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lostxkitten
post Nov 22 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 03:13 PM)
here another idiot. national language, so? not like can bring u anywhere....

so far only govr companies still backward use BM.
others fully english or english+ mandarin or english + others(depending on origin country of the company)
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So, using BM means backward.
and using English means high keras/well educated/white powah.

HAHAHAHA
GOV = Majority malaysians can understand BM. They use that as formal language only. I think beside BM still got translation to other languages.

But, when you go to any gov agencies. Do they force you to speak BM?
Also, when you go any police station or anywhere, you still can converse in english.
It is just a language, just like singaporean use BM in army as formal. What is the fuss?
You can speak english, nobody is stopping you but our national language is BM.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 22 2015, 03:04 PM)
To that writer. Try go out of Malaysia and see BM can bring you how far? Bagai katak dibawah tempurung. Which language used most at other country?

English or BM? When I go Europe can BM help me when I ask around? You need English you Buffon.
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To me the more languages you know the better. English is most important but no language is truly useless. Especially one that >50% of your countrymen speak as a first language.

The red shirt rempits that refuse to learn and are proud of not knowing English are definitely dumb though.


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post Nov 22 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(clock7510935 @ Nov 22 2015, 03:23 PM)
only in malaysia doctors need to proficient in english.... i others countries some doctor cant speak in english at all but still manage to treat patient and become a doctor...
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become bomoh no problem.
what do u call aneurysm and lupus vulgaris in BM?

protek, jangan tak protek.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Nov 22 2015, 03:05 PM)
As if BM is merely an optional subject in our primary and secondary schools.

But BM is a compulsory subject and we learned it for at least 11 years.

During my Form 5, some Chinese and Indians consistently outscored the Malays in BM, till our BM teacher held a 'chat' with the Malay students in our class. If they expect us to write the "bahasa berbunga-bunga", that's very hard for us to do because we are non-native speaker of BM.

BM is our national language and I respect that. But we have to be practical as well. Truth is the application of BM is very limited in business and science. Not only its usage, the vocabulary is limited as well. I would say the peoples who refuse to recognize the importance of English or refuse to learn a third language are also ignorant as well. They'll complain after refused employment by the private sector and end up leeching in government agencies.

Many of them will say the Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, French, Germans, Russians are successful without English. Mind you that the Malaysian heritage, work ethic, culture and history are very different than those countries. Are we one of the kuasa besar dunia? What we have to offer to the world till they have to learn BM to master it?

Guess the writer is one of the many who are impressed by Banglas' ability to speak BM fluently in six months and ready to share his/her tongkat with Banglas.
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this single post, shows how segregated malaysian citizen is...

malay dgn malay, chinese dgn chinese, indian dgn indian....
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:33 PM

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I think every Malaysian should know english, malay, mandarin and tamil. I mean, we've lived alongside each other for more than 50 years. Maybe these 4 languages should be compulsory subjects in school. We wouldn't bicker about the usage of language anymore.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(lostxkitten @ Nov 22 2015, 03:26 PM)
So, using BM means backward.
and using English means high keras/well educated/white powah.

HAHAHAHA
GOV = Majority malaysians can understand BM. They use that as formal language only. I think beside BM still got translation to other languages.

But, when you go to any gov agencies. Do they force you to speak BM?
Also, when you go any police station or anywhere, you still can converse in english.
It is just a language, just like singaporean use BM in army as formal. What is the fuss?
You can speak english, nobody is stopping you but our national language is BM.
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yes because its in Malaysia only. Me are not interested to stay Malaysia forever. Thats why I make sure I study hard and graduate, so that I can leave this country forever.

they will say cakap BM la..cakap bahasa omputih buat apa.


maybe u are lucky? bcos I still have to type in BM when report in police station... hmm.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Nov 22 2015, 03:31 PM)
this single post, shows how segregated malaysian citizen is...

malay dgn malay, chinese dgn chinese, indian dgn indian....
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True dat.
All are egoistic mafaka.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(SelfieMaster @ Nov 22 2015, 02:47 PM)
Kindly explain why is this article written in English instead of Malay.
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bam.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleblueroses @ Nov 22 2015, 03:33 PM)
I think every Malaysian should know english, malay, mandarin and tamil.  I mean, we've lived alongside each other for more than 50 years. Maybe these 4 languages should be compulsory subjects in school. We wouldn't bicker about the usage of language anymore.
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Agreed with this... Like how the European country has done....
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 03:35 PM)
yes because its in Malaysia only. Me are not interested to stay Malaysia forever. Thats why I make sure I study hard and graduate, so that I can leave this country forever.

they will say cakap BM la..cakap bahasa omputih buat apa.
maybe u are lucky?  bcos I still have to type in BM when report in police station...  hmm.gif
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Of course must type in BM, it is our formal language...
You just dont get it~ Useless talking to you.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:39 PM

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ni lah jenis2 yg die die pun nak defend maruah. sweat.gif

Cannot affect the fact that in international stage English > BM. If lidis, ask bijan to ckp in BM when tokking to Obama la ok? Since u so bangga bout ur maruah. kek
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:40 PM

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Don't know if people never read the whole article or they comprehended it differently.

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post Nov 22 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(lostxkitten @ Nov 22 2015, 03:37 PM)
Of course must type in BM, it is our formal language...
You just dont get it~ Useless talking to you.
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die die still wnat to defend BM



tell me what u achieve learning BM.



I learn because I were forced to.



see the state of our BM now...all end up jadi bahasa rempit
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 22 2015, 03:39 PM)
ni lah jenis2 yg die die pun nak defend maruah. sweat.gif

Cannot affect the fact that in international stage English > BM. If lidis, ask bijan to ckp in BM when tokking to Obama la ok? Since u so bangga bout ur maruah. kek
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we have many defenders here...
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Nov 22 2015, 03:05 PM)
As if BM is merely an optional subject in our primary and secondary schools.

But BM is a compulsory subject and we learned it for at least 11 years.

During my Form 5, some Chinese and Indians consistently outscored the Malays in BM, till our BM teacher held a 'chat' with the Malay students in our class. If they expect us to write the "bahasa berbunga-bunga", that's very hard for us to do because we are non-native speaker of BM.

BM is our national language and I respect that. But we have to be practical as well. Truth is the application of BM is very limited in business and science. Not only its usage, the vocabulary is limited as well. I would say the peoples who refuse to recognize the importance of English or refuse to learn a third language are also ignorant as well. They'll complain after refused employment by the private sector and end up leeching in government agencies.

Many of them will say the Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, French, Germans, Russians are successful without English. Mind you that the Malaysian heritage, work ethic, culture and history are very different than those countries. Are we one of the kuasa besar dunia? What we have to offer to the world till they have to learn BM to master it?

Guess the writer is one of the many who are impressed by Banglas' ability to speak BM fluently in six months and ready to share his/her tongkat with Banglas.
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super agree in the bolded part. Even BM 'borrow' or derive words from English. Have we seen English 'borrow' or derive words from English? kek

gotta face the truth, English is the go to language in some of the science field.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 22 2015, 02:43 PM)
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...orant-buffoons/

Learn our national language, you ignorant buffoons!
Fa Abdul
| November 22, 2015

While English is important, so is our national language and no citizen of this country has the excuse not to speak it well.
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What do you call a Malaysian who cannot speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who is embarrassed to speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who prefers to speak anything but Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who upholds his/her native language at the expense of Bahasa Melayu?

I call them ignorant buffoons and you should too.

While fluency in our national language is not indicative of a person’s loyalty or love for his or her country, the inability to master one’s own national language does speak volumes of a person’s character.

Two weeks ago, we were shocked with news that 1000 medical graduates gave up on their dreams of becoming doctors despite having completed a two-year housemanship in public hospitals, because they lacked proficiency in English.

While many have blamed our education system for the appalling standard of English among our students and graduates today, we seem to forget that our national language is going down the same longkang too.

Seriously, if it is seen as important for medical doctors to possess a fluency in English in order to do their jobs well, is it not just as important that they have a good command of Bahasa Melayu for the very same reason?

I have met quite a few doctors who are unable to make themselves understood by their patients just as they are unable to understand their patients because of a language barrier.

Without a basic comprehension of either English or Bahasa Melayu, how do doctors ask about the medical histories of their patients so that they are able to recommend the best treatments for them?

Let us not forget, 70 per cent of us are native speakers of Bahasa Melayu – why then are we not making fluency in our national language an important skill to master for medical practitioners as well?

In all honesty, if Bahasa Melayu was made a compulsory subject to pass for our graduates, I foresee many more dropouts in our local universities compared to the number of dropouts today due to the lack of proficiency in English.

This brings me to the recent case of a DAP Member of Parliament who insisted on using English while debating a bill in Parliament despite being rebuked by the Deputy Speaker to speak only Bahasa Melayu.

Why the stubbornness?

While I, myself see no issue in using English in Parliament since our MPs are pandai-pandai belaka (I think-lah) and can comprehend the language, I wonder why it is so difficult to also be able to present one’s arguments in our national language when requested to do so.

In my honest opinion, anyone representing the people should be able to communicate effectively with all levels of communities, thus making the ability to converse well in our national language a priority. How else are you going to listen to the rakyat’s problems if you do not understand them?

Perhaps it is time for us to make the proficiency of our national language one of the fundamentals of citizenship in Malaysia.

I guess that would be the best way to rid this country of ignorant buffoons.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:43 PM

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the prob is not Malaysians cannot speak it. the prob is only certain types of BM accents n slangs are acceptable by certain ppl.

no one goes around saying that "oh Australian English accent is unacceptable. only New York English accent is the right one"

i think we shud learn to embrace the many accents n slangs of BM used by minorities.

We cant all be speaking Malay with a rempit accent.

This post has been edited by jonny4: Nov 22 2015, 03:44 PM
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(StephMujan @ Nov 22 2015, 02:53 PM)
I wish they could just invent a new language and make everyone on earth use it.
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English is almost a universal language.

Unless the Malays can come up with some kind of wonderful invention or have the economic clout I see no reason as to why it should override English.

Most fark up in life can be avoided if we could all communicate clearly with one another.

Imagine the wastage of printing different languages around the world. We are talking about globalization today.

In the past most countries are isolated and thus the local language play a part. The sharing of scientific knowledge is in English so to advance you must be proficient in English.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:49 PM

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But which version of BM should we learn?

Even with good grades in BM, I find that in general Malaysians rarely use the BM we learned in school.

You go pasar, they use bahasa pasar, then Malay accuse you for not learning BM.

You talk with rempit, they use their own creation of BM.

You watch/read Malay articles, or Malay shows or news, and found that Malay language used by Malay themselves are mixed or copied English.

Personally Malay should take charge of standardizing BM for everyone, because as of the current trend it seems like they themselves are keep changing their language in order to sound high class.

Most other popular languages are so standardized that it's applicable to anywhere in the world.

However if I were to speak Malay that is taught in school with my Malay peers its as if I'm speaking a foreign language with them. Heck, kelate should be recognize as another country altogether.

Tldr kalo nak kaum lain ckp melayu korang kenalah tetapkan standard yg betul supaya org lain blh ikut. Kalo x jgn slhkan org lain sbb korang pon x fasih bahasa sendiri dlm menetapkan standard yg betul.
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 22 2015, 03:43 PM)
super agree in the bolded part. Even BM 'borrow' or derive words from English. Have we seen English 'borrow' or derive words from English? kek

gotta face the truth, English is the go to language in some of the science field.
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Then help the language to evolve la... Just put other language's word, we dont care...

you know, like kaotim, cincai, taiko....

Its not about business or science... its about unity and social life...



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