http://www.motorme.my/oh-toh-used-compact-car/

from a motor journalist

ANY Fiesta owner want to comment?

Calling for dares

Buy Mazda2.

I have nothing else to add other than what I have already said numerous time in this forum. Sien already.

True story.....as iam driving ford but not fiesta

u guys need to share as owner experience else other ppl wont hit the same lemon. other people get hit, wont benefit you also.

a simple search will bring thousands of comments about this so-called problem, which it isn't

http://www.wtae.com/investigations/investi...ssions/24333878

http://www.caradvice.com.au/321473/ford-fi...ission-shudder/

AT least in Australia, they are doing this
"Ford Focus, Fiesta, EcoSport warranties extended over dual-clutch transmission shudder"

So has Malaysia.

Fiesta bought before Sept 2012 only come with 3 years warranty. SDAC has since extended the clutch warranty to 5 years.

well, at least that is comforting good to know

There is a 3500 replies thread in this forum, mostly from owner regarding problem about a fiesta that some of it you probably never knew it existed.

would you be so kind and point us to the right direction?


or do you mean here?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3653553/+1040



This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 9 2015, 03:46 PM

Well, the above are what usually discourages people to buy the Fiesta.

Okay, to elaborate even more, WALL OF TEXT INCOMING

The Fiesta in Malaysia is manufactured and assembled in Rayong, Thailand. The company that is bringing in the Fiesta here is Sime Darby Auto Connexion, SDAC for short. While you may see Fiesta in America and Europe and a sexy curvy B-Segment car, in Malaysia the QC isn't as high as let's say -- Mazda. The assembly of the body panels are wider than those in America and Europe as those are assembled in Mexico with high QC. A main issue in a Fiesta is the freakin clutch, a Dual Clutch Transmission, DCT for short. DCT and DSG from Volkswagen are identical as both uses in essence 2 Clutch that alternates between gears. On paper it is drawn out as 1 side have 1st,3rd,5th and the other having 2nd,4th,6th gear. The issue starts where it is a Dry Clutch which doesn't use any lubrication. The problem is that the car will start to judder and shake rather strangely at low speeds (0-40kmh). The judder doesn't start there either, for example you're at a traffic light and you put your Fiesta into Neutral, and you shift it into drive and press the paddle instantly, you're into a bad bad bad bad bad bad time. The car will shake violently as the clutch isn't fully engaged yet and thus the shaking dildo on the road. However, many owners think that changing out the clutch assembly would solve the judder issue like it's some one-off factory defect, but it indeed is the characteristics of a dry dual clutch and has to be lived with. BUT, some owners are saying their Fiesta doesn't judder at all and that the juddering issue is happening by luck. dares Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere here

TO BE CONTINUED (limit reached lol)

This post has been edited by GalaxiasWilliam: Nov 9 2015, 06:09 PM

CONTINUED

For me, I own a 2014 Mk7.5 Ford Fiesta 1.5L Sport Hatchback, registered August 2015. My first "present" was that I found out the trim above the license plate is shaky and wobbly on one side which causes clanking sounds when I tap it. The second "present" I got was that my SA Edward Ong from Trio Mantap, Cheras didn't fill up the car with full fuel as I came to collect the car. My third "present" which is my biggest was when it first juddered. I immediately stopped at the side of the road and called my SA to ask what happened, he said it was "normal" Fair enough, I got into my car and enquired with the fellow guys over at the LYN Ford Fiesta Owner's Group thread and started hacking away and complaining that I got a defective car and what not. To my surprise, everybody told me it's normal and that it has to be lived with. I've since then learnt about how to take care of the clutch and how to maintain the juddering at low speeds and not let it get too out of hand.

I may seem like I'm bashing at the Ford Fiesta, well yes I am BUTTTTTT, I love it so much because of the ride, handling, customizability and the fun when I smoke those fully modded out and "street racer" looking Myvi, Viva, and once even managed to out corner a Mercedes A250 and a 2015 Honda Jazz. I've also since then gotten to know a bunch of awesome cool guys that have thought me how to do lighting mods ( JunJun04035 ) all the way to solving my issue with the head unit not being able to connect to Bluetooth ( dares and Jylova).

As I've told many friends, family, interested buyers, and forumers, DO NOT buy the Fiesta if you just want it to go A to B and don't care about it after that. A Fiesta is a car that forces you to go fast and get speeding tickets, which to me is damn fun to do I also love the car because of it's cornering ability where it outshines a Jazz. The Fiesta is also one not to be messed with when it comes to Lemon parts Although service and maintanence are abit higher than Japanese manufacturers, there are now other third party workshops that offer a good variety of service like BUG | Ford Parts Malaysia and Bengkel Excellent Auto If anybody is interested to learn more about the Fiesta, come over to our thread to ask.

Or you could do something better:


This post has been edited by GalaxiasWilliam: Nov 9 2015, 06:15 PM

Yeah handling is great. Compare to viva & myvi. Gearbox? Vios better.

If you say the juddering is normal then good for you. But I've sat in a Fiesta before and I'm not impressed. I hope that one day when you are carrying your Mother you don't have to explain to her why the jerking and juddering in your new car is normal. And I hope that she doesn't think she brought a 'sor chai' into this world.

Meh.....if I had to have my mother in my car, I'd take the BM, R. Rover or.....S-Max. The Fiesta is for me....and sometimes wifey.

Don't need so harsh here. You may not like the Fiesta, but it's here and people like me are driving it. My mother knows fully on why it judders and reasoning behind it, she isn't so dumb to think that I'm an idiot that doesn't know how to drive. She's the one that told me not to get it in the first place, but now every single time we go out and I'm driving, I want to drive the Camry, but she insisted to sit in the Fiesta. Everything in life varies, you may not like it, but others do. I like the Mazda 2, don't get me wrong but I like to tinker and build up on my car.

Agreed!

I have achieved enough in my life that my mom does not judge me by what car I drive.

I am sad for you that you still need your mom to approve your choice of cars.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 9 2015, 07:37 PM

There u go.

Interested.. i thought the DSG problem only surfaces on TDCI Focus. seems like FoFi is plagued with the same sickness. No chance on updating the TCU firmware or plugging in a ETC to dampen the effects?

Only now you know? Slowpoke by how many years?

Its a dry clutch, it will always exhibit such behaviour at low speeds. Its like a noob L license holder operating your clutch pedal. No TCU update will fix it.

You either live with it and learn to control it with the throttle, or complain and sellcarbuyvios. Automatic dry clutches will never be as smooth as TCs at low speeds.

Guilty as charged.

Only knew it was hard to be accustomed to but did not realized it is referred and labelled as problematic

Well on the plus side at least it's reliable compared to vw

Don't need to pretend as if you don't know anything about this. Seeing the many threads that you constantly post here, the latest news and technological breakthroughs to the latest market news and recalls, you surely should have investigated and read about it. I think it is a matter of creating a new thread just for the sake of for some cheap talk or thrills, rather than the false intention whether you think that the opinion from one person about the problematic transmission of the Ford is for real.

You can dispute as much as you can or say "guilty as charged", though seeing the pattern of your threads here it is not difficult to imagine that it is not a simple case of "guilty as charged".

I thought this was brought up a while ago? New thread to flame?

Interestingly was scouting through some Ford Focus MK3 known transmission issue and seems this guy explains what Dares has mentioned:-
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/mk3-tsb...-explained.html

Additionally, I know AutoConneXion is aware of the Clutch and Software Update (I believe you can claim warranty for the clutch). I'm not sure however they have addressed the input shaft seals on the transmission as explained in the Video from FocusFanatics.com.

Any Ford owners can comment if you have sent your cars back to SC and get it changed?
To get that replaced, you have to dismount the whole transmission and would take a long time to replace the seals.

My 2 cents, they will deny such allegations.

Chillax. I am posting this thread because I believe it is the first time I read it being described as problematic from a local motor journal. I am truly taken aback by such description.

I not that well informed when it comes to Ford really and I will truly be pretentious to say I am.

The only thing I am guilty of is my curiosity and a desire to seek the truth. And I am here to listen to arguments from both sides

Interesting that you can be taken aback by a local motor journal from some unpopular blog when there are many other "reliable sources" that you so often manage to dig out like a champ. Anyway, no problem. You look like you "might" be really uninformed when it comes to Ford rather than the Frenchies.

Are you sure you have not posted a similar thread like this before on Ford's transmission? Nothing in history?

This post has been edited by Dwango: Nov 10 2015, 12:30 PM

I wouldn't say Motorme is unpopular. Many knew them individually -- CBT Online, S4M, Car of the Year, NST-Autoshow, All Bikes Concours and BH Auto. Asking Toh is one of the permanent feature/coumn of the site.

And nope I have not posted a similar thread in the past on Ford 's transmission.