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post Sep 17 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(KT8718 @ Sep 16 2017, 03:19 PM)
Anyone attached with HSBC? My friend received offer as band 5. Any idea on band 5? Is it good to progress further at HSBC?
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HSBC or HDPM?

There is band 0 - 8. Lowest is 8. Band 5 min salary is 11k. Benefits differ greatly depends on you r on as HSBC or HDPM

QUOTE(nooby999 @ Sep 16 2017, 07:01 PM)
if not mistaken is assistance vice president (avp) position....I heard that got 1.3 k allowance every month and 30 days leaves ...is it true?
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Depends you are HSBC or HDPM. If in HSBC a band 5 can be called analyst, assistant manager etc not necessarily AVP.
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post Sep 17 2017, 10:41 PM

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Edit :feeding troll and "phd" while leaking company info is dangerous.

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post Sep 17 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Sep 17 2017, 10:44 PM)
U working there ah? you better be real sure about what you typing.....
Coz, I can tell you you're crapping full swing.band 6 7k???OMG
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I am in there so who is the one that is crapping? whistling.gif

Also...there is no so call external title as AVP just because is band 5. Get your facts correct. A band 5 will be called AVP in HDPM but also can be called as senior business manager if its in the management. If in the HSBC, a band can be assistant manager if its in the credit dept but also can be manager if in the trade dept. Its just a title..no so called if outside will be call AVP.

blatant bullshit that doesnt know but only "know" ppl there.
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post Sep 17 2017, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Carlyle Kid @ Sep 17 2017, 10:48 PM)
Please find me a band 5 with the title analyst/assistant manager or avp. The above 3 are band 6 titles.
stop lying around la. testing ur knowledge, whats a band 7's usual title?

We're talking abt HBMY/HBMS here la. not HDPM. maority in HDPM are 7/8. Band 5/6 there are "big shots"
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Too bad

In HDPM band 6 is manager, band 5 is AVP. Band 6 is "big shots" OMG...my dept literally got 10 "big shots". OMG OMG OMG its big news need to report in newspaper tomorrow.

You don't know there is band 5 with analyst title? You don't have knowledge but want test people knowledge?

Nowadays this thread full with people with "PHD" that know every single inside and outside of every organizations. So pro..I respect.
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post Sep 22 2017, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Sep 22 2017, 02:50 PM)
Normally in Jobstreet if the job posting put salary as "MYR 8,000 - 15,000", then what is usually the salary they will pay?

And what is the best way to put expected salary  to them? Max it at 15k?
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8k...the rest is just there to entice people to apply. Unless you are really what they wanted and die2 wants you, then maybe higher.

If you are applying to that job solely, just max it. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Sep 25 2017, 10:53 AM)
That's about rm250k per year! So lucky guy.
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Average only. If count nyc specifically then abit low side but still ok

QUOTE(TheRealist @ Sep 26 2017, 07:51 AM)
That's not high by American standard. How about income taxes and other taxes?
Rental is going to cost around usd2k-3k already. Unless you share a very shabby apartment.
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No..rental doesnt cost that much contrary to popular beliefs unless u die2 wan to rent in near high class places.

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post Oct 18 2017, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 17 2017, 12:41 AM)
Agree.

However, you can always make yourself more difficult to replace so that your company will think twice before kicking you out (due to downsizing or office politics etc), and even if the company kicks you out, you will have no fear coz there's a new job waiting for you-- the competitor is more than happy to hire you, or you are smart enough to start your own.

Yes, you can replace the CEO, but it may come with a heavy price. A very good example of this is the case of Steve Jobs. Some bit of Apple history here:

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The blue ocean strategy doesn't totally eliminate competition, but it can significantly reduce the amount of blood shed while fighting for $$$ and opportunities in the real world. Another example is AirAsia, if you want a local one. Yes, you can have another low cost airline to replace AirAsia, but is it easy to do so? How much time will it take? How much will it cost?

Another 2 local examples are Mydin and Mr DIY.

Mydin started as a small wooden kedai runcit in Kelantan by a poor Malay family, but decades later, it's now called MYDIN Mohamed Holdings Berhad with an annual turnover of about RM3 billion. Mr DIY started its business in 2005, and now, 12 years later, 300 stores and explanding to Brunei and Thailand. Its annual revenue is RM 1 billion+.

The same strategy can apply to your career and at workforce. You can make yourself unique (highly specialised at work; award-winning; consistently high KPI; proven track record with rich experience) that it's hard to replace you. Only dumb companies will throw away elite staff to hire those substandard ones (unless there are really some serious issues). There are some employees that companies need to protect (known as "core employees") coz they are the cash cows. Companies can't just simply fire/dismiss/retrench them without milking them first, and even if companies do, they need to make sure the new cows can produce the same quality and amount of milk as the old cows do.

Lastly, what do AirAsia, Mydin and Mr DIY have in common? Low cost, high value.

That's what consumers love...  and employers love too.
This is called value innovation in the blue ocean strategy.
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U forgot to quote the 10m businesses which have low cost high value but failed too. Anyway here is share salary thread.

Discusion for sth like this shud be in another thread.
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post Nov 2 2017, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Marine.Umi @ Nov 1 2017, 10:15 AM)
May I confirm the salary calculation for the month of September 2017.

Example:
Employment Status: Permanent Staff
Salary: Monthly
Period of Work: 05 September 2017 - 30 September 2017  (26 days)
Basic: RM1,000.00

May I know what is the formula to calculate the salary for the above staff?
Based on my HR knowledge, the correct formula is basic/no of day in a month x no. of days worked. (1,000/30x26 days)

But, one of my old single lady boss insisted and forced me to accept her formula:

basic/26 x 22 days (26 - 4 Saturdays).

really pissed me off!
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No.ur formula is wrong. Most standard salary calculation is basic/24-26 in here. Outside msia i not sure.
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post Dec 11 2017, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 8 2017, 05:47 PM)
this thread seems to over exaggerated and tok kok...
bet 70% is fake...
jus my opinion..
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Just my opinion but it seems u never went to the real world. Do you think ppl earning RM1k to 2.5k and have to slug their life off to earn the money will be free to post in this thread? Do you think every single msians log into lowyat and post?

Also have u take into consideration of industry, places and etc?

Just FYI, there is another thread where ppl are complaining the low paying job and bad employers.

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post Dec 29 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Avatarless @ Dec 28 2017, 09:51 AM)
Yup, I was quite frustrated when it comes to wages and benefits. Like what you guys said, volunteer job. My boss says engineers with wages of RM2k above do not entitled with OT pay lol wtf? Its totally based on company and I am unfortunate enough to be in this company which "follows" the employment act to avoid "extra expenses".
But I don't think there is another company which can offer me job scope like this already. As a fresh I think I put experience first.
Any System Integrator (SI) companies around to intro?
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Run. Amyone who ask u to stay is idiot.

There are alot of companies out there that can provide what you wanted!
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post Jan 2 2018, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(smallyfry @ Jan 1 2018, 12:17 AM)
Job Title : Senior exec
Job Desciption : Business Operations
Years spent in company : 4 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Electronics
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-Senior
Experience before joining : 1 Yr
Highest paper qualification/ education background : M. Sc
salary : RM 7500 with RM1500 housing allowance
Location: KL

I am 30 year old, was an engineer before promoted to this position. Kinda feel bored, should I become an engineer back n earn lower salary?
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If u r single without commitment, why not? but then think carefully if you want to work the same position until u retire or u want to go forward further in the future before making decision.

Anyone in this forum can make decision for you but what happens then will they take the responsibility for you?
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post Jan 19 2018, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(RoxasXlll @ Jan 15 2018, 11:12 PM)
Job Title : M&E Engineer (consultant)
Years spent in company : 2.5yrs
Company : Local
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior Executive?
Experience before joining : 1yr
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
salary : RM 4,300
Location: KL
Age : 27

Consider low?
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if not in kl/penang/jb then its high. If in those places, okok only.
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post Jan 28 2018, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 28 2018, 01:13 AM)
Job Title : digital marketing sales executive
Years spent in company : 2 months
Company : Local
Industry : Travel
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Probation
Experience before joining : 5 years+ (IT line to Travel)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
salary : RM 2200 + allowance (rm280- must hit target also to get) + commission
Location: Ipoh

I just resigned from my previous company that offered me to become a team leader (soon asst manager) but I declined. I spent 5 years in my previous company 😔

Currently at this travel agency (focusing inbound, fit + online sales). So far no sales and Tbh I don't have any motivation at all. It all seems bleak to me. Is the salary very low ? The offer wasn't so good  but I was struggling with the politics in my last company therefore I resigned without any option.

I am looking for a new job coz I can't cope with the salary. My previous company I could make at least rm4k with commission. I am basically surviving with my basic -epf (rm1.8k) now.

I am even thinking to change to a different industry and try different position. Any advise ? Should I give the travel industry a try ? Thnx
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Salary too low even if its Ipoh. How old are you? If less than 35 just try changing things until you are good.
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post Jan 28 2018, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 28 2018, 10:21 AM)
Yes. I might even go for sales industry because I don't think there is any office based work that has good offer. Is there anyone from Ipoh ? Feel like a loser here. Majority in lowyat <25 has better income than me. I can't go to KL due to family issue  cry.gif
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Most here are KL, Penang which has higher income ratio or other countries la...very less people post for Melaka/Kedah/Perak one.

What family issue makes u stay at ipoh. I think for Ipoh max would be 7-8k but average around 3-5k if not business owners or high level managers. Just jump till you found job that you happy in salary and mentally.

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