From the link on my former comment you can determine the spoke length. They do sell different spoke lengths. As for lacing, single lace is ......... (one pair, one upwards and one downwards is one pair) , the single lacing is 2 empty slots between per pair. Double lace is 4 empty holes between the pair. Lacing is actually how many times the spokes intersect each other. The more they intersect the stronger the build. Happy building! It takes a lot of effort but worth it. Remember that truing is easy but getting the spokes tension even and most of all, getting the rims totally round is the hardest.

For that price plus the price of travelling to get it, it is not worth the trouble for a used unit. You can get the Tern Link here, brand new by just adding RM300. This saves you the trouble of transporting it here as well. The bikes are priced more expensive in Penang , maybe because Penang's businessman are more professional and don't wage price war againts each other. Chin Aik in Carnarvon St. is the agent for Dahon and Terns but if you check with Kimbell Jaya in KL, they will send the bike to you for an extra RM40 to RM50. Just call Jimmy the owner of Kimbell Jaya and discuss with him.

https://www.facebook.com/Kimbell-Jaya-18448...286059/?fref=ts

If your budget is AUD500, there's a lot of choices for you in Malaysia, especially in KL. If you are willing to get used unit, it's even cheaper. But I am sure a Tern D7 is about RM1400 or slightly less if you don't want freebies. A few days before you come back, check the bicyclebuysell site.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/#!page=1&sea...=&discp%5B%5D=4

I have used my former Dahon Speed on offroads before (Yes! offroad gravel trail for a full 30 km in a palm oil plantation) and it's OK. In the group were Bromptons, Tyrells and KHS. So, it should be OK if you stick to the branded ones. But because of my Dahon Speed is chromoly steel, it's more easier as chromoly steel absorbs bumps better than the rigidness of aluminium. That's why most tourers are made with the same material. Bouncing up and down kerbs shouldn't pose a problem but it is much more stable on a regular 26 inch bike. The folding bike is 20 inch so it is much more un-stable so it comes down to skills in the end and not about the robustness of the bikes in your question.

Then again, there are regular folding mountain bikes which are 26 inch, namely Dahon, Tern and Java. DOn't go for Hummer because that's crappy!

Boardwalk not Broadwalk is a good bike and the tubes are chromoly. Just take a test ride and keep a lookout for movement or creaks from the fold area. If all are OK, check for rust in the holes near the fold area after folding. If there are too much rust, means it is not well taken care off. One thing to bear in mind though, if it is a D7, it means the hubs and the rims are of inferior quality. You cannot move up to 8.9 or 10 speed unless you change the wheelsets and hubs. But these are getting cheaper already in Malaysia.

Snap a phot and post it here after you buy it.

I suggest you all fold the bikes and then load them onto your car and drive to Putrajaya and ride. Much safer. Don't forget your lights. I stay in the same area and I don't think it's really safe nowadays with the MRT construction making the whole traffic system hap hazardous. There are millions of cars going into the housing estate with the jams on the main Saga Highway. Better safe than sorry! Putrajaya is only 15 minutes drive there at night.

Yes you can. Basically, how the handle post is attached to the frame is the same. Dahon uses their own proprietary method where they tread the fork steerer and uses their own large allen nut. This is very secure compared to all the others which uses the star nut. So, if you can find a handle post with the straight design, you can.

Here's an example,
http://world.tmall.com/item/41054148830.ht...0714.0.0.xmLx5l

To be fair, RM850 is already a good price, for the seller ( if it is a Vybe C7a) ...that is. If he refuse, then he can keep the bike. Regardless whether some seller says, ............." won from a lucky draw",,,,,,,,,,,," rode twice only".............."bought the wrong size" etc.etc, the price is still a used one. If the Vybe is won from a lucky draw , most probably it is a Vybe C7s. It's the heavier ones and used to be sold for less than 1K formerly. The C7a is an extra RM200 to RM300 more.

Let's put it this way, why buy from another person if I can spare a little more for a new one and with the guarantee from a shop. If it much less, then it worthy right.

Like another forummer said before, the difference is the material used. One is aluminum which is lighter and the other is steel, hence the prefix 's' or 'a'. You need to find out yourself as we don't have a picture to compare nor do we have anything, for that instance to say anything else. Make it easier still, offer RM850 and buy it. Makes no difference to you yet.......even if it is an 'a' or an 's' now. Just take the first step and ride, regardless of whether it is worth it or not. Regardless if it is an 'a' or an 's' it is still cheaper than buying a new one in the shops, right?

If it is a Vybe D7, then it is the latest Vybe nowadays with an RD hanger. The selling price is RM1.3K averagely now. If you can get it at RM850 you can safely grab it. And if it is really what he says, never been ridden before, another RM100 or RM150 should be OK. But like I said, some would rather pay that extra to get from a shop.

The older version Dahon C7s ....................... Look at the folding clasp area. They are different, the older versions has bulkier clasp.



The new Dahon Vybe D7

A Helix would be nice.

http://www.ridehelix.ca/

Yes, why not? Fits perfectly in fact.

PS/ The inner chainring looks very small. The outer one is 53T so the inner one should be 39T but it looks smaller than a 39T.

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 27 2016, 11:57 AM

I think GW Cycle have a few unit. Not much lesser than a new unit but still 2K is good money especially in times like this. I think the Bs are from the UK used Bromptons store which might be imported through Singapore. I am not sure, else where can he get so many of them. Brompton buyers are not known to sell their Bs. Usually they keep them until they gather dust, hahahaaa. I mean a person who spends 7K on a folding bike are not in need of money usually.

GH cycle at The Strand has just restock their Maxxis tires. I heard the range is full. If it is, you can try the Maxxis DTH. If big is what you want then go for the 1.9 ones. There's 2 sizes for 20 inch (406) 1.9 or 1.75 width. It has more treads and tougher than Big Apples. Actually they are BMX tires but very good for foldies too. More tread for off road as well. More grip too but when I used the 1.9 the last time, the rear tires rub my Dahon Speed's rear chain stays and took some paint off. So, I changed to 1.75s. Those bike with rear cahin stays have to get 1.75s as the profile of the Maxxis DTH is different from Big apples (although they are 2.0) which are roundish compared to Maxxis DTH which are flat and squarish at the base. The tires really grips though but wears off faster than Big Apples, softer compound mah!

Kevlar beaded tires (or foldable as they called it) are all high pressure tires. You don't have to use maximum tire pressure as they are quite high volume. But it also depends on the width of the rims. Wider rims tend to lower the height of the tire and also flatten out the profile. Just bear in mind though........it takes more effort to push a wider tire. That's why the road bike tires are puny.

Yes, off course.

That nut is 17mm. A 17mm spanner will do the job. You can actually modify the hubs to a quick release one. Cost about RM70 with the quick release squewers ( cheap ones lah off course). Else actually you can repair a puncture without taking out the wheel.

Turn your bicycle upside down with the wheels in the air. Just take out the tire walls, exposing the inner tube , one side is enough. Take out the inner tube and pump it and locate the puncture. Patch it according to the patch kit procedures. Check the internal sides of the tires with your fingers to see if there are any sharp objects and rectify if there are. Put back the inner tube and press the tires back onto the rim beads. Pump ! All this is done without taking out the wheel.

In the older days, bicycle riders usually patch it rather than change the inner tubes. Only nowadays, riders change inner tubes once punctured!

It's actually a 'monkey see, monkey do' kind of procedure. You only need the proper tools and then take out the shaft. The shaft can be bought at Kimbell Jaya or any LBS for that matter. You need to get 2 shafts one front and one rear. Make sure they are hollow type for the QR skewers. The rear ones are standard but the front ones................if you use Tern or Dahon , you need to shorten them. And also the skewers , for the front you need to shorten them as well if yours are 74mm. After measuring the right length, you have to cut and then re-tread the 5mm treads. Kimbell jaya can do the modification if you ask them but not on a weekend. Best on a weekday.

The cone bearings has to come out and the shaft changed with a hollowed one. Just remember the sequence and then re-assemble them back tracking the sequence. Might as well service the hubs as well. Clean it with kerosene or degreaser and then re lube them back. The trickiest part is the last bolt adjustment. It has to be tight enough so the whole assembly won't rock but not slow down the rotation. That's why bicycle tool sets have 2 of those thin 15mm spanners. It is to lock these nuts when the hub assembly goes loose. They will in the long run anyway.

Happy trying

There are many reasons why one falls into such a trap. For 3 years, I have been riding a foldie and the biggest flaw I see in a foldie is......................Not enough gear ratios ! We are a group that travels far, far places almost every week. Once a month we ride nicer further destinations. It was fun. And as for gearings, Brompton comes in as the worst ! In our rides , among those with 30 speeds (a KHS), 27 speeders (mine and a few others after modifications and the 18 speeders (eg. Dahon Visc and Dash ) and you have the 6 speed Bromptons. Worse of it, they are 349 - 16 inchers! It was the most under spec-ed bike of all and yet the most expensive !

Why I emphasize EXPENSIVE ? Becasue that is why you are so attracted to the Brompton and so are many of the others. They have become a niche group and you are just so eager to join the club. It's not wrong though, every riders have their priorities, just don't blow your credit card finances and suffer paying interest just for a bike. Just like many who buys BMWs who cannot even drive outstation without getting the middle finger, it's absolutely their right and their enjoyment to do so, just like the Bromptons. If you feel you want to be among the niche market............go ahead. Enjoy

Till today, I can spend almost 10K on a mountain bike and I have 2 of it too, me and wife, identical rides but I still find it so hard to fork out 5K for a used Brompton! So, it comes to priorities, what's yours and mine are totally different.

If you really want it, just go ahead.

As mentioned by you, everyone has a different opinion as I too mentioned, it more of priorities. Folding size or speed was never my criteria in choosing a folding bike. I usually don't take commuter trains hence I didn't mention in my comments. Mine was more for weekend rides ranging from 40 km to 200 kms over a weekend. That's why a Brompton is highly dis-advantageous for my use. Desastar, you are a different rider from most of the 'B' riders here in Malaysia, so I won't refute your comments. It's true BTW. I also notice many 'B' riders are multiple bicycle owners. I too practically knows most of the 'B' riders here in KL/PJ and they too use a more varied gear ratios bike in many of their longer rides or hilly rides.

The phenomena is not only in Malaysia but in many countries as well. In Korea it is such a status symbol that Brompton UK decided to limit their export numbers to Korea. Brompton UK did not want the Bromptons to have a different identity to what they were actually made for. Singapore has quite a number as well. I have even seen Brompton Singapore riders charter a whole coach to Taiping for a community ride there and just as the rides starts, it started drizzling and all of them folded back their bikes and hopped back into the bus. I am sure you are not these kind of riders, right?

I actually can't resist the 'peer pressure' as well, both me and wife wanting to get a 'B' as well. Apart from the compact folding which is already surpassed by Helix folding bike with a bigger 24 inch wheels and lighter as well, there is nothing that attracts me. I then ponder on the Rohloff 14 speed gears on Brompton. It was then ideal but it also makes the rear really heavy and the proper rear triangle cost was too much! Even worse, Malaysian currency makes everything 26 percent higher. A 6 speed Brompton cheapest variety has breached the 7K mark now. Now many potential Brompton buyers are saying the resale value if better. Isn't it getting to be like a car but then I never buy something to be sold later.

My full suspension mountain bike is 12.6 kg with 30 speed while the Brompton is 14 kgs + with 6 speed. A Dahon Speed is 12.8 kgs with 8 speed and cost one third of the Brompton. As for ride, the Dahon Speed rides better. I just can't figure out the advantage of paying so much extra.

Then it is the best choice for you. Teh Dahon EEZZ is also quite portable, small 16 inch and lighter and cheaper as well. As for used Bromptons, GW Cycle seems to have a few of them for sale. I don't if it is still in stock though. Usually those who rides Bromptons don't sell them off even if they don't use them anymore. eBay has many but the problem is the transportation charges. Easier if you have someone carrying back for you. It's cheaper in Hong Kong too, ranging from HKD8000 to HKD 12,000 depending on models and conditions. Try contact Flying Ball Bicycle Company in Hong Kong. We are talking about used unit........ya!