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kagenn
post Aug 24 2022, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(rko1268 @ Aug 24 2022, 10:47 AM)
Hi guys, any chance for a 4.5 years experience QS / Contract Executive / Estimator in a construction industry to get a job in sydney? is there any requirements?
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You could check the priority occupation list for Australia if you're interested:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

It does look like Construction Estimator is on the job list. You'll have to calculate your points to see if you can get enough points to get an invitation.



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post Aug 26 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 25 2022, 11:23 PM)
the question was about getting a job....

fyi, the two are quite separate issues....getting a pr and getting a job....

unless you are talking about employer sponsored tr visas....which unfortunately give you no long term certainty....
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You're right, I should've been more precise - I don't think getting a job will be quite viable with just 4.5 years exp, as they'd probably not value then Msia exp, versus say another first world country applicant.

There's nearly 3.8k (Construction) estimator jobs on seek and less than 1k on Linkedin (often these overlap too). Maybe there's a specific recruitment site for this sort of work that I'm not aware of.
With these number of jobs I don't think it's likely to get a job from overseas - given the nature of the construction industry, imo, especially with the need for local qualifications and apprenticeships.

I personally think getting a PR is more likely - though god knows where they might you to work vs picking the state/city of preference.
It may be easier to get a PR as I'm sure Aus is more than willing to gain new talent, especially on the priority occupation list.


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post Aug 27 2022, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Aug 26 2022, 11:20 AM)
I am seriously glad to see the nons making waves overseas. We will eventually migrate and let this hellhole turn into indon. Anyways, for Aussie, I am applying PR first then get a job there. Meanwhile i am already in another country building expertise.

One level downgrade is fine, 2 levels a big no. Generally Malaysians who get selected for interviews are more competent than locals.
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While I agree strongly with the sentiment that the nons should move if they are able to as the country isn't headed in a great direction. I do hope things get better, as there's plenty of family there who can't or do not want to leave & Msia turning into a hellhole is far from a great outcome.
Ironically, I think Indonesia is performing a lot better than Malaysia and the roles have more or less reversed when we used to think of Indon as one of the worst SEA countries.

Ideally when people migrate they get a job equivalent or a level lower than their previous role, but I think that's pretty wishful. More often than not I've seen plenty of migrants having to restart their career over again entirely.
Best to have more grounded expectations, unless one has a good friend who can help rope them into a role or as a referee.
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post Aug 27 2022, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Aug 27 2022, 04:49 PM)
Yea, so for those who migrated, i strongly recommend them to sponsor the less fortunate to migrate too. That's my wishful thinking which I one day may be able to do together with like-minded friends.

As for restarting career, it really depends on the skillset vs job scope. If you are applying for a totally new job foreign to your expertise, then yes. Otherwise, why the major downgrade if your skillset remains relevant to the job?
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The only way you're gonna be sponsoring friends: when you are a multimillionaire and throwing em money to buy those PRs.
Otherwise it's from 43k AUD onwards only for each parent that qualify and I don't believe you can bring any other family members over. If there's any other method, I'm not aware of it.

It's because you don't have relevant 'local experience' or other first world country experience. It's pretty common, unfortunately. Both myself + wife had to restart our careers entirely and we applied for easily 200 or so jobs for our first 5 months in Aus ranging from Msia equivalent roles to junior roles but couldn't even get an interview.
Many others are not able to retain even a job 1 level lower - with the exception of them giving you a job offer first. Granted my personal experience on this might be a skewed and you'd have many who can provide entirely different accounts on their job seeking.

Also the grass isn't always greener here - as a skilled migrant you do not qualify for their handouts if you can't find a job or sustain yourself here for the first 2 years.
It'll also be an entirely diff working culture with its own issues.
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post Aug 28 2022, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Aug 27 2022, 10:04 PM)
Actually I got a job offer in Aussie - 1 level lower than my current, which I rejected as I am aiming to move over at a higher level. Yea, Australia life is difficult for the first few years but beyond that, it's pretty much what we expect it to be.
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Good luck with your job hunt! Hopefully you can find something soon before they wind down for the Christmas holidays.
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Sep 8 2022, 05:09 PM)
Just renewed my rrv (subclass 155) for 5 years for A$431.

Got 5 years to decide if i want to go back to Sydney to live/retire.

Did it online - quite easy but took about 30 minutes to complete.
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I did the same thing in July, pretty straight forward.
How's it going for you back in Msia? Enjoying the cheaper standard of living?

I was under the impression that the inflation and cost of living was rising a fair bit based on what my mum has been telling me.
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post Sep 15 2022, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Sep 10 2022, 08:54 PM)
Hello my friend, inflation is increasing in Msia but i am bringing back Aussie so it is still very cheap compared to Sydney prices. Kopitiam prices is still very cheap compared to our Sydney prices (average A$20 per plate for kopitiam types of food in Sydney). No doubt the plate sizes is smaller in KL compared to Sydney but the difference in price (esp after factoring in the exchange rate) is astronomical. Even restaurants with air-conditioning here in KL is about half the Sydney price - the only thing is a lot of restaurants here add in 10%sst and 6% service charge - something we don't have in Sydney.

Only thing that gets on my nerves is how people drive here - people here drive like lunatics!! I don't drive fast so i learn to cope with all their erratic driving behavior. We got to watch everywhere because you will get people driving against the traffic sometimes (people going the wrong way in one-way streets). I never have much to complain about driving on Sydney streets but in KL, i see a lot of crazy drivers and riders here. Lucky i go out only at off-peak hours.

Stay in touch!
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Yup, both wife and I can't stand driving in Msia during peak hours if we can help it, lots of the drivers are as bad as drivers in Philippines - truly terrible. Lidcombe drivers can be comparable to the Msian drivers every now and then.
Can't show too much kindness when driving there or other drivers will definitely take advantage of you.

That's good in regards to food - the Aus version of the Msian food usually missed the mark for me and they cost easily 3x more. The Vietnamese food is consistently better in comparison.

Hopefully you've not encountered any petty crime or otherwise. Managed to do any traveling in the country? Definitely plenty of beautiful spots to visit and if our trips back to Msia isn't always so packed visiting friends & family, we would definitely have gone out of the city.
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post Nov 26 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Nov 25 2022, 11:01 PM)
Hi all,

My employer (bank) is considering to transfer me from SG branch to SYD as permanent hire. I have family who is Australian. Is it better to have family sponsor or employer sponsorship for my work visa? Wishlist is to have a pathway to PR so my children can enjoy free education. Welcome your experience and thoughts. Thanks.
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Heya there - not sure about family sponsorship as it'll take a very long time, and not even sure if you can get it unless you meet certain criteria. Probably easier to get the employer sponsorship and then eventually apply for your own PR based on your own working experience/skills like the subclass 190 visa.
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post Nov 27 2022, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Nov 27 2022, 07:51 AM)
Thanks. Got it. Get in and plan accordingly.

For children schooling, do you know of any distinctions between a PR and foreigner for enrolment?
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I'm not as well versed in regards to the price difference as I came to Aus as a PR.
It's quite likely different pricing for different levels of education based on the states themselves as they can vary greatly.

Your best bet is to wait for someone who knows to respond, or to check out immigration agents' websites like:
https://www.sableinternational.com/blog/aus...nd-who-does-not

Alternatively you can check out the Department of Education for international students like this NSW example:
https://www.deinternational.nsw.edu.au/study-options/fees



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post Nov 30 2022, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 30 2022, 12:50 AM)
During my time,... I'd go ask the school headmaster himself/herself,... What I did was I targetted a few schools that I think would be good for my kids,... then I made an appt to see the HM. Nothing beats this tactic for wholesome information for your planning purposes.
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Something I have to consider myself in the future as my kiddo is just an infant now. I'm even considering changing my religion so he has access to better schools too if it's worthwhile.
Hopefully the Christian schools aren't too hung up on that and would allow others outside the religion to join too if they're a good student.
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post Nov 30 2022, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Nov 30 2022, 06:17 AM)
Is there no waiting list or parents volunteering scheme to join the school?
Do these schools have affiliation towards religion and enrollment priority is given to specific group?
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You get enrolled into the school if you live in the catchment area (for NSW at least) and those outside the catchment area can apply to get in if IIRC.

Yes - some schools only accept those of a certain religion, my manager said he tried to enroll his kid into a Catholic school but could not pass the somewhat harsher requirements - had to enroll the kid into a different Christian school further away.
Can't say I fully understand the requirements as I'm pretty much an agnostic.
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post May 28 2023, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 22 2023, 10:11 PM)
Is it possible for a fresh graduate of UTM 's Electrical Engineering to get a job in Australia, n how to go about it?
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You'll have to check the skilled occupations list via: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list
Check the list and decide if there's a suitable job (usually they want some experience) and which pathway to take (e.g. 189 - points based system) and research on what's required.

Alternatively go for a migration agent which will cost you a fairly hefty sum.



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post Jul 2 2023, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kaiser658 @ Jul 2 2023, 05:39 PM)
Hi all, first time posting so please let me know if this is not the right place to be.

My wife and I have been interested to migrate to Aus, under Skilled Migration. We had a consultation with one of the agency and we both are qualified for visa 189.

We were planning to appoint the agency to assist until we saw the quoted fee of almost RM50k (all-in I believe, for both of us). May I ask if this is the expected amount to pay for the agency now? I understand that it is cheaper if we apply on our own but would it be riskier to do so?
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I suppose this is the right place, though occasionally it gets quiet and then ramps up for a bit.

If you have more time than money then I'd recommend reading it up on the website yourself and determining if it's viable for you to do this on your own:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getti...ts-tested#HowTo

It's possible to do it yourself but it's gonna take a lot more time and maybe some trial and error - compared to the agents who should be more proficient at this. You have to ensure your profession is on the site and that you (and/or wife) can accumulate enough points to qualify.
You will also have to provide a lot of the documentation/requested items yourself. I went through an agent about nearly a decade ago and it was RM30k-ish if I remember correctly.

In the end we came over with some RM60k, which converted into roughly 20k aud. It was pretty tough till we found a job about 3 months later.
The more money you have the better your chances of lasting long enough to get a job here (unless you're coming over with one) and rent prices are pretty crazy nowadays.
Go through the link and check if those steps are achievable, then make the decision. Good luck!

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