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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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Vanguard 2015
post Feb 15 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 15 2017, 12:37 AM)
Nope cos it's unreliable.
How could be a starting point when it's an unreliable reference point?
It's just a glorified adjective used by market commentators.
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I still have a lot to learn. sad.gif

I only know the basics of stock measurements such as PE ratio, EPS, ROE, NTA, Dividend Yield, etc.

Hope to learn more from the sifus here.

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 15 2017, 12:46 AM)
Fuhh power. I at max can only focus 2 stock at a time only 👀
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I am a late comer to the party. Have a lot of catching up to do. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 09:57 AM)
Safety margin is measure from [company value against share price] not [Highs/Lows Price against share price]

Low can possibly go lower and High can possibly go higher.

Price is what you pay, Value is what you get.

Buying stock is like going to pasar buy vegetables.
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Of course. We are back to the question of intrinsic value of a company.

On a separate note, what is the right way to build a portfolio? VA, DCA or the Dow Dividend Strategies are some of the popular methods used. Can these methods be used in Malaysia?

I wonder how the sifus here determine the value of a share? Using fundamental analysis or technical analysis or using a combination of both methods?
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This post has been edited by Vanguard 2015: Feb 15 2017, 11:04 AM
zDarkForceSz
post Feb 15 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 10:59 AM)
I still have a lot to learn. sad.gif

I only know the basics of stock measurements such as PE ratio, EPS, ROE, NTA, Dividend Yield, etc.

Hope to learn more from the sifus here.
I am a late comer to the party. Have a lot of catching up to do.  biggrin.gif
Of course. We are back to the question of intrinsic value of a company.

On a separate note, what is the right way to build a portfolio? VA, DCA or the Dow Dividend Strategies are some of the popular methods used. Can these methods be used in Malaysia?

I wonder how the sifus here determine the value of a share? Using fundamental analysis or technical analysis or using a combination of both methods?
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me no sifu, rookie league only.

Mine is actually pretty simple.
Invest in stock = Joining into a business.
Start by picking up a sector in Bursa (Agri, Gloves, Steel, Construction, Property etc.)
Read the quarter report, annual report. You will get alot info here.
Just use those simple stock measurements you know of PE, EPS, ROE, etc. QOQ, YOY.
you think the business is good then invest lo.

Those intrinsic value you speak of varies from person to person.
eg. SOLUTN for me I won't buy if the price is above 0.26.
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post Feb 15 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 10:59 AM)
I am a late comer to the party. Have a lot of catching up to do.  biggrin.gif
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Why would u buy...Magnum sweat.gif

Nowadays almost everyone I know buy from underground innocent.gif

QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 11:32 AM)
me no sifu, rookie league only.

Mine is actually pretty simple.
Invest in stock = Joining into a business.
Start by picking up a sector in Bursa (Agri, Gloves, Steel, Construction, Property etc.)
Read the quarter report, annual report. You will get alot info here.
Just use those simple stock measurements you know of PE, EPS, ROE, etc. QOQ, YOY.
you think the business is good then invest lo.

Those intrinsic value you speak of varies from person to person.
eg. SOLUTN for me I won't buy if the price is above 0.26.
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Wah. Ada orang main warrant brows.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 15 2017, 11:42 AM
zDarkForceSz
post Feb 15 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2017, 11:42 AM)
Why would u buy...Magnum sweat.gif

Nowadays almost everyone I know buy from underground innocent.gif
Wah. Ada orang main warrant brows.gif
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I'm one of them.

Warrant buy small small only. Itu Gambling doh.gif

SOLUTN-WA i buy 0.14 lari 0.205 now 0.240. kantoi puke.gif

This post has been edited by zDarkForceSz: Feb 15 2017, 11:55 AM
Vanguard 2015
post Feb 15 2017, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 11:32 AM)
me no sifu, rookie league only.

Mine is actually pretty simple.
Invest in stock = Joining into a business.
Start by picking up a sector in Bursa (Agri, Gloves, Steel, Construction, Property etc.)
Read the quarter report, annual report. You will get alot info here.
Just use those simple stock measurements you know of PE, EPS, ROE, etc. QOQ, YOY.
you think the business is good then invest lo.

Those intrinsic value you speak of varies from person to person.
eg. SOLUTN for me I won't buy if the price is above 0.26.
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Hi thanks for the reply. For now, I am only buying blue chip stocks...


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2017, 11:42 AM)
Why would u buy...Magnum sweat.gif

Nowadays almost everyone I know buy from underground innocent.gif
Wah. Ada orang main warrant brows.gif
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Eh, I thought it is a good buy. Kenanga say target price is RM2.520 wor. Time will tell.

Boss, can I do trading now with some of my shares? Last time, you taruh me in FSM forum for doing trading in unit trusts. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by Vanguard 2015: Feb 15 2017, 12:05 PM
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 11:59 AM)
Eh, I thought it is a good buy. Kenanga say target price is RM2.520 wor. Time will tell.

Boss, can I do trading now with some of my shares? Last time, you taruh me in FSM forum for doing trading in unit trusts.  sweat.gif
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Boleh biggrin.gif

If share price rose rapidly for no reason (that u know), can dump and take profit lo tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 11:59 AM)
Hi thanks for the reply. For now, I am only buying blue chip stocks...
Eh, I thought it is a good buy. Kenanga say target price is RM2.520 wor. Time will tell.

Boss, can I do trading now with some of my shares? Last time, you taruh me in FSM forum for doing trading in unit trusts.  sweat.gif
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I only see the counter EPS is dropping.
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2017, 12:00 PM)
Boleh biggrin.gif

If share price rose rapidly for no reason (that u know), can dump and take profit lo tongue.gif
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sifu any tipsy for chicken year brows.gif
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2017, 12:00 PM)
Boleh biggrin.gif

If share price rose rapidly for no reason (that u know), can dump and take profit lo tongue.gif
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Thank kiu, thank kiu.

But share trading seems to be a dangerous game. I just found this morning that my trading limit is now X2 of my gross share investment. So in practice, I can actually buy shares with money that I don't have. This is a totally different ball game from FSM unit trust.

QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:03 PM)
I only see the counter EPS is dropping.

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Aiyoh...never mind. Let me hold Magnum for a while and see how it performs.

This post has been edited by Vanguard 2015: Feb 15 2017, 12:14 PM
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:03 PM)
I only see the counter EPS is dropping.
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Yes, that chart scares me.. even though the divvy looks delicious. So no go for magnum.

Dropping revenue, dropping margin and profits. All 3 red flag triggered.

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post Feb 15 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM)
Thank kiu, thank kiu.

But share trading seems to be a dangerous game. I just found this morning that my trading limit is now X2 of my gross share investment. So in practice, I can actually buy shares with money that I don't have. This is a totally different ball game from FSM unit trust.
Aiyoh...never mind. Let me hold Magnum for a while and see how it performs.
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Repeat after me, dont play with those so call free money or commonly known as margin. It is financial suicide if you do not know how to play it well.
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM)
Thank kiu, thank kiu.

But share trading seems to be a dangerous game. I just found this morning that my trading limit is now X2 of my gross share investment. So in practice, I can actually buy shares with money that I don't have. This is a totally different ball game from FSM unit trust.
Aiyoh...never mind. Let me hold Magnum for a while and see how it performs.
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No no. There's something call cash account with only 1x cash with lower commission charges. Mplus, HLEbroking etc.

Up to you money is yours tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 12:36 PM)
Repeat after me, dont play with those so call free money or commonly known as margin. It is financial suicide if you do not know how to play it well.
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"Don't play with those so call unker or commonly known as sifu. It is verbally suicide if you do not know how to play it well."

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 12:33 PM)
Yes, that chart scares me.. even though the divvy looks delicious. So no go for magnum.

Dropping revenue, dropping margin and profits. All 3 red flag triggered.
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the opposite

This post has been edited by zDarkForceSz: Feb 15 2017, 12:47 PM
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:42 PM)
"Don't play with those so call unker or commonly known as sifu. It is verbally suicide if you do not know how to play it well."

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Looks at pink spider...
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post Feb 15 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 12:43 PM)
Looks at pink spider...
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unker feel like buying INCO again leh. But the price...
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post Feb 15 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:56 PM)
unker feel like buying INCO again leh. But the price...
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You too late liao, last month gov approved all other companies to export nickle ore already... So inco position is not so good.

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post Feb 15 2017, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 01:05 PM)
You too late liao, last month gov approved all other companies to export nickle ore already... So inco position is not so good.
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ranting.gif haiz.... another one is BEST i see the counter QOQ improving
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post Feb 15 2017, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM)
Thank kiu, thank kiu.

But share trading seems to be a dangerous game. I just found this morning that my trading limit is now X2 of my gross share investment. So in practice, I can actually buy shares with money that I don't have. This is a totally different ball game from FSM unit trust.
Aiyoh...never mind. Let me hold Magnum for a while and see how it performs.
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How much % interest charge for your margin account?

If the % interest is lower than your expected return, sai-lang je brows.gif


QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:42 PM)
"Don't play with those so call unker or commonly known as sifu. It is verbally suicide if you do not know how to play it well."

blush.gif
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the opposite
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Kalo itu SuperLong hebat sangat, apasal u belum beli lagi? whistling.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 12:43 PM)
Looks at pink spider...
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Apa dry.gif

Aku minum bir dengan unker unker je, manada main-main dengan unker unker? mad.gif

QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 15 2017, 12:05 PM)
sifu any tipsy for chicken year  brows.gif
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Tahun ayam aku luck teruk than tahi, dun ask me sweat.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 15 2017, 01:43 PM
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post Feb 15 2017, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2017, 01:42 PM)
How much % interest charge for your margin account?

If the % interest is lower than your expected return, sai-lang je brows.gif
Kalo itu SuperLong hebat sangat, apasal u belum beli lagi? whistling.gif
Apa dry.gif

Aku minum bir dengan unker unker je, manada main-main dengan unker unker? mad.gif
Tahun ayam aku luck teruk than tahi, dun ask me sweat.gif
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Dont teach newbie to play margin la... You very evil.
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 15 2017, 01:44 PM)
Dont teach newbie to play margin la... You very evil.
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If financial institutions i.e. banks don't make money from them, how economy grow? tongue.gif

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