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Investment THE FENNEL @ SENTUL EAST by YTL (V2), Sentul East KL

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post Mar 26 2018, 09:54 AM

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Hi Urb7
The 1200sqft@rm830k... Comes with the bofi kitchen and wardrobe?

Great value for own stay buyers

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post Jun 2 2018, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jun 1 2018, 09:58 PM)
No need la. Around 40cent psf.
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None of the units here below 1k sqft and for RM0,40psf, minimum maintenance fee will be RM400 permonth. I believe it will be detrimental impact for many purchasers.

Was surprise for almost 1k units property, YTL still priced the maintenance fee so high.
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post Dec 1 2018, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 1 2018, 11:51 AM)
I have called to their sales office, the sales representative said don't have these offers and for the remaining unit can make appointment with them to visit the actual unit. Bro, can intro how to get such unit? Don't mind to buy you a drinks
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I suspect these are units owned by ktm (contra from sentulraya deal)
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post Dec 17 2018, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 17 2018, 11:26 PM)
Now this project too lousy people dun want to buy or people like it but can't afford the price tag?
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It is market sentiment issue at the moment. Ytl sold capers and fennels at peak of sentiment. And investors just ignore the fundamental of Sentul.

IMO...in their next launches... They should launch bread and butter product and not those fancy facade.

With exception of very selective location and product... Most developers are struggling to sell.
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post Dec 18 2018, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 18 2018, 12:21 AM)
Bread and butter product I think many developers can do it, they should do most people can't do it..up till today most people still don't have clear image about their masterplan
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Then good luck in selling.

The market has show purchasers unwilling to pay anything beyond price point rm800k at this location. Whether it is iconic building and ytl or not. The demographic here simply cannot support such price point. And for outsiders.. There are so much choice with better branding/location out there.

Just compare it with Southbrook which already 7788 sold out despite not launched at the peak 2012-14.

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post Dec 18 2018, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 18 2018, 01:47 AM)
not a fair comparison.

southbrookes was seen as the lowest psf amongst the newest condos in dpc.

this fennel is the other way.
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I am referring to the price points... Whether what is the price relative to the surrounding.. That's another story. As more factors play into consideration.

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post Dec 19 2018, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 19 2018, 02:49 PM)
Dun forget ytl sentul lands sre all piece n pieces.
The synergy is just not there.

And i agreed that ytl didnt hit the iron while it was hot

Now bang head also boh use jor

P/s - ytl sentul land developed only 30%?
Sure boh?
Sentul east all developed already
Sentul west i think remain 1 or 2 parcels only.
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there are still a lot of land undeveloped in Sentul East & West.... Just check their masterplan.
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post Dec 19 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 19 2018, 09:45 PM)
Unless you talk abt redevelopment of the park as well.

I know the madterplan got 4 blocks of condos each in east n west.

East named after spices  n all lsunched already....4 typed of spices.

West also got 4 types...not sure msple represent wat but 3 more to go.

The rest are commercisl...the D series. Plus performing art center n etc.

So if what had lsunched n completed only 30%...then ytl sent got long way to go.
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The park itself... It is just 35acres out of 200acres in sentul west. And now they only have maple and sang suria. Go figure...

With Sentul East... The Landbank is approximately 100acres. Should be at least 50—60‰ land remain undeveloped.

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post Dec 21 2018, 05:19 PM

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If you buy landed in DPC from 2005-2009, you are probably few visionaries that really bought into the concept and willing to pay the premium. Hence you were rewarded generously.

I remember many forumners (even the seasoned) compared DPC to development like BU or SEP.

In any cases, not fair la compare Condo Versus Landed.

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post Dec 21 2018, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 21 2018, 07:44 PM)
visionary or just pure luck that popety market hit a bullrun?
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Any other prop that quadruple?

Then again I think only Zenia selective type hits such height.



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post Dec 21 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 21 2018, 08:01 PM)
where got quadruple even zenia?

300% yes....at its height
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If just 300‰, saffron and tamarind also hit the same la... Developer price rm220k now rm650—700k subsale.
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post Dec 21 2018, 08:07 PM

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In any cases... Kaper, Fennels are sharing similar fate with 90‰ of new launches 2012—14...they are not isolated case la.
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post Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 27 2018, 02:58 PM)
I also scratch head and balls.....

Fh, iconic buildings blardi near kul city centre  sell cheap also no one wants....

How cheap is cheap enuf to move?

Now already as cheap as 650psf rite????

500psf can move?
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It is about absolute price. Too many investors too fixated with psf.
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post Dec 28 2018, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 28 2018, 04:42 PM)
close to 1400sq, 2beds nia and small wet kitchen????????

anywhere I hope the house will grow on you. human can adapt wan lah…..the bigger you get, the more you want.
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Check the foyer and balcony...

Iconic building.. Sometimes layout is not efficient

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post Mar 4 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 4 2019, 02:21 PM)
How to be great for ownstay when yr house value is in depreciating situation?
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Why you equate house value with living quality?

An appreciating house is not equate to good living quality...


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post Mar 4 2019, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 4 2019, 04:27 PM)
things change people change

when you buy a house even for own stay but depreciating in value, if in any unforeseen circumstances you need to move on with your life and need to sell it today,,,,,

how will you feel????? still feel blardi good for own stay?
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Own stay criterias and investment are different. Are you sure when you bought your previous props you are guaranteed of making money?

If you manage to find a property that tick all list, then it is good for you. But I think most will end up analysis paralysis because they have so much criterias to tick. End up is no action.

Sometimes when you do not know what you want and read the forum, it can be even more confusing.
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post Mar 4 2019, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 4 2019, 10:34 PM)
Not guarantee make money but nobody wants to own a property that depreciate its value compared to purchase price. It doesnt nean own stay is ok....lose money nevermind....

But you never know you might need to sell yr 'own stay' property ...thats what i said.

How many people advertise here said what migrate lah, foubd overseas job lah and other embarrass reasons which they didnt say bit said want to sell their so called own stay property.

These days if you buy new off the plan, the construction period is 4 to 5.5 yrs. Nobody knows what could happen in 5 yrs time.....to say its for ownstay is a long shot.
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What you said is easier said than done... You should ask yourself when you buy own stay whether making money is high on the list...

I must say the property boom on 2008-12 were giving misconception to many aspired home seekers that buy property must able to make extraordinarily money upon VP. The priority is to find a prop within your budget and take the list which is your priorities.

But that was the past. The question is now. I think at this price range, Fennels is good value for own stay.

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post Mar 6 2019, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Mar 6 2019, 05:55 PM)
Do people really buy such places in Sentul and think it is a luxury/high end place they are buying into??

Thought most had already learned on buying high end places at Segambut Dalam.

Nice building but wrong location.

Also good luck when it starts to age and subsequent contractors hired for the upkeep doesn't share the same vision as the architect or project designers.
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The fennels is rm600-700psf product.Sentul is definitely not high end place like MK, Hartamas, KLCC etc. Hence the rental wise is definitely not attractive due to the demographic issue.

Most of the medium cost apartment in OKR, Subang, PJ, already at this range if not exceeded.

But did condos in these areas give similar offering (facilities, finishes, facade etc) with similar pricing.

My view is if own stayers can accept Sentul East location, The Fennels is representing good value and proposition.



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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Mar 6 2019, 06:44 PM)
Myhabitat / horizon are some the examples.
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Are these priced at rm600-700psf?
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 8 2019, 08:08 PM)
10yrs old condo and 20yrs landed ppl already not interested in buying......said what too old and dated

Yes gym packed and etc....so what is the point here???

Owners throwed rental prices and breed every month so that tenants can enjoy the monthly angpoh.....
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On fair side... Most new launches from 2013 wouldn't able to make decent gain.

However the Fennels was quite overhyped... And owners probably over expected...



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