Nice thread. Swtiched over to a macbook prior coming here to Malaysia and I can say that I do like it very much. Even though some programs tend to crash. My batter lasts longer than 3 hours but then again I seldom use it as I usually just plug in the power chord most of the time. When it comes to Microsoft Office I recently read an article about changing from Office to other programs. Kinda interesting and you can find the link HERE

IMO to use the word converts or switching camps make one sound like a fanboy / religious-fanatic.

i prefer to use the word 'enlightened' (pardon the corny usage of words) - for me, heck i'm on 3 camps!!!

Ok, I'm gonna attempt at merging my replies - let's hope i don't need another moderator to help me re-edit my posts. Certainly don't wanna be kicked out of this forum!

goldfries,

I've absolutely no idea how you're able to surf without the wi-fi being enabled? Also, need to know if applications like bluetooth are automatically set to on, or like mobile phones, we can enable it whenever we need to use it?

A computer without an Internet is uhm, well to me kinda useless actually! Won't be able to get much work done. Ok, admittedly I'm also used to having the internet at the tip of my fingers - Too bad, I'm not located at the 3G Island.

artyca,

I think the plug points in Germany is different from those in Malaysia. Our typical points are basically the one with 3-square holes (1 at the top, 2 at the bottom). Guess I just need to get this information from the Mac shop but otherwise, will just have to carry an additional adaptor [but the thought of having to carry the additional adaptor just for power source purposes on a daily basis is just *ugh*)

redlum,

What programs are u using that frequently crashes? It's not something common I hear about of Macs. Thanks for the link - I'm definitely more comforted knowing NeoOffice is 100% compatible with Words & Excel. As for Powerpoint, I'll just tell my boss I can't do it anymore because if i do, it won't work on any other PCs in the office

goldfries,

Aren't you lucky you can remain in 3 different camps without being harassed by each other? You'd probably find a total different scenario when it comes to women!

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Dec 6 2006, 01:54 PM

HAHA!! Seems like i talking geek

Well, i'm not that patient as you think. Just i'm not satisfy with the current macbook, MBP sure satisfy me but on other hand, just look at the darn price. New technology will have a never ending story. Just for your little extra info, by 2008 intel will release new processor again, it's alot smaller size (45nm) and support SSE4. So, will i goin' to wait? Don't be nutz la

Hmm.. rumours about leopard, heard that it goin' release sometime near vista release date. Eithe Jan or Feb. (Hopefully, there's will be hackintosh for leopard as well.. )

Yea.. i got think about that question. Then, of cos the performance will be *sux* than ATI/Nvidia, due to sharememory. As i say before, i not a hardcore gamer. Right now i not satisfy the fact that macbook (w/o pro) will not equip with GC mobility. GMA950 kinda *lame*(that's my thought), as for macbook pro, price too high.

say thank you to Guy Kawasaki, one of the more famous Mac Evangelists of the early days.

ehh i think you understood my post. my point is when you're not using the WiFi (airport) then you can disable it to conserve battery power, same goes to bluetooth.

i've disabled bluetooth. AFAIK bluetooth and airport comes default enabled. you have to disable them.

yup. i'm a supporter of all. i don't like the idea of being a "Windows sux0rz" or "Mac sux0rz" kinda person. the way i see all the OS is that they all have their pros and cons, they were made for one thing or another but neither of them are lousy.

strangely people have been getting ideas that once you switch OS - you're stuck forever. ok well that's true if you have only 1 machine. hehe.

ok. shame i donno who he is prior to this only know Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds........ ok and yeah Steve Jobs.

I think I need to re-plan my time esp if I want to ensure I'm being productive at work - this forum definitely ain't helping me increase my productivity

Doubt there'll be a need to disable wi-fi but bluetooth is prob something I prob can disable unless when necessary. Yeah, there are pros and cons for the different OS but generally people try to use whatever they're used to - my personal theory about Change is that people DO like change, it's just the process of it that they can't seem to stand, hence to simplify things they just tell you they don't like change - and that to me, is total BS

Have no idea who Guy Kawasaki is but to me, he sure sounds like he's related to Honda

No one seem to be able to give me a suggestion as to if I should hang on and wait for Leopard to be released before getting the MBP. For Windows, at the very least I know there's free upgrade to Vista for purchases made now.....

tinkerbel.. do a google for 'Guy Kawasaki'

Well... if you're not in a hurry... then wait a bit for Leopard.

i don't disable my airport either, but hey you never know there might be times when you really need power. saving even a little bit helps.

and about changes, generally people don't like changes as long as it involves
1. additional learning
2. getting used to something (related to #1)

however, people LOVE changes if it involves no effort on their part, eg
1. changing from a 21" CRT non-flat TV to a 42" Plasma TV.
2. changing from XYZ car to ABC car, assuming both are on same transmission balbalbal

azxel,

I'm really an impatient person and when I've set my mind to something, I usually want it yesterday [well, i'm sure that doesn't surprise u too much coming from my line of work]

Anyhow, back to the question of Leopard, how long'd u think i'll need to wait? I know u prob won't know but rough estimate? Wait till Jan 07 maybe still can but if gotta wait till March/Apr 2007, might as well don't buy oredi lah like dat *heh heh*

goldfries,

Exactly my theory of 'It isn't true people do not like changes'. Well, I sure wouldn't mind a brand new BMW 3 series for the price of uhm, a brand new Honda Civic [well, at least I didn't say Proton Saga ok?!]

I also wouldn't mind a 42" Plasma in exchange for the 21" FlatScreen Sony TV that's sitting in my room too *grins*

Tink.. u see... the video adapter has an RCA output as well as an S-Video output... so wat u do is juz to hook the nifty little thing into ur mini-dvi port... connect the RCA/S-Video output to the TV's input... get an audio to RCA connector (for sound...duh..)... and u r all set...

DVI is the big brother of mini-dvi... serves the same purpose... dont hv to look me up when u do decide...

basically, i bumped my MB to 2GB ram... and tat's it... it friggin flies... i initially tot i'll be using windows full time (with Bootcamp) but after a wk on OSX, i deleted the windows partition... oh ya, btw, windows absolutely flies too!... heheh... another reason i took out windows cause i'm juz tired of havin to run the antispyware progs la... defrag la... make sure antivirus is up to date la... get rid of startup processes la... so tat's y lor...

OSX is really good... i only managed to crash my machine 1 time! Honest... and according to my mates, tat's one time too many.... hehhehe... so i'm happy with this switch... :-)

according to the apple website... Leopard should be launched in spring 2007 i.e. May if my guess is right...
If you can wait for another few months, by all means... The additional features that are previewed for Leopard are not something to die for, but the cool factor is certainly high!

good write up on the Star Intech today about Mac Vs PC.

This thread isn't about MAC vs. PCs . Smell trouble coming

Mostly IM-programs. MSN and Adium krashed all the time when I used them. But now I'm using Mercury which is perfectly stable. Firefox also tend to crash now and then. I also had problem with some widgets before that tend to use upp 100% CPU but I turned them off.

supafreak,

Don't worry bt me looking you up for something as 'small' as the MiniDVI and DVI. I'll just ask the shop when I go in and make my purchase of the MBP - am sure they'll be able to show me how to work it. It's definitely gonna be more useful being shown than anything else

At the moment, I've no intentions of running XP on the Mac but, and if the time/need comes I guess I'll just run bootcamp on it and get XP installed but thanks for the info anyways.

Er, and how'd u manage to crash your Mac? What did u do?

Acquiesce,

Am home sick today but will try to get a copy of InTech

Keith,

I don't think Acquiesce is starting a debate on Mac vs PC here. Instead, I think he's just sharing info about an article which appeared in InTech today. Until he starts behaving like a 'fanboy' then we'll decide what we wanna do with him, k?

redlum,

Ah, so ur having programs with IM programs. I did read about the 'not-stableness' of certain IM programs but whilst they're being developed for the better, there are still quite a few options available (though it was pre-warned not to expect great GUI). I think aMSN was recommended as a pretty stable IM program - can a Mac user confirm this please?

I'm assuming Mercury's an IM program too? On XP I'm just running MSN Messenger so I guess aMSN should be sufficient for me, or well Mercury [jots this down in her book!]

Er, I've heard of Firefox but don't quite know what app that is. Oops...
Ok - got it figured. Firefox is a web-browser alike to Safari.

Btw, N0eL's having some issues with Gesture controls on Firefox - anyone can assist? [Now I gotta go figure out what Gesture controls are]

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Dec 7 2006, 02:03 PM

Am running amsn at the moment. Not much problem so far.Interface is quite similar in comparison to Msn messenger only without those background images. Signup to server quicker than Msn messenger. One of the 3rd party programs with webcam capability.

I have not try other IM programs other than Msn Messenger for Mac(cant connect at all). So can't tell you which one is better.

Firefox is a famous web browser. The windows version is great. But Kinda buggy when it comes to mac. I have problems with shockwaves and flash websites. Need to boot up safari quite often. Still use firefox though due to it's gesture enable functions. Can safari do that too? i gonna ditch firefox~!

N0eL,
My reading and research tells me the current MSN Messenger for Mac is uhm... well, not too good. Connecting in is a problem - it takes ages, so many have abandoned that or just waiting for a better version to come along I guess *shrugs*

Gesture controls aren't something I use so it shouldn't be too big a concern for me. Am on MC today - should perhaps go over to 1U and sit myself down to test out the MBPs

Won't be surprised if I walked out with one too... Then again, I can't leave the house cause sick

Yes, that is correct I use Mercury as it is a MSN-clone. It also have webcam-feature but the most important thing about it is that it logs in quite fast and don't crash. I'm suprised you don't know about Firefox as it is a very popular browser I just find it kinda annoying to switch between safari and firefox. I think that firefox is the better browser but sometimes it crashes so I'm using safari as well.

I really hope that adobe releases the beta soon for the creative suite 3 with intel-support! YAY

tink... the adapter is not sold off the shelf ya... if u can find i totally salute u.. :-) it's so ridiculously simple to use it's erm ridiculous... u juz plug this in plug that in... voila... moving pictures on ur tv...

I'll be trying out Parallels... it seems like an easier solution... but can't say much cause i've not installed it yet... but frm wat i gather so far, it's a pretty good solution... Parallels vs Bootcamp = Virtualization vs dual boot...

Erm... i'll try to remember ya... i was burning a dvd.. i had itunes, safari, skype, azureus, keynote, itunes & can't remember wat else runnin... i was muckin with my azureus... and pointed the save file to my external HDD... oh ya... i was saving some files into my external hdd too... and then for the 1st time ever, the machine froze... cursors moved but nothing else... the dock got stuck... so had to force reboot & reburn my dvd lor...

oh ya... iDVD is the best!... VirtualHUB is amazing too!...