuff, spending hundreds without even knowing whats it's for.

Weird people SMH.
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post Dec 2 2015, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Dec 2 2015, 03:05 AM)
Buying stuff, spending hundreds without even knowing whats it's for.

Weird people SMH.
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Maybe you find it weirds but.. Yes, I do admit that I have 0 knowledge in working out or bulking up, but because I would like to start gaining some mass (I'm skinny type), I know I am not good at it.. that is why when i purchase the protein shake, I would get some recommendation from asking the store staff.
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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 2 2015, 08:36 AM)
Maybe you find it weirds but.. Yes, I do admit that I have 0 knowledge in working out or bulking up, but because I would like to start gaining some mass (I'm skinny type), I know I am not good at it.. that is why when i purchase the protein shake, I would get some recommendation from asking the store staff.
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Just to share...mass gainer is better for people who are skinny and trying to put on mass if you cannot eat alot of whole foods? since shakes are easier to drink than foods to swallow.

I myself are the fat type so I dont go for the mass gainer...I just need the extra protein in my diet,thus, the whey protein shake...

Try to eat more calories if you wanna bulk up (calorie surplus) calculate your required calories for your bodyweight and maybe add 200 to 300 calories for now to your diet.
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 2 2015, 09:43 AM)
Just to share...mass gainer is better for people who are skinny and trying to put on mass if you cannot eat alot of whole foods? since shakes are easier to drink than foods to swallow.

I myself are the fat type so I dont go for the mass gainer...I just need the extra protein in my diet,thus, the whey protein shake...

Try to eat more calories if you wanna bulk up (calorie surplus) calculate your required calories for your bodyweight and maybe add 200 to 300 calories for now to your diet.
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Thanks for sharing the information!! smile.gif will take note on it. Atleast now i knkw how to differentiate tongue.gif
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Thanks for sharing the information!! smile.gif will take note on it. Atleast now i knkw how to differentiate tongue.gif
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Work on eating more calories. Study on proper ways to do exercises on youtube or articles..take some supplements...should see some changes in 2-3 months...

I am also still learning alot.
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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 2 2015, 08:36 AM)
Maybe you find it weirds but.. Yes, I do admit that I have 0 knowledge in working out or bulking up, but because I would like to start gaining some mass (I'm skinny type), I know I am not good at it.. that is why when i purchase the protein shake, I would get some recommendation from asking the store staff.
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Go invest in knowledge first.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/bodybuilding-revealed-will-brink/
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Dec 2 2015, 09:54 AM)
Work on eating more calories. Study on proper ways to do exercises on youtube or articles..take some supplements...should see some changes in 2-3 months...

I am also still learning alot.
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2-3 Years*
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2-3 Years*
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post Dec 3 2015, 12:04 AM

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you serious on the book? shakehead.gif
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you serious on the book? shakehead.gif
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Yea...
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QUOTE(Dy1an312 @ Dec 2 2015, 08:36 AM)
Maybe you find it weirds but.. Yes, I do admit that I have 0 knowledge in working out or bulking up, but because I would like to start gaining some mass (I'm skinny type), I know I am not good at it.. that is why when i purchase the protein shake, I would get some recommendation from asking the store staff.
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read this

simplesciencefitness.com/

all the basics you need to know. and it's all FREE
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QUOTE(Miracles @ Dec 3 2015, 09:42 PM)
read this

simplesciencefitness.com/

all the basics you need to know. and it's all FREE
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Damn nice wei!!
Mod pls stick this link!
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While we all can agree that majority of the PT in these commercial gyms can do more harm than good... but if you happen to know someone who is educated and qualified, if you have the funds, it's still good to have someone there to guide you...

I'd recommend darklight79

 

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