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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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lynetnonyma
post Jun 12 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 12 2016, 11:09 AM)
You wanna test me for what?

Boost ego meh?

Do it cos you want to improve yourself........
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This thread no longer quiet since the return of Boon3....
Good to see you back, after missing for a while....
Now I can disturb you again....

Don't think he's testing you, just asking opinion on what looks like 9822 and 7199.

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post Aug 10 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 10 2016, 01:26 PM)
Duh !

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So you don't think GADANG is at the peak and may be breaking out to go higher?

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post Aug 10 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 10 2016, 04:31 PM)
IMHO stock market esp chasing of peaking stocks can be like a Ponzi scheme sometimes

If u happen to jump in to chase and u have others following you, u are in the game

U just have to quit before the others do

Simple as that
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Yes. But sometimes when the stock is breaking out, it really does go much higher and you can make some good profit. As usual, there is no fixed rules.

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post Aug 10 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 10 2016, 04:32 PM)
back to your question...
err...
I no under standing.
Can say again?
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I was just wondering whether you think that GADANG is at a breakout stage. The chart seems to be like a cup and handle, but the handle part seems bery short. Not sure if that indicates anything.

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post Aug 10 2016, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 10 2016, 04:44 PM)
Stock market is often irrational, we have stocks that fly up beyond what u can quantify or imagine.

See my holding HLIND, sleeping for entah how long, then when breakout, see where it is now? Who would have imagined it could reach current price? When to exit? No one knows.
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Yes, I noticed your HLIND when you mentioned it around 9.00. Good for you that you got in much earlier.

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post Aug 10 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 10 2016, 04:44 PM)
Maybe I should have boasted about my super stock picking...I could have said "believe me, this stock will fly SOMEDAY" whistling.gif

If I correct, now I could boast.

If I wrong, who bothers to remember all my stock calls? rolleyes.gif
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Well, this is how it is everywhere. If you pick 10 or 20 or 50 stocks, chances are that some will go up and then you can say you pick correctly. Even the so called professional analyst reports don't always pick the ones that go up. And they are free to keep changing their target prices or revise their reports when conditions change. No one really knows what will happen. Sometimes its just luck I guess.

Its good that you have found what works for you.

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post Aug 10 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 10 2016, 04:57 PM)
I got it at 6.00+/-

I bought in purely based on fundamentals, not on charts or technical analysis or hot tip/rumours whatsoever, and it used to be a sleeping stock.

And now it suddenly become a stock to punt rclxub.gif

That's why my investing philosophy has always been - buy stocks that have solid fundamentals, so that IF no one were to goreng it up for u, at least u can fall back on dividends and earnings growth, price growth will naturally come later if the company does well.

Leave the punting and speculating thing to Lady Luck.
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Yeah, I know you got it much cheaper. What I meant was that you mentioned it again when around 9.00 recently. That's when I was watching it as a matter of interest. I know you go based on FA. I don't know much about FA, so I check on TA more.

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post Aug 10 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 10 2016, 04:51 PM)
Ahhhh...... smile.gif

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YES!

Technically or should I say ideally....
the should have pulled back more...
hence a 'better' handle....

but from a perspective of what had happened...
the stock moved up strongly due to its 'better' (ahem) results.....
(oh I do have to say... the stock actually moved just before the announcement of the result...  rolleyes.gif  )
... and then it consolidated (which should be expected).....
but alas... the consolidation period was way too short.. (hence the kuci mai handle)

so...
it's not the perfect 'formation' .... (ahem)
and yes...
you are correct to say that it's breaking out to move higher (and of course the reason here is KYY promotion. LOL! )
(yeah... technically it should move higher too... tongue.gif )
that's my 3 sen worth.
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Thanks. So the handle does matter. I thought I read somewhere it should pull back around one-third at the handle. I must go search again to find articles on that.

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post Aug 10 2016, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 10 2016, 05:18 PM)
... one thing about patterns....

people see what they want to see !
see
'sometimes' or many times you would not get the perfect pattern... that's one point.

and nowadays...
trading is more less of a game for many 'quarters'...
for instance...
when Gadang was consolidating/pulling back after its so called 'strong' results...
many eyes was actually watching the pullback...
how the pullback was very important...
but then.... they also are aware that...
any push during this pullback...
would create a 'good' looking enough a cup-and-handle formation...
this would be an 'easy' point for them to push...
market punters would be more than willing to lend them their 'arrows'....
which is why...
any stock can move on up despite its not so perfect pattern formation...
some called this as anticipation.
traders do trade based on anticipation....

for example...
in an likely double bottom formation...
why is it many chose (despite the risk) to base their stock entry on the anticipated 'second' bottom?
is that the proper way to trade a double bottom?
O'Neal's writings on cup and handles are legendary.... i think.
ps: tipsy where la dei. tongue.gif
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Thanks again. Yeah, I am aware that charts can be "made-up" by market participants.

Tip. You must give before you can get. You no give, you no get...

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post Aug 22 2016, 12:02 PM

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In case anyone missed it,

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/h...-mid-cap-stocks

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post Aug 22 2016, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 22 2016, 12:06 PM)
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Check the previous pages.

I have stated clearly my views on it. smile.gif

Check the obvious characteristics of the fallen stocks.
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Yes, I have read your posts. This article states that there was sell down by some institution causing the falling prices. Why they sold, I don't know. Could be similar to your reasons, could be something else.

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post Aug 22 2016, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 22 2016, 12:25 PM)
They might be right.... smile.gif

Any tipsy for me.
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ULICORP? Seemed to move upwards today so far....

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post Aug 22 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 22 2016, 12:40 PM)
good luck to you if you still read ANALyst reports, 80% of them are paid to corner the market for institution gains, or just pure aftermath reporting.

those who cant trade, invest. Those who cant trade or invest, teach/write.

Those who cant do any of the above, con.
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I don't think that was an analyst report. It was a news article. I am aware analyst reports have their own agenda and not always trustable or responsible.

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post Sep 20 2016, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 17 2016, 08:51 PM)
Is there software designed for bursa stocks?

A lot of the software signals are based on technical  indicators.
This is something i am not a fan of. wink.gif
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What sort of software you referring to? I thought you use the program included in your trading platform?

You always post chart, but you don't use technical indicators? What indicator or signals do you use then?

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 20 2016, 12:20 PM)
There are automated trading software out there.
Google.

Nope. I don't use technical indicators.
Take the simplistic rsi.
Tell me...is it reliable?
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So you are talking about a system that actually does the buying / selling automatically. I thought you were talking about some software that gives some sort of indicators or signals different from the normal technical indicators.

Nothing is 100% reliable right? There will be times when RSI may be correct for some stocks and not for others. Plus you don't normally just take one indicator as a guide. Probably need to look at several.

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post Sep 20 2016, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 20 2016, 12:53 PM)
Yes. Exactly. As far as i am aware most software trading signals are triggered by normal technical indicators.
This type of trading I am never good at.
Since i am not good at, I am not a fansi.

Again yes!
Exactly.
This is why technical traders use a combo of several indicators.
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So what other signal / indicators are you looking for apart from the normal technical ones? You seem to be saying there are software that shows other types of indicators. Can you give a term or two so I can search for more info on it? Articles I read all mention normal ones like RSI, MACD etc etc.

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post Sep 26 2016, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 25 2016, 08:14 PM)

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no ini-cators..... laugh.gif
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Tips??

So, did you get in these before prices moved up?
Did you know it may move up before it happened?
Or you just pointing out after it happened?

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post Sep 30 2016, 03:51 PM

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Why can't people just give opinions and have discussions knowing that everyone has different opinions and not everyone will agree with everyone else? There is no need to proove one is better than the other. Just post if you got something to share or don't post if you've got nothing to share. I'm sure everyone here is more mature than a bunch of teenagers.

Is the result of LBALUM yesterday considered good? I see the stock price has gone down a little today even though the result showed a profit. Or aluminium stocks are not favourable at the moment?

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post Sep 30 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:01 PM)
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I am guilty.
The point of the steel play is...
honestly... the rally was too fast too furious.
Which clearly made the weariness of the stocks enduring consolidation....
see... I did not need any indicators to tell me that.
the run up was parabolic-like for the few leading stocks...
hence... weakness was to be expected...

Ah... Good point on LBAlum.
This was spotted few months back by cool dude. smile.gif
Yes, if you ask me, I am positive about the stocks or 'metal stocks' in general.
In fact, i reckon the market hasn't really got up with its good performances ..... yet.
If you refer yesterday, ARank had a nice run too... yes?
why? good results/aluminium related too.....  rolleyes.gif

*part of knowing how to play happy family, yes?

or how about the tin related products?
ps: I can talk about stocks anytime laaaa....
but sometimes...
whenever I talk ...
people think I am giving tips instead.... doh.gif
LOL!
anytime...... if you want to talk......  thumbup.gif
*** ps .... 15 Sep and LBALUM ..... whistling.gif
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We are all guilty. Its what we do about it that counts...

Just share your opinions. If someone takes it as a tip and go buys it and prices come down and they make a loss, it is not your fault as you did not give a tip in the first place. So its not your problem. If I tell you I found a super duper knife that can cut through bones like it was butter and you go buy it to kill someone, is it my fault? Like that nobody can talk about anything. So get over that kind of thinking. I think half the time here when we all say tips etc, mostly we are joking only. Everyone is eventually responsible for their own decision, profit or loss.

ARANK is also down today. LBALUM is ex-date divident today. But its down more than the 2 sen divident. Maybe people selling due to long upcoming weekend.

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post Sep 30 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:41 PM)
Did you see trading on 15 Sep? wink.gif

It gives the impression some group already knew about the good result...
hence... the heavy buying....
and when the result came out.......poooof
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Yes, some group always seems to know before others. Insider trading of sorts I guess.
Maybe also to be entitled to the divident. Have to observe whether there is more upside to come.


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