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 How To Check Your Forex Broker Is Genuine Or Scam, Real FX Broker VS Scam FX Broker

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post Aug 24 2018, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(fxbreaker @ Aug 24 2018, 10:07 AM)
Hi Harry, are you HarryT on myfxbook discussion? he state that he are "independent sales consultant" for MIA/Fintech  ( https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-...rison/1596263,4 )

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As you can see .. FintechFX Has NO VALID FOREX BROKER LICENSE even the NFA Membership NOT APPROVED, and if even it approved, its license for CPO / CTA, not as forex broker.

So As FintechFX has no valid license, then your money is not regulated, no segregated account and NOT SAFE
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Does this mean If MIA + James Harrison change their forex broker to a Credible Genuine Licensed and Regulated Forex Broker the problem will be solved right?

So for all MIA members, especially on Manager / Agency Manager / Regional Manager level that read this thread, just push this issue to MIA Management.

It's very rational that MIA can change their broker, just like they have changed the broker from ODIN to FINTECH, so it's not hard to change from FINTECH to other broker like FXCM, OANDA, GAIN CAPITAL, INTERACTIVE BROKERS, just name all Credible Genuine Forex Broker out there.

Because if James Harrison is REAL, then ANY REAL FOREX BROKER will do, MIA+JH will still got 20%-40% of profit sharing.

But if MIA Management are reluctant to do the RIGHT THING .. it's a SIGN that MIA is a SCAM ..

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post Aug 26 2018, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 26 2018, 10:45 AM)
can u share more with us on the UTS?
I'm interested
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Not much information in their website... Only general information, it seems the important information only passed down by member from sponsor
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post Aug 27 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Wayne-Huai @ Aug 26 2018, 10:32 PM)
most of us are looking for passive income, thats why investing. but recently too many money game in Malaysia, those greedy people want to get high return but never do homework to check the company background, then pass money to particular individual, don't you think this is a stupid action?

During the past few years, UTS is ignored by people because of many 20%-30% ROI out there, UTS only providing 3%-8% ROI, of course stupid people will go to the higher ROI, but they never think that where is the money come from? end up money gone + friends gone. But UTS still surviving as he deserve, why? because UST is a transparent marketing company, investors able to visit broker, able to meet fund manager, investors only need to TT fund to broker to funding to investor's account, not through UTS, so no matter how much fund do investors transfer in 1 time, there is no issue. Broker PT Sentratama is a regulated broker in Indonesia, regulated by government. Broker will email monthly trading statement to investors, please do homework by yourself, if you still can't get any info, they welcome you to visit to the broker company.

Now UTS even provides agreement with lawyer stamp for investor and fund managers.

Please contact me if you want to know more, I'm lazy to type more here zzzz...

*funny people judge something just via website, what if fake company create a pretty website? so many stupid guys talking in forum.
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https://www.sibfx.co.id/index.php?lang=en website is much much much moree informative than http://www.uniontradersociety.com/index.php/en/ ...

is sentratama = UTS ? as local representative in indonesia
or sentratama is one of many broker appointed by UTS ?

in sibfx.co.id described how to invest, flow to transfer to segregated account, etc, btw in sibfx website stated that the company founded on 2000, so it is quite long running investement company, plus point for trust level

This post has been edited by mukidi: Aug 27 2018, 10:02 AM
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post Aug 27 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Wayne-Huai @ Aug 27 2018, 10:07 AM)
Thanks for your info bro xD

Yes, Sentratama (sibfx) is a 18 years old regulated broker, as you mentioned it's founded on 2000 until now. That's why UTS chose this broker for investor to invest by using this broker.

So how can you compare a broker website(sentratama) with a marketer(UTS) website?
UTS website is only accessible for their investors.
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so how the investment going on? we transfer to local broker ? then give trade password to UTS?

or

UTS have aggrement with Broker (like MIA and FintechFX) ? what is Term & Condition, is there locking period, etc.


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post Aug 27 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Wayne-Huai @ Aug 27 2018, 11:05 AM)
No local broker, investor just need to Direct TT to broker via anybank to Mandiri Bank (indonesia national bank)(direct to Sentratama Indonesia), after that will receive email regarding your account info from Sentratama, then send your account ID to UTS, they will plug-in your account to Fund manager. Thats all, no need even your password.
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what about minimum deposit?

and is there any locking period (cannot withdraw) ?

and how about profit sharing % ? commision fee ? illustration on investment .

btw Why don't they describe all common information in website, so investor candidate can know more about it

Thx
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post Aug 28 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 28 2018, 09:20 AM)
FM profit sharing is 55% which is too high la...
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Don't forget about one time fee, maybe it's too high for commission / sales fee

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Commision fee(UTS): this is the only fee for UTS, no one will provide free service, right? you will not work for free for your boss, right?
So, 8.5% of capital will be deducted (only 1 time, only new funding), other than that, no further fee.


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post Aug 28 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Wayne-Huai @ Aug 28 2018, 10:41 AM)
He is professional who trading for bank, of course he dare to share 55%~
So you better go to money la..20% ROI haha..
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Any trade performance history of Janis?

Proof that he can achieve 3%-8% nett (= 6.6% - 17% gross profit) per month

June / July performance is enough

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post Aug 28 2018, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Wayne-Huai @ Aug 28 2018, 11:01 AM)
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This is the first FM i have met who able to make such good risk management.
Every trade only 10-30 pips, no floating trade.

I take this result because you can see the rm15k capital funding and first month result. this is my new smallest account.
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thx for the info .. how about july & august ? can you also share the screenshots? is it still consistent? thx

because June trading is very different from Maxwell Global Trading (based on malaysia) even though they also use Janis as FM ...
I think if Janis got investors from many countries and broker and marketers(like UTS, GFS, MGT, etc), he should apply same trades,
maybe only seconds in time different

they lock fund 1 year, profit sharing 50:50 and also loss sharing 50:50
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Sep 3 2018, 06:25 PM)
Dear elite,

We hope you can contribute by filling more complaints to regulators regarding the scammers misconduct including FinTechFX to ASIC and Triumphfx to Cysec.
We have done our part, PM us for know how.
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DrFX, why don't you share how to file complaint to regulator here?

So maybe there will be more people file the complaint, and regulator can make decision based on that.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 4 2018, 04:33 AM)
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It is very mahuan to report one. Need to provide many proofs.

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Is it very complicated ? .. then maybe all scammers out there also know this, so they just casually doing their scam
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post Sep 14 2018, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Sep 13 2018, 02:38 AM)
To report Australia scam companies like FinTechFX, please refer below web site. We need more people to report for quicker action.
https://www.asic.gov.au/about-asic/contact-...onduct-to-asic/
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Thanks .. I just file complain through this link ...

I don't know if my chosen option is the best, this is my report :
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QUOTE(Kaiwah @ Sep 14 2018, 12:17 AM)
Hi guys, I am a formal member of MIA FinTechFX. After reading this post I decided to withdraw all my capital. As u can see the amount I withdraw from those withdwraw fund statement. Mia FinTechFX do promote that they have segregated client account. But this is what happen when i withdraw my capital from their official website:[attachmentid=10019950][attachmentid=10019951]
I withdraw 3 different times from both of my Fintechfx account.
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this was the first 200usd that i withdraw but the money came back from a SHIONG FATT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
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the second and third time withdraw, my money is deposited by a D & S AUTOMOBILE COMPANY.
I don't know how and why do i get back my capital from those company personal account. I do sense something fishy.
Posting here so that everyone would be more aware, and any elite can tell what does this mean?
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Thanks for sharing ... just see on WD number, from ~WD00048XX jump to ~WD00158XX .. it means that from date of 4 sept to 11 sept .. there was more than 11,000 withdrawal request ..

You are lucky that your money already transferred to your account, then your money are safe ..
just go info that some member already go status "Released" from 3 sept, but no money come to the bank account till now.


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post Sep 14 2018, 09:27 AM

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This is email reply from NFA, regarding FintechFX claims about NFA License, I've got it from, https://sites.google.com/view/miafintechfx/...-pertanyaan-mia (bahasa indonesia) :

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post Sep 14 2018, 11:23 AM

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This is email receipt from my complaint to ASIC,
some information are censored for my safety

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so if you please, also file complaint about this issue, so FintechFX will be banned or at least ASIC will give WARNING on their press release about this FintechFX
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post Sep 18 2018, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Hermione888 @ Sep 17 2018, 08:39 AM)
I just made an withdrawal after reading this post.  My withdrawal number is WD0016xxx. Hope is not too late to withdraw.
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yes, please update us about your withdraw progress.

In "normal" time .. when you WD from FintechFX the status is "Pending" and max 24 hours will be updated to "Released",

and within 3 to 5 working days, your money will be transferred to your bank account from "unknown" person / company .. that they said as "Money Changer",
sometimes the amount will be split by 2 or more "Money Changer" (don't know why)

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post Sep 19 2018, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kaiwah @ Sep 19 2018, 01:17 PM)
I still don't feel safe for the money inside this company, as those “money changer” have access to our money
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Yes, it will turn scam soon, and one of the sign is problem with withdrawal, that's why I also want to know about @Hermione888 withdrawal progress.

My suspicion is the "Money Changer" is bank account created by MIA - FintechFX using false ID, or they buy this active bank account from other person. It's easy to get active bank account (sold in forums) that usually will be used to scam people.

I'm afraid that maybe fintechfx will put blame to "Money Changer", maybe they will say that fintechfx already transfer the money to "Money Changer" but the "Money Changer" run away with client money.


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post Sep 22 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(cryptojunkie @ Sep 20 2018, 10:55 PM)
can you share How do you make a deposit to fintechFX?
Are you using a bankwire method or through your upline?
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for my case, I deposit via my upline, I transfer the money within same local bank, and my upline will transfer his MIA "Register Point" to my MIA Account ( app.mia491.com ), then I have to choose "Investment - Place Order" menu to send Register Point to FintechFX, and within 24 hours my MT4 Account will be updated.

For bankwire it's more weird, because FintechFX bank account is in AUD, but our MT4 Account is in USD, so there will be double conversion rate from my local bank -> AUD -> USD,

from this point its really clear about their scam, if they trade using USD and they said have segregated account for investor, why the bank account in AUD


QUOTE(Kaiwah @ Sep 22 2018, 08:42 PM)
I requested my upline but they say that it's my capital inside FintechFX and they can't do it for me. So i do the withdrawal at the fintech website. Your username and password u should get it from the email when u sign up.
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For Profit Withdrawal is using application in app.mia491.com, we can "sell" our profit to upline and upline will transfer the money between same local bank or we can choose withdraw to our local bank, then money will be transferred from unknown person/company that they said is a "money changer".

For Capital Withdrawal is using web FintechFX, after certain days money will be transferred from unknown person/company that they said is a "money changer".

Btw after this exposure of MIA - FintechFX scam, they are try to be low key ..
They forbid MIA member to discuss about MIA-FintechFX in social Media or Forum2 like this forum, if found out then your account will be frozen (weird ha... mia can froze our account).
They active in group (whatsapp / telegram) to pacify their member by :
- Keep saying that their NFA license is valid, using many reasoning (haha only stupid idiot people still believe this)
- Keep forwarding Screen Capture that "someone" still trust MIA-FintechFX by deposit big money (70K, 80K, etc) (can be fake screenshot, its easy to create)
- Warning existing member that if they withdraw all capital then will be forbid to rejoin (hehe .. only idiot people want to rejoin)

So beside high level in MIA that want to secure their income, only stupid or naive or greedy people still believe and Join MIA - FintechFX
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post Sep 26 2018, 10:04 AM

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Just got follow-up email from ASIC, they are investigating MIA - FintechFX issue ...
I also reply to provide more detailed information.

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So hope ASIC can ban or at least give official warning is their ASIC Website, so less people will be scammed.

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post Sep 27 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Hermione888 @ Sep 27 2018, 01:54 PM)
Finally I received my money after 8 working days.  It is not transferred from some random construction or automobile company but by cash deposit. Probably they are more careful now.
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Yeah, with cash deposit it's more difficult to track the source of the money devil.gif
it is clear that fintechfx is breaching law of AML (Anti Money Laundering),

but I'm surprised that my neighbor is still believe in mia - fintechfx rclxub.gif bangwall.gif
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post Oct 4 2018, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(khen25 @ Oct 4 2018, 03:55 PM)
OMG !!! i already register and start investing on this FintechFX

What should i do , if i withdraw now , i will lose money
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I'm surprised that you still choose to join MIA - FintechFx, are you not googling first about MIA - FintechFx? now it's already a lot of information about Mia FintechFx scam evidence.

Well you can try withdraw your money ... see if it still withdraw-able ... at least you only loss 6% money (3% from deposit fee and 3% from withdrawing fee)
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post Oct 10 2018, 01:32 PM

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MIA - FintechFX still trying to lure people to invest mega_shok.gif

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post Oct 17 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(abdul darmo @ Oct 17 2018, 03:34 PM)
mia fintech is realy one of scam?100% scam? confused.gif
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Just google Mia FintechFx bro ... every investor should googling first about any investment they want to put their money,

and on this forum you can try read from :

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry90041885

And if any MIA - FintechFX member want to defend / reason with us, just post their reason in this forum ...

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