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yhtan
post Feb 20 2017, 10:43 AM

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post Feb 20 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2017, 01:47 PM)
Boon3

TTB.. the "super" fund manager who has been waiting and waiting for KLCI to crash to 900 points since 2011 ...

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Latest prediction TTB now predicts KLCI will shoot to 2,400 points by end 2017/2018.

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From super bear to super bull... what do you all think? The last bear has fallen... stock euphoria has come?  rclxms.gif

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This TTB kena hantam left right by ah boon and me laugh.gif

But TTB still did not want to admit his mistake by timing the market, he should learn from his sifu - Warren Buffett. One can never know where the market going to head in future

Some more he keep 60%+ cash on hand to wait durian drop laugh.gif

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post Feb 20 2017, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 20 2017, 03:03 PM)
This is absolutely frustrating. All the stocks that I mentioned above (except for Ta Ann) are rising today.

Well, I can't catch them all. Now I am fishing for AEON Credit, Inari Ametron, Ta Ann and United Malacca.
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i see u keep fishing for more stock tongue.gif


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post Feb 20 2017, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2017, 07:32 PM)
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Always good to be optimistic. tongue.gif

Surely...we cannot be damn pessimistic and assume more OSV assets writedown....

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(Ah Tan teacher...teach me how to goreng the batu api)
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I thought u are better in goreng batu api? tongue.gif

But when shit time is over, it could be a good time for them
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post Feb 21 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(CristEG @ Feb 21 2017, 01:01 PM)
Hi all gurus in lowyat,

I'm new in the market and facing a problem that would like to get some advice from you:
I hold a large amount of cash settled warrants (AairAsiaC40), and its gonna expired next week. The problem is that the current price is near to zero (I bought it when its 0.175 >_<) and the trading volume is so low that I doubt there chances for me to sell all those warrants in such a short time. May I know what would be the best way for me to cut my loss to minimum?

Your help or enlightenment is much appreciated!

p/s: I was too busy with my daily job when the price was high and I never set a stop point since I'm new. And as you know the price has been dropping ever since (T_T)
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Try your best to sell it off at 0.5 cent, that is the best way u can do right now

The last date for trading is 23 Feb 2017 05:00 PM and exercise price 3.30.
The chances u will get cash settlement is 0.00001%, i don't see airasia price will get pass 3.30 on the last 5 average days sweat.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:18 PM)
Lol. No. tongue.gif

Expectancy + position sizing.

Trading topic but it makes perfect sense for any investor to incorporate.

In short, it suggests to you how much you should allocate to a stock counter with the risk managed.
Some investors are better off as a trader.
Some traders are better off as an investor.

How will we know what we are?

Well....years and years of fake trading (investing also can).
You? Ah Gark? You can actually be a damn good trader.

I think.
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oh gosh, i am rojak of both doh.gif


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post Feb 22 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM)
Got RM10K cash from credit card at 2.88% flat interest i.e. 5%+ effective rate. Any tipsy?
Took this cash because so far my portfolio returning me IRR of 19%, so I GUESS 5% should be easy to beat

Preferably a stock from my current portfolio

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Matrix Concepts gonna announce results and its quarterly divvy this week. Optimistic?

Unker gark why CPO futures suddenly so bearish? Temporary, or normalisation?
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 10:12 AM)
Tipsy : Never invest with debt.  tongue.gif

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CPO has run too high and too deep, some pullback should be expected. Also USD looks to be weakening in the horizon, so CPO price expect to come down. Even at RM 2,800/ton also most plantation makes money hand over fist already.  laugh.gif
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Yea margin is more feasible, interest 4%++
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:18 AM)
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Doesn't matter ma...
My point is playing with your best skill.
Which means....
Is rojak really your best?
Or maybe investing?
Or maybe trading?

Who knows....
Maybe trading is your best game....

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the problem is i don't know which one is my best sweat.gif

Can help me or not? give me some tipsy will do tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 23 2017, 09:31 AM)
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Surely no tipys for you... tongue.gif

Dunno your best?

Wah.
Don't you review your results?
I am sure you do la.

come on...
this is one the necessity of a trader/investor.

The problem is you need a larger pool of data to be sure...
and unfortunately this can only be achieved doing fake/paper investing/trading/punting.
Doing it with real money is as stupid as it can gets...
cos as we know...
losses is like a virus...
it grows and it grows...
until it totally whacks you out of the game (sometimes... some cases... it can even put one into a lifetime of debts)

But if you don't have...
Try at least look at your last 20 trades...

categorized it under investing and trading/punting....
put in your win/lose rate...

what do you have?
you make more as an investor or trader?

*** see for a trader...
it gets even more complicated...
one needs to study what kind of trading setup suits one etc etc etc etc..... ***
some think all this is a total waste...
but if one doesn't know exactly what is one's specialty skill set.........
how then one is gonna be a long term success in the market ?
Buta buta listen to tips and try here and there?
if fail... hope for a next better tip giver?

how about asking these silly questions...

why that bugger buy stock *** and made tons of money?
why I buy the same stock why I don't make as much?
why most make money in investing, why can't I?
why some can make money from the market daily, why can't I?
why gark is sifu , why I no sifu?
why gark is so hamsome, why isn't I?
why Ah Tan can burn any stones, why can't I?

why?

and why did the ayam cross the road?

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ok, i should do more paper trading here for you to review tongue.gif

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post Feb 23 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Feb 23 2017, 01:19 PM)
you know what, currently it's trading at 0.46xNTA, that means you would grab gau gau?

just to be safe, what else you would look out for?

btw  rolleyes.gif has anyone guess which stock is it already?
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warren buffett has ditch cigar butt method of investing

I also tend to agree that growth company is far more attractive than value trap company
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post Feb 24 2017, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 24 2017, 12:13 PM)
Palm oil is like fruits lah, depends on the soil, weather, rain, fertilizer etc. If good condition, then the fruits will become a lot and big, if not then you get less or smaller fruits.

As last time I said, sarawak soil is mostly peat soil, not so suitable for palm oil, hence they yield is expected to be lesser than other plantation on good soil.

Palm Oil with good soil are in these location.. brows.gif

1. West Peninsular Malaysia (perak region)
2. Sabah (east region)
3. Sumatera (dumai area)
4. Kalimantan (South, east and central area)

look at GenP and Innoprise, Hupseng, UP, KLK.. all have plantation in these area do..
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Johor and Pahang yield not good ah? tongue.gif


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post Feb 24 2017, 02:11 PM

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that uncle touch punya share u all better becareful whistling.gif
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post Feb 24 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 24 2017, 02:13 PM)
We all adults here

No need bring i3 toxic shyte here.

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Ok boss, can help me scan chart? brows.gif

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post Feb 24 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 24 2017, 02:24 PM)
Ah Tan..

I not comfortable with such setups.
It can go badly wrong hor....
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why say so? i saw it trending down with low volume after the recent spike
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 24 2017, 02:34 PM)
Those 2 long candles.....no no. ....
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wanna bet with me or not? i'd say up in future tongue.gif
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post Feb 26 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 24 2017, 06:44 PM)
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why need to talk like this one meh?

you asked me...

I answered:
if u do not understand the above i try again...
see this Ah Tan...
call me...
and said...
buy this one....
sure up one in the future...

my answer...
based on past experiences...
such setup (u know this meaning ah? it means ... this is what the trader is looking at... based on the chart itself)
... and setups...
for some setup... some traders are comfortable... they feel got good chansi to win...
for others setup.... some traders are not comfortable.... they feel got good chansi they might lose

and IN CASE you don't remember...
i dun trade every stock that comes my way...
I am ultra super selective...
cos I trade only 1 or 2 stocks per go...
so I am not gonna itchy backside and bet on every single stock...
see this is not to say all these stocks got no chansi.... in fact sometimes they do...

but I am I...
I play only to what my limited skill sets allows me to...
I am not gonna screw everything that comes my way....
in short...
I dun need to be a hero...

just saying la...
my way...
U dun have to follow

so u understand or no understand the meaning of ...
I am not comfortable with such setup?

and NO I DO NOT WANT TO BET WITH YOU.

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no need...

if I am wrong...
I am wrong...

no die one...
opinions dun kill one...

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Can you see the 2 long candles?

1) the long black candle and its rather high volume?

2) the stock retraced back ...  yes, the volume was lower if compare to the 2 long candles ....
BUT the worry is the VOLUME was consistently higher compared to recent times...

and yes....

I do not like such setups...

accidents can and tend to happens on setups that I am not comfortable with....
there....
done.
Just saying out lout my 3 sen opinion ...
no need to bet one....
if you think I am wrong....
never mind lo...
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 24 2017, 08:28 PM)
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You saw EG's earnings hor...............
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that's the beauty of stock investing/trading, one may have different opinion when looking at chart and figure

Saw that earning, quite decent lah


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post Feb 27 2017, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 27 2017, 10:24 AM)
Dangerous lah.. later all the ikan bilis become roadkill..  sweat.gif

I also wondering if want to invest and get money stuck for years..  unsure.gif

Ah Boon will sure hantam me one for these kind of stock..  tongue.gif

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Not much growth in revenue over the past 5 years sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 27 2017, 11:57 AM)
To all sifus especially Pink Spider, gark and yhtan, I have a question to ask.

I bought Old Town about 3 weeks ago. The price spiked about 30% at one point and today, my unrealised profit is about 25%.

What do you usually do in such a situation? Sell off the share and buy it back when it goes down? As we speak, Old Town is down about 1.65% due to profit taking I believe.

Any view is appreciated.

P/S: The price now is RM2.390 while my targeted price is RM2.490.
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What is your reason for buying Oldtown? use that to apply on your selling as well

FA analysis:-
For me Oldtown profit increasing, cafe business profit didn't decline much and their strength still in manufacturing (Coffee and 3in1). With that increasing profit, i see their net cash is increasing as well, meaning future will pay more dividend. If u enlarge the cafe business profit, u will not invest, but i notice they set up Cafe is to establish their brand.

TA analysis:-
Based on the chart, i can see this stock moving from range to range, if u notice this stock surge from 1.30 to 1.70 then consolidate, 1.70 to 2.10, then now 2.10 to 2.40 recently. If u lack of patience, this stock might not suitable for u.

Correct or not my TA analysis? Boon3 tongue.gif

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post Feb 27 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2017, 03:42 PM)
Cilaka!

Nak batu api me lagi.

Why la u want to drag me into water again?

I so thirsty meh?
Hoi...see tu EG...

You lucky I no like bet bet.... tongue.gif
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No batu api lah, just asking your thoughts on TA icon_rolleyes.gif

I see also sweat.gif doh.gif
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post Feb 28 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 28 2017, 09:00 AM)
Construction companies have nice results

LBS Bina
Ahmad Zaki
Chin Hin

Press Metal lengzai sampai... shocking.gif
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Read carefully on Chin Hin result, there is revaluation gain on investment properties of 13mil
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post Feb 28 2017, 03:45 PM

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told ya that uncle kyy stock have to be wary off

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