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SUSvuetnam
post Nov 22 2015, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(RottoManual @ Nov 22 2015, 09:37 PM)
hi, I really like the japanese language too, since my favorite animation uses the language. plus I think the coolest sounding language is the sanskrit(it was used in prometheus. sounded so cool). but it is unrelated whether I should go travelling or not.. TQ.
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tu untuk defender bm je laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(RottoManual @ Nov 22 2015, 09:41 PM)
I see. although I do not understand you being displeased with other people's liking of languages. I don't understand where this feeling of anger stems from.
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sorry

only bahasa melayu


others I fully support


please tag this..only bm
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 09:44 PM)
tu untuk defender bm je laugh.gif
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Bm:
tetapi seseorang yang mempertahankan bahasa malaysia (seperti saya) tidak semestinya menghalang pengunaan bahasa lain. Atau inginkan peluang rakyat lain dihalang sekiranya pengetahuan BM mereka tidak memenuhi harapan ahli politik(lain cerita jika tahap yang perlu dipelajari rendah) tetapi pada saya hanya sampai tahap untuk bercakap sesama rakyat malaysia lain sudahlah.

English:
but a person who defends the national language (like me) does not necessarily mean that he barred the use of other languages. Nor does he want the opportunity of other citizens to be held from them because of their inability to satisfy the needed requirement of language mastery dictates by the government(note:should the level be unfair) only to the extent of conversing with the other malaysian is enough. <-- just opinion.
QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 09:45 PM)
sorry

only bahasa melayu
others I fully support
please tag this..only bm
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note:
bahasa nusantara adalah bahasa yang lama.. ianya hanya bahasa seperti bahasa-bahasa lain juga..

This post has been edited by RottoManual: Nov 22 2015, 11:01 PM
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 09:33 PM)
to those who defend bahasa melayu

i don't want u to travel overseas, since you love bahasa melayu so much.

stay in malaysia, don't go overseas.
thats how u love yr bm
idiot bm defenders
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you can love bm while acknowledging the importance of english, you know.

you're saying as if the only two options are either being a protek protek red shirt or abandoning bm altogether.
SUSvuetnam
post Nov 22 2015, 10:36 PM

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RottoManual hmmm..... bahasa nusantara yang lama tu sudahlah, now bahasa inggeris, no more bm.

bigblackpikachu please don't say I love BM.. I never do, so please correct yr word. I already abandonded BM by throwing away all BM books where after that I send to the old newspaper. wasting my time learning bm.


english and other language excpt bm ftw


i use bm only when order foodand when being forced to...other than that, sorry
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(RottoManual @ Nov 22 2015, 09:24 PM)
not really.. Consider this, an Indian from india comes to malaysia. now he is called a malaysian. but is he still not an indian ethnically? of course he is. But he is also a Malaysian nationalistically. the Language of Melayu has been spoken by the people of this land + other parts in the Nusantara since long ago. it's roots is bahasa Melayu. and it is still today, but for the sake for it's new identity it would also be called as Bahasa Malaysia. but the people who has roots from the generations of old who dwell in the land for ages long past could still call it Bahasa Melayu. no problem at all. of course la.. the people who have stayed here for generations should just be considered a malaysian la.. (edit)and of course they could still be recognized as their ethnic root also.. no problem.
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To get rid of an issue, the cause of the confusion has to be removed. What applies in the past may not apply in the future. This is the basics of progress. Once something is applied, in this case, Bahasa Malaysia, it should be sticked to.

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As the Bahasa Kebangsaan or Bahasa Nasional (National Language) of several states, Standard Malay has various official names. In Singapore and Brunei it is called Bahasa Melayu (Malay language); in Malaysia, Bahasa Malaysia (Malaysian language); and in Indonesia, Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language) and is designated the Bahasa Persatuan/Pemersatu ("unifying language/lingua franca"). However, in areas of central to southern Sumatra where the language is indigenous, Indonesians refer to it as Bahasa Melayu and consider it one of their regional languages. -wiki


Again, one or the other. It just depends what the goals are.
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 10:36 PM)
RottoManual  hmmm..... bahasa nusantara yang lama tu sudahlah, now bahasa inggeris, no more bm.

bigblackpikachu  please don't say I love BM.. I never do, so please correct yr word. I already abandonded BM by throwing away all BM books where after that I send to the old newspaper. wasting my time learning bm.
english and other language excpt bm ftw
i use bm only when order foodand when being forced to...other than that, sorry
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jika saudara rasa begitu sudahlah. tidak mengapa smile.gif selamat malam dan Harap aman selalu biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by RottoManual: Nov 22 2015, 10:42 PM
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 22 2015, 02:43 PM)
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...orant-buffoons/

Learn our national language, you ignorant buffoons!
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| November 22, 2015

While English is important, so is our national language and no citizen of this country has the excuse not to speak it well.
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What do you call a Malaysian who cannot speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who is embarrassed to speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who prefers to speak anything but Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who upholds his/her native language at the expense of Bahasa Melayu?

I call them ignorant buffoons and you should too.

While fluency in our national language is not indicative of a person’s loyalty or love for his or her country, the inability to master one’s own national language does speak volumes of a person’s character.

Two weeks ago, we were shocked with news that 1000 medical graduates gave up on their dreams of becoming doctors despite having completed a two-year housemanship in public hospitals, because they lacked proficiency in English.

While many have blamed our education system for the appalling standard of English among our students and graduates today, we seem to forget that our national language is going down the same longkang too.

Seriously, if it is seen as important for medical doctors to possess a fluency in English in order to do their jobs well, is it not just as important that they have a good command of Bahasa Melayu for the very same reason?

I have met quite a few doctors who are unable to make themselves understood by their patients just as they are unable to understand their patients because of a language barrier.

Without a basic comprehension of either English or Bahasa Melayu, how do doctors ask about the medical histories of their patients so that they are able to recommend the best treatments for them?

Let us not forget, 70 per cent of us are native speakers of Bahasa Melayu – why then are we not making fluency in our national language an important skill to master for medical practitioners as well?

In all honesty, if Bahasa Melayu was made a compulsory subject to pass for our graduates, I foresee many more dropouts in our local universities compared to the number of dropouts today due to the lack of proficiency in English.

This brings me to the recent case of a DAP Member of Parliament who insisted on using English while debating a bill in Parliament despite being rebuked by the Deputy Speaker to speak only Bahasa Melayu.

Why the stubbornness?

While I, myself see no issue in using English in Parliament since our MPs are pandai-pandai belaka (I think-lah) and can comprehend the language, I wonder why it is so difficult to also be able to present one’s arguments in our national language when requested to do so.

In my honest opinion, anyone representing the people should be able to communicate effectively with all levels of communities, thus making the ability to converse well in our national language a priority. How else are you going to listen to the rakyat’s problems if you do not understand them?

Perhaps it is time for us to make the proficiency of our national language one of the fundamentals of citizenship in Malaysia.

I guess that would be the best way to rid this country of ignorant buffoons.
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BM not compulsory subject to pass? I'm not sure if he realises he's a buffon too

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post Nov 22 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Nov 22 2015, 07:42 PM)
I wonder.  But ever wonder if there is British who do not speak its national language?
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british has any policy discriminate its minority citizens ?
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Nov 22 2015, 10:39 PM)
To get rid of an issue, the cause of the confusion has to be removed. What applies in the past may not apply in the future. This is the basics of progress. Once something is applied, in this case, Bahasa Malaysia, it should be sticked to.
Again, one or the other. It just depends what the goals are.
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Agreed. but only if we make it an issue. There is no problem with people of other races here recognizing their ethnic roots but Also identified as Malaysian. the Same with Language, it is Bahasa Malaysia now, but it was and still is bahasa melayu. by Definition. for example, I like this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWf6KvoGgAI

sorry.. I forgot how to embed video... cry.gif anyway.. I get what you're saying, BM should be recognized as Bahasa Malaysia Officially. But it could also be called and known as bahasa melayu. but in formal gatherings, newspaper, tele, it could be Shown as bahasa Malaysia only. no problem.

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post Nov 22 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Vape On @ Nov 22 2015, 07:44 PM)
I dont know.

Can one survive without learning that language?

Isnt that a myth? Just like proton is a global car?
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I hate this kind of people. I bet if there's war, you're the kind of person who don't give a fcuk and leave the country. Or if it's not war, economic crisis. Please migrate soon or at least die.
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:59 PM

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the video above is from the last samurai laugh.gif and the context begins at 3:40.. lol
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post Nov 22 2015, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(RottoManual @ Nov 22 2015, 10:41 PM)
jika saudara rasa begitu sudahlah. tidak mengapa  smile.gif selamat malam dan Harap aman selalu  biggrin.gif
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aqew selalu amanz
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post Nov 22 2015, 11:07 PM

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APA BAHASA YANG DIGUNAKAN DALAM NAMA PENUH "UMNO"?
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post Nov 22 2015, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 11:07 PM)
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aqew selalu amanz
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my gosh.. the usage though laugh.gif

QUOTE(mcko @ Nov 22 2015, 11:07 PM)
APA BAHASA YANG DIGUNAKAN DALAM NAMA PENUH "UMNO"?
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Lol!!! laugh.gif
*edited* funny iz funny rclxms.gif

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post Nov 23 2015, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Nov 22 2015, 05:40 PM)
true2, there's a lot of em in here~
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I'm surprise you actually agree with me that BM should be up to each individual to learn or not to learn.

Most of the time, it's guys like you who like to scorn against those who don't see BM as that important.

Now are you sure you're talking the same thing here or


you're butthurt? smile.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2015, 12:07 AM)
I'm surprise you actually agree with me that BM should be up to each individual to learn or not to learn.

Most of the time, it's guys like you who like to scorn against those who don't see BM as that important.

Now are you sure you're talking the same thing here or
you're butthurt?  smile.gif
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Kikew zatew



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post Nov 23 2015, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 23 2015, 12:10 AM)
Aqew sangew sedi

Kikew zatew
Bahasa rempit
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I don't think anyone should be forced to do something he/she doesn't want to.

Especially the language of bahasa.

Don't turn this into a demonizing tool.

That is what the likes of UMNO supporters are.
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post Nov 23 2015, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2015, 01:17 AM)
I don't think anyone should be forced to do something he/she doesn't want to.

Especially the language of bahasa.

Don't turn this into a demonizing tool.

That is what the likes of UMNO supporters are.
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you can't avoid enforcing in a country. it's what makes a country a country. there are laws to uphold. and there are different needs and priorities. the japanese would enforce japanese, the arabs would enforce arabic, so on and so forth.
Learning the language of the land isn't supposed to be an issue. But many people still take issue.
I'm not saying Malaysia is perfect, but we're in a country... it's a place with structure. a Malaysian should at least be able to converse in BM to speak with other malaysians (unless you don't plan on conversing much with the malays in malaysia. In this case I say up to you lah.. but we hidup mesti bercampur sebagai negara berbilang bangsa).
It's not just about the language itself. It's also about the identity of Malaysia, some people might not see it as being important but many do.
Of course, there are many other issues that is more important. I agree, but that does not mean to just throw our national language away...

This post has been edited by RottoManual: Nov 23 2015, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 23 2015, 12:07 AM)
I'm surprise you actually agree with me that BM should be up to each individual to learn or not to learn.

Most of the time, it's guys like you who like to scorn against those who don't see BM as that important.

Now are you sure you're talking the same thing here or
you're butthurt?  smile.gif
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What do you think? brows.gif

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