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TSReanne
post Dec 4 2006, 04:39 AM, updated 18y ago

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Welcome to the Snake Thread!


The history of Snakes

Most modern of reptiles, the snake first appeared in the fossil record during the age of the dinosaurs. Thought to have been evolved from legless, cylindrical, burrowing lizzards, that grew specialized muscles and scales that changed colours and patterns over the generation to adapt to the world as we see them today.

Some evolved infrared heat sensors to find prey in total darkness, and others developed venom of such exquisite complexity, that they are yet to be manufactured through biotechnology or genetic engineering. Snakes are such remarkable, unique and successful animals that deserve our respect and admiration.

Fear of snakes?(ophidiphobic)


Many people fear snakes. Some through myth, belief and plain bad experiences, and some fear them because they are what they are. Believe it or not, snakes are not as evil as you think. Snakes suffer grieviously due to misunderstanding and irrational thinking. An innocent python could be clobbered to death by a teenager or a harmless striped kukri snake could be chopped in half simply because looked venomous. Through a wider insight and understanding toward these creatures, we can learn to respect rather than resent them.



Snakes Most Commonly Kept As Pets

PYTHONS

Burmese Pythons

[PICTURE : Anyone want to donate a nice burmese picture to display here? PM or email me at reannebunnykiller@gmail.com]

Burmese pythons are cool to have! Right? Wrong.

Are you prepared to have a pet that can grow more than 20 feet and weight more than 90kgs? Not to mention the rats, rabbits, chickens etc you need to buy weekly and cleaning loads of poo for the next, say, 25 years. If you're really lucky, the zoo may accept your burm when you can't take care of it anymore. If not, then you're stuck with it.

If you are prepared for all that, then go ahead.

Being the sixth largest snake in the world, the docile burmese python are constrictors(non-venomous) and males grow from 8 to 17 feet whereas females, being larger than their male counterparts, grow from 13 to 20 feet.

Burmese pythons breed early in the spring months. The females lay 12-100 eggs, gather and coil around them to incubate them. They will lay coiled around the eggs until they hatch. They will never leave the eggs to eat. Once the baby pythons are hatched, they must learn to exist alone and fend for themselves.

Recticulated Pythons (coming soon)

Blood Pythons

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A malaysian constrictor that grows to an average of 5 to 7 feet. They are short but thick bodied weighting 18 to 20kgs. Their average lifespan is 20 years or more. Having a shaky disposition, some bloods can be docile, while some will strike from the slightest disturbance. Therefore not recommended as a beginner snake. Their colouration and patterns are beautifully striking and a must-have for serious snake enthusiasts.

They can produce up to 30 eggs in a clutch. Incubation is similar to the burmese python. They feed primarily on small mammals such as mice, rats, rabbits etc. They can be fussy eaters.

Ball Pythons

A very popular python to be kept as pets due to their very docile disposition and striking colour contrast. They do not grow very long and are similar to the blood python in terms of body type.

Also known as royal pythons in Europe, they can grow between 4 to 5 feet and can weight up to 10kgs. A well-fed ball python will have a nicely rounded body and fed mainly on small mammals and birds. They tend to curl into a ball when nervous, hence the name.

They reach sexual maturity at the age of 3 to 5 years and can produce 4 to 10 eggs per clutch.


Kingsnakes

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Kingsnakes originate primarily from America. Many morphs of the Kingsnakes are available in the pet trade such as the california king, mexican black king, banana king etc. The title 'King' is given to an animal when they have the ability to overpower and eat their own kind. Kingsnakes are highly immune to venom, allowing them to devour venomous snakes such as the rattle snake. Despite their cannibalistic diet, they are opportunists and also consume lizards, rodents, birds, and eggs.

They grow to an average length of 4 to 6 feet. Their lifespan is about 15 to 20 years. They are non-venomous snakes and constrict their prey like pythons. Kingsnakes are generally very docile and make good beginner snakes.

Substrates commonly used
- Beech wood chips
- Newspaper
- BC

Anyone want to add here can PM me. smile.gif


PS : All snakes are recommended to be acquired through CAPTIVE BREEDING. Wild caught specimens are strongly discouraged from purchase.



My Kingsnake

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post Dec 4 2006, 08:53 AM

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Sad case la... only 74 pages in V1 and it has to be closed down due to some childish arguements... alamak... next time settle it personally. cheers...
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post Dec 4 2006, 09:55 AM

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Do keep those personal attacks and grudges thru PMs. Me and Hun would not be hesitate to close any threads and warn those ppl involved. Too much bickering would make ppl visit the thread lesser just as in the Sony thread involving some particular members.
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post Dec 4 2006, 10:40 AM

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Let's start new peeps. smile.gif

Nice caliking there Reanne.. biggrin.gif You're still tempting me, bad bad girl!!
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post Dec 4 2006, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Dec 4 2006, 10:40 AM)
Let's start new peeps. smile.gif

Nice caliking there Reanne.. biggrin.gif You're still tempting me, bad bad girl!!
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Ya, pictures are very powerful. Many are poison into this snakes hobby because beautiful snake pictures.


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post Dec 4 2006, 02:02 PM

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anyone here rear milk snake?care to share some pics??
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post Dec 5 2006, 03:34 PM

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Not me....
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post Dec 5 2006, 06:16 PM

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Thread looks dead geh.. another pic of Bobo chewing on my honey's thumb again.

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post Dec 7 2006, 06:24 AM

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I kena poison by ballies la.... I wan one now...
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Dec 7 2006, 06:24 AM)
I kena poison by ballies la.... I wan one now...
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Poisoned by big fat ballies? biggrin.gif They are cute nontheless. Should promote our local blood python also.
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post Dec 7 2006, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Dec 7 2006, 08:53 AM)
Poisoned by big fat ballies? biggrin.gif They are cute nontheless. Should promote our local blood python also.
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blood phyton not bad aso..just got mine..quite nice..n fatty..lol...
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post Dec 7 2006, 09:06 AM

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Ooohh... I love bloods too. But wouldn't want to keep one because of their temper. Maybe if I want to expand my collection later, maybe will get one. Maybe la! lol biggrin.gif
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a young blood can be tamed fairly easy...sub-adults or adults on the other hand are quite hard to tame
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lol
Now starting small. Want to get either a corn or a ballie. But I think ballie because they are so cute. biggrin.gif Plus... Don't need to keep getting pinkies if I dont have a corn, cuz now the corns are mostly small, but also kena poison by them. No... Ballie first.

I heard balls that are imported from US are better quality in terms of colour and patterns. Is this true?
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QUOTE(pokmaster @ Dec 7 2006, 09:08 AM)
a young blood can be tamed fairly easy...sub-adults or adults on the other hand are quite hard to tame
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But temper hard to predict leh.. last time I still can touch Andrew's Patrick (blood), now he have to handle Patrick with hook leh...

QUOTE(Reanne @ Dec 7 2006, 09:10 AM)
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Now starting small. Want to get either a corn or a ballie. But I think ballie because they are so cute. biggrin.gif Plus... Don't need to keep getting pinkies if I dont have a corn, cuz now the corns are mostly small, but also kena poison by them. No... Ballie first.

I heard balls that are imported from US are better quality in terms of colour and patterns. Is this true?
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Now you got a sleeky caliking, then get a fatty ballie lor.. corn are cute too, but they are fast and stretchy (no I didn't pull Alvin). They can stretch from my shoulder to other people shoulder an armlength away.

About imported ballie, I dunno.. maybe uncle tikus got any idea?
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post Dec 7 2006, 10:13 AM

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yesterday went to 1u PW..saw a quite nice motley corn snake which selling wid RM788..quite long..around 4 or 5 ft..but its mouth cant close..duno y..will plan to get corn snake soon aso..but duno wanna choose which morph..all aso so nice..lol...my blood look very fierce..when i handle it..abit scare aso..lol..but lucky it still tame now..hopefully will always same as time go..
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QUOTE(rickyfan8888 @ Dec 7 2006, 10:13 AM)
yesterday went to 1u PW..saw a quite nice motley corn snake which selling wid RM788..quite long..around 4 or 5 ft..but its mouth cant close..duno y..will plan to get corn snake soon aso..but duno wanna choose which morph..all aso so nice..lol...my blood look very fierce..when i handle it..abit scare aso..lol..but lucky it still tame now..hopefully will always same as time go..
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Give up on your western hognose liao ar? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(suiteng @ Dec 7 2006, 10:19 AM)
Give up on your western hognose liao ar? tongue.gif
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lol..not yet..but currenlty go for corn snake 1st..western hognose later 1st..cos currently many corn snakes on sale..so choose 1 corn snake 1st then only go for western hognose..summore need to buy king aso..sob..pk liao...
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QUOTE(rickyfan8888 @ Dec 7 2006, 10:34 AM)
lol..not yet..but currenlty go for corn snake 1st..western hognose later 1st..cos currently many corn snakes on sale..so choose 1 corn snake 1st then only go for western hognose..summore need to buy king aso..sob..pk liao...
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Ya it hurts your wallet, but a passion is a passion biggrin.gif
I also wanna buy kingsnake... nehhh.. reanne and her pics poisoned me lorrr.r.....
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post Dec 7 2006, 10:47 AM

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yalo..i aso kena poison oledi..look quite nice..aizh..summore now got ppl sell in the forum aso..still thinking wanna get anot..just bought blood..oledi hurt..still got corn..king..n hognose..wa..really...pk...

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