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Hansel
post Jan 30 2020, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 30 2020, 06:46 AM)
Probably good if one can afford children I think. I've seen marriages break due to kids - and even worse one partner doesn't want to deal with his kid who had some issues at birth. They're extra expensive in Aus too as we will not have family support (even then no guarantee they'd wanna help jaga or you want them to, some dramas have to be avoided)

Not saying this is the norm, but it does cause problems to couples who can't manage their lives, coupled with additional responsibility (or extra with kids who need extra attention) to break up. I am thinking about kiddos but the dilemma of the cost and upbringing here is Aus just adds a different sort of stress. It's like an extra limb stuck to you for life that you'll regret if things go south.
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QUOTE(twotwopig @ Jan 30 2020, 08:35 AM)
I have seen a few real life scenarios:

Father continue to work in Aust while the mom brings the child back to Malaysia as needed family support until old enough.

Friend (lady) in Aust with 2 kids taking welfare and sharing house with her mom (also working low wages). Father working in Malaysia supporting the wife.

Family with 1 kid all alone in Aust without any support but the wife (higher earning) continues to work while the hubby stops work to take care (house husband) as childcare is expensive and no rebate (still not PR).
I guess the point is as long as you have think of the various scenarios and know what you are getting yourself into, I think you will make do with what you have to make it out; be it sending it back to grandparents and be away or just earn / save less or whatever.
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Tq bros for your comments,... we try to make do-lar,.... we fulfill our duties to the best we can.
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post Jan 30 2020, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 30 2020, 09:34 AM)
Having kids in Aust can get very expensive - you always hear about parents talking about childcare costs and how much their kids are costing them. Government in Aust wants couple to both be working and this can create a very stressful life esp if there are children involved (even more so if you don't have grandparents to help out).
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Well bro, we try to make do... money helps.

When kids are young, bringing-up expenses.

When kids grow-up (for which I am experiencing now in Aust),... university expenses, lifestyle expenses (my boy wants a sportscar, two electric guitars with amps, etc, etc,....),...

We give whatever we can and we feel right to give,... that's the best,... I think,...

Even wives also,.. they may want things,... you buy for one, the other may want something too.
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post Jan 30 2020, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 30 2020, 09:46 AM)
From what you have written, you sound pretty wealthy. thumbsup.gif

Money can solve a lot of problems in life!!  biggrin.gif  If we are lucky in life to find ourselves in a favourable financial position, we should be grateful for it.  rclxm9.gif

I know quite a few new migrants in Sydney who are struggling (financially) and have been doing so for quite some time now. I try helping them but there is only so much one can do.
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Can solve quite a lot of probs, bro,... but I'm afraid not all problems.

This thought came to me when I was in The Alps : I went for a winter drive around central Europe and Switzerland the last few weeks. We organized this as a family and my daughter's bf was nice enough to join us ! It was a special experience. We stayed, ate and shopped everywhere. ....if I never had children, I may not have a chance to experience this.

Sure I can go with my friends and my other wives, but somehow, going with this 'group' felt so special. No amount of money can 'buy' this experience.


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post Jan 30 2020, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 30 2020, 01:27 PM)
Wives?? I hope that is a typo because they can be very expensive  sweat.gif
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post Jan 30 2020, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jan 30 2020, 02:51 PM)
Having kids can make parents become frugal eventually, even though there is a surplus for saving after covered every necessity.

This is the thought our family always carry, each generation. For I who have a few businesses back in KL, I wouldn't want to spend too much on over-hyped stuff like super babies education or super international school.

The only thing I find it difficult to accommodate my kids in Aussie is the time, me and my wife loves to work.

I send my children back home in KL for daycare and decent Montessori it cost me about 250 AUD per month per kid, she started at 2.5 years old.

When my kid enter kinder in Aussie, she asked me these questions "daddy, teacher taught me these before" or "daddy, the school here is boring", my wife went to check with her kinder, and apparently most of the kids just started first education in their life, but our kid already went through 2 years of learning.

I am not trying to compare, but at 2.5 years old, daycare can cost a lot in Aussie. Therefore, I rather spent her in proper daycare and teaching school back in KL.

But cultural wise, I believe she will happier in Aussie with a less stressful environment. In the past I had fought with my wife before, she wanted our kids to not get too comfortable and therefore she wanted her to study in Malaysia until standard 6 in Malaysia. We are still deciding on this issue, but to be separated frequently from kids is not what I wanted.
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I took mine here after they started secondary school. I wanted them to have a certain level of awareness of their Asian culture before assimilating into a western environment. I noticed they loved the outdoors being here,...

I Skype'd with my family regularly from KL and SG,.... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 31 2020, 08:58 PM

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Thank you for the good discussions, gentlemen,....

We have to think things thoroughly before we initiate new and revolutionary behaviours.

Some tactics :-
1) Never be a tax resident of certain countries.
2) Look after all wives fairly and carefully.
3) Prove your leadership to your wives from the early days of your courtship to convince them that you are the right leader who will take care of them. If you can't convince them of this quality, it is better to break-off the relationship.

Or,.. otherwise, just let the relationship stay at a physical level.

4) Never marry an overly-smart and capable woman.
5) Always be a single breadwinner in the family, do not depend on the wives.

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post Feb 1 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 1 2020, 04:49 AM)
What you have written, most people in Msia (both genders) will not disagree with you.

My group of retiree friends (all ex-Malaysian aged in their 60s and 70s) who have lived in Aust for more than 30 years all used to think like that when we first migrated to Aust. Now having lived here for so long, their wives have all changed and are now the 'bosses' of the family - the men here have all become pussies. The Aust divorce laws are so skewed and biased towards the female that the average male feels so hard done by after a divorce!!

Sorry - got distracted this morning as the Dow has fallen more than 500 points (market still open now). icon_question.gif
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Yeah,... I observed the same too of my friends here in Aust,....SGX will drop on Monday then,....

Tks bro for the heads-up.
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post Feb 5 2020, 12:04 PM

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Thank you for the good points, gents. ...

We will 'swim with the waters, in whichever seas that we choose to be in. First is, we must choose the sea inside in which we have the most opportunities to win in and where the returns are highly worthy of our effort and time'.
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post Mar 8 2020, 01:58 PM

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Thank you for the good discussions in this thread, gents,...

According to my wife, the toilet paper rolls sold out too in Coles and Woolies here. I think the thing here is the toilets in Aus don't have water taps and bidets inside. That's why the urgency with toilet-papers.

My family installed toilet-seat bidets to manage this. Panasonic-brand is quite good. So, can still survive without toilet-papers.
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post Mar 9 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 9 2020, 04:11 AM)
My wife and i don't use much toilet paper and usually a 30-roll pack can last me 2 months easily so i am not too fussed.

What i am worried about is a global recession - i have started switching to more conservative investments lately as my investments so far have dropped more than 13% since 1 month ago. I was getting returns of about 15%/yr for the last few years and now, it looks like party time is over. I started switching about a week ago and i now feel the markets may have more to fall. Looks like hard times will be upon us shortly and it is probably wiser for me to work a little longer. icon_question.gif
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Tq bro Gary,...

On my side, my investments have not dipped below water at this moment, but of course, nobody can tell what will happen in future ! As of my checking a moment ago as I write this, I am 30.22% up ! Checked again - 30.07% up ! Looks like it keeps dropping,...

But this is still higher compared against 25.10.2019 last year, when I was at 28.73% up. I printed out that portfolio page before I divested one of my ctr's in the SGX, namely First REIT.

I printed out one last week, but I can't find where it is now,... well, this is how I track my equities performance in the SGX, retail tranche.

I am of the opinion that if I have practised proper and good portfolio practice (things like cutting loss early, letting profits run, and logical diversification), I should not worry now, and I should continue to hold to reap whatever dividends that I can get even if those dividends drop. If this meltdown goes deep enough, I will be able to see if my strategy is sound !

Your 15%/yr returns for the last few years - I'm afraid if you have sold and realized those profits, then I would say they are profits. if, say, these were paper profits but you were in the blue always, it may not be justifiable to say they are profits yet.

On retirement, I do my own business/practice. Except for the occasional pursuits by some clients, I am quite comfortable doing this till my last days. I would regret sitting home and looking at my portfolio only. For myself, in terms of retirement, the secret is to select cases which are NOT urgent. And to select clients who are not pushy.
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post Mar 9 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 9 2020, 10:55 AM)
My portfolio is back to June 2019 level (after calculating today's loss) as i was very confident even up to 4 weeks ago. My wife asked me to reduce my risk 3 weeks ago and i only moved 15% of my portfolio to safer assets. 35% of my superannuation is protected as it is a defined-benefit scheme where the employer benefit is paid as a percentage of my salary. I have 50% in International shares which have fallen 12.5% so far (not including tonight's Dow Jones opening). Altogether down A$1xx,xxx so far - i think it will be a 2 figure very soon but i still have a job which is the most important. Probably work another 2 more years and it will go back to the original figure. icon_question.gif
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Tq bro,...

On my side, I don't really depend too much on govt's pension schemes. I depend more on my own self-built safety net, but probably that's because of our individual circumstances. I do have quite a huge amt in my EPF, but I have always viewed any instrument in the RM has a higher tendency to lose out in the long run because of the weak currency. Hence, I have forgotten abt my EPF.

On yr international shares, even if it has fallen by abt 12.5%, if you are still in the black, I believed it is still okay. Yr function would then be to see how 'strong' your portfolio is in these times of meltdown.

Generally, if one is keen on retirement, I'm afraid he needs to figure out how to continue generating survival income WITHOUT falling-back on employment income.

A threshold needs to be crossed, no need to be a billionaire but at least a threshold needs to be crossed, depending on one's needs.

But yr plans are sound, and yr circumstances are strong,... you can postpone retirement if you wished to,... a great job is always there for you. This is very safe, compared against my friends in many countries today who are anxious abt redundancy.
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post Mar 9 2020, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 9 2020, 01:36 PM)
I am still adding into my retirement bottom line by contributing to the max on my super (only A$25k and after the 15% tax comes down to A$21.25k) so it is still not too bad as i have a lot of buffer to save more (outside super). It is only a bit frustrating to see my balance go down so much where for the past 8 years, the bottom figure is always increasing year after year and it increased my risk taking appetite to an unhealthy level. If the market goes down another 25-30%, i think i should still be okay (for my retirement) as i have quite a lot of buffer builtin. If the market rebounds the next couple of years, that will be a bonus.
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When you say you are still okay as you have quite a lot of buffer built-in for your retirement, do you mean to say that the passive cashflow that you will be generating from your nestegg is enough for retirement, or do you mean to say that you can safely withdraw a certain amt every year from the nestegg, and it will last you for a period beyond your estimated lifespan ?
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Tq Gary for your replies,... you should be comfortable with that amt in KL if you watch your spendings,... I think,... but every individual's circumstances is different.

I have children, hence, I must look after them till they are able to stand on their own feet. I let them start in Australia, but they have other ambitions which will take them to other parts of the world. That's what they told me.

Hence, my passive income needs to be bigger for myself and my spouse(s)..

Tq Kagenn for your input too,.... appreciated them,....
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QUOTE(boyz @ May 5 2020, 06:28 PM)
guys, any recommendation on how to manage your banking OTP/TACS using Malaysian mobile number/roaming? Thanks a bunch!
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Bro,... why do you need to receive OTP from an Aussie bank ? Which bank are you using ?
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QUOTE(boyz @ May 6 2020, 10:16 PM)
sorry i meant OTP for Malaysian bank while in Australia, my bad smile.gif
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Hi bro,.. tq for clarifying,...

I would use my Msian phone to receive an OTP from a Msian bank, and I'm not too sure if you can register a Telstra or Vodaphone number into the website for a Msian bank.

For extra info, you may need to use a Telstra or Vodaphone phone at times to receive codes when you are outside of Australia in order to perform transactions. An eg of this would be when you need to sign in to myGOV. You would normally need to receive an OTP to help you log into the app..

Edited by adding : Bro,... for my Singapore bank accesses, if I do not have the capability to receive an SMS'ed OTP, I can generate an OTP with my security dongle or with a digital security generation on a registered smartphone. I don't know if any of these is possible with a Msian bank in case you are not able to receive an SMS'ed OTP.

Sorry,... sounds very complicated,... but I'm trying to help here,...

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QUOTE(xphonerz @ May 7 2020, 12:35 PM)
I keep my MY number active and able to receive TAC with it
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Yeah,... my family does the same in Aust,...but we have to ensure international roaming is activated by our Msian carrier, or remains active. Sometimes it gets deactivated on its own,... sad.gif ,... then the TAC never came,...

But most of the time, it comes vey fast in Aust !!!

However, when we are in Msia and we try to get a TAC from CIMB SG,... then it's terrible. Most of the time, it does not come, or comes late and we have to apply for another TAC again because the earlier TAC has 'timed-out'.
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Happy Vesak Day to all bros who celebrate !

Time to remember that materialism and capitalism practices are only important in the physical world. These skills can't be brought with us to the afterlife.


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QUOTE(Rand @ May 7 2020, 01:04 PM)
I have my Aus number registered with Standard Chartered for the TAC. No never had any issues with this.
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Standard Chartered Msia ?
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QUOTE(Rand @ May 7 2020, 02:28 PM)
Yup, I've also done the same for HSBC Malaysia when I still had an account with them.

Generally no issues in receiving the SMS.
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Okay,... actually, it's not a problem to receive SMS'es from Msian banks while in Australia,... no issue with this.

What I was keen to find out earlier was if it was possible to enter Australia phone numbers into Msian banks systems as receiving phones for the Msian TACs.

The experience I had was receiving TACs from CIMB SG when I wanted to do transactions inside my CIMB SG account while being physically in KL.
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QUOTE(Rand @ May 7 2020, 02:53 PM)
I had to call them to do it, but they happily updated my Australian number into their system as the receiving number for the TAC.
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Ahh,... this is news,... tq. So, if you just log-in to their system via internet, you can't update your +61 number into the website, right ? You have to call them to input at their end for you.

But if you are to input a Msian number into the website, then it would be normal and can be done without calling them.

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