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 Setia Alam V2, Township project in Shah Alam

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samkps
post Oct 1 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 1 2018, 03:05 PM)
1st eco botqnic
2nd eco sky

There is eco apa commercial or warehouse near EG.

Eco spring

And some more eco apa apa near penang ikea there also.

I think they also have one apartment project in penang island....
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EcoSky is township huh? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 1 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 1 2018, 03:47 PM)
If you’ve been to any of their township, you’ll be amazed with their quality of landscape work. EA phase 1 handover should be next year while mine phase 2 will be 2020
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Security and landscape works by EW are superb, no question on that. The main problem now is how they shape the growth of a township, still can't see their potential.
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post Oct 1 2018, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 1 2018, 03:04 PM)
Friend of a  friend
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Then validity still questionable woh... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Oct 1 2018, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Hisham8686 @ Oct 1 2018, 05:08 PM)
If you have been to EA recently, Ardence lab is doing very well indeed. If it's a public holiday, it's always a struggle to get a car park at Ardence Lab.
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Just wondering if Ardence lab is the benchmark for a successful township? hmm.gif Those projects without EW lab is considered not successful?

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post Oct 2 2018, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 1 2018, 09:31 PM)
Wat is your definition of towmship?

Seperate post code?

Or mere housing estate?
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Fulfill most daily needs.. Can attend school and pump petrol at EcoSky? devil.gif
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post Oct 2 2018, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(garygan @ Oct 1 2018, 10:11 PM)
maybe some of them are making losses (https://www.brickz.my/transactions/residential/johor/iskandar-puteri--nusajaya-/eco-botanic/landed/):
SPA Date Address Building Type Tenure Floors Rooms Land Area Built Up Price Psf  Price
14/03/2018 ✕, JALAN EKO BOTANI 2/23 SEMI-D FREEHOLD 2 5 5,137 ft² 2,713 ft² 448 2,300,000
19/12/2017 ✕✕, JALAN EKO BOTANI 2/12 SEMI-D FREEHOLD 2 5 2,450 ft² 2,713 ft² 420 1,030,000
24/05/2017 ✕, JALAN EKO BOTANI 2/23 SEMI-D FREEHOLD 2 5 3,200 ft² 2,713 ft² 563 1,800,000
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Thanks, what is the developer launching net price?
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post Oct 2 2018, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 1 2018, 09:44 PM)
Not the benchmark.

Marketing nia n get ppl to go there n get ascustomed to the place. Start building the relationship b4 move in.
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Then what's the different developer organizing event and ask people to go and build the "relationship"? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Hisham8686 @ Oct 1 2018, 10:11 PM)
Not a benchmark for a successful township, but a barometer for the ability of a township to attract crowd and whether the township itself is capable of being self sufficient. These are some of the prerequisite of a successful township in addition to good accessibility to major highways.
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If it is a barometer, how come EW only selectively doing it in certain projects but not all?

I presume EA is located in a semi-matured area (not a new area), it has been reflected clearly in the sale price of the products. The Ardence Lab doesn't really indicates the capability of EW in shaping the growth of EA, although it shows one their commitments in doing so.

Hopes the sales of EA units can keep up the momentum, else the residents will "stuck" with the Ardence lab only for a long period.
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post Oct 2 2018, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 12:01 PM)
subang jaya is a township
Puchong is a township

a housing estate inside Puchong is not a township.
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Okay..

Cheras is a township
Kajang is a tonwship

Mahkota Cheras, Sungai Long, Bandar Tun Hussein Onn is not a township... devil.gif
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post Oct 2 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 12:22 PM)
follow postcode is easier.

instead of own interpretation.

nanti 50acres housing estate also township, 500acres housing estate also township, 5000acres of housing estate also township.
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Well, up to your own interpretation. Postcode is created by human as well, mainly I presume is to calculate the delivery cost and goods/mail distribution, not to classify a township laugh.gif laugh.gif

If based on postcode to classify a township, Puchong itself many townships leh..... brows.gif brows.gif

https://www.excard.com.my/PDF/Postcode%20Li...ng%20Valley.pdf



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post Oct 2 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hisham8686 @ Oct 2 2018, 12:53 PM)
Any commercial development to be undertaken by the EW management within their township is subject to approval by local authorities and also the catchment area of the specific location. As to why those Labs are not available in other townships, there could be a myriad of reasons and it is imprudent to speculate from my side without substantiating my claims.

If price were to be taken as a yardstick for maturity of a township, then your argument does not hold any water, some of townships by EW are way more expensive than EA albeit located in a sub-par location with sub-par accessibility and land titled.

I do agree with you however that EA is located in a semi matured area as it is part of Setia Alam, it is not a standalone development, this is reflected by the purchaser profile of EA. But to say that EA residents will be "stuck" with Ardence labs is unwise, there are plenty of options that are upcoming in this area, EW is wise in having the first mover advantage in attracting the crowd and tenants first before the other commercial developments in the area.
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Personally I do agree there could be some undisclosed reasons for the lab concept not to be introduced in all EW projects. Nonetheless, the implementation of the lab concept in a certain project cannot be used as a yardstick to ascertain the capability of the developer in shaping the growth of a township project.

It is perfectly fine for EA to target SA residents for upgrade, but it has very little relation on its capability to shape the development of a township, which is the the center of the whole discussion. EA residents are "fortunate" (although it is already reflected in the unit pricing) because they can still tap on other people amenities within Setia Alam area regardless EW will continue developing EA post Ardence Lab. What happen to EW other projects in the new area where the residents are relying on them to develop the township, instead of just "tapping in" to current existing amenities?

Personally I do not aware any EW project with maiden launch in so called "sub-par" location in Klang Valley would have a higher pricing compare to EA units. Appreciate if you can enlighten. Eco Sanctuary units might be within the same pricing range but it is mainly due to the complicated land procurement process with MBI and Dijaya a few years back. The bare land price is recorded at a whopping RM 35 psf, compare to average price of RM 8 - 10 psf in the surrounding area during that time. EW is "forced" to develop a "luxury landed township" in that small piece of land. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Oct 3 2018, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(garygan @ Oct 2 2018, 11:09 PM)
Post #17 (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2969348/all)
32×70 is 850k+(net) = RM380psf;
i think depend on their entry price.
1ft hand should make profit.
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Thanks.. But one unit reaching about 2 mil? Something fishy there..
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post Oct 8 2018, 10:09 AM

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Bank lelong units of Seri Jati starting 270k.. DSL starting from 690k...


https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5596...or-for-RM270000

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5591...or-for-RM690000

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5590...or-for-RM815000
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post Oct 8 2018, 11:49 AM

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Wait for few rounds can drop to 200k + perhaps?
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post Nov 6 2018, 05:07 PM

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SEP 1.5 floor bungalow bank lelong unit, starting 2.8 mil..

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5622...r-for-RM2800000


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post Nov 7 2018, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 7 2018, 10:45 AM)
original price 1.3xmil nia, somemore got dibs paid only 5%.
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First round mah, can wait few round..

Avilla if not mistaken launched in 2009 1.3 mil.. now subsale asking 2.2 - 2.3 mil..
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post Nov 7 2018, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hisham8686 @ Nov 7 2018, 03:59 PM)
Have to wait three more rounds before this becomes an attractive proposition.
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This unit located at U13/21Z.. should be much bigger land area / buildup than the entry level Avila. Therefore, I don't think the developer price is only 1.3 mil though..

SA mentioned market price is 3.35mil...

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...f=ls%7C%7C9%7C2


This April, subsale recorded in brickz for a unit in U13/21X is 3.6mil...

https://www.brickz.my/transactions/resident...co-park/landed/

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post Nov 7 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 7 2018, 04:12 PM)
Samkor yr 1st link info for 3.35m, thats the wider bungalow 2s (footprint for width is 45'.
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I think SA put wrong picture nia... description is 1.5 storey..

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post Nov 7 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 7 2018, 04:09 PM)
The price has been stagnant since 2012.

I sold mine chip chip at 2.05mil. Camelia end lot.
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2.05 mil for end lot Camellia (zero-lot bungalow) not chip chip already.. Congrate for able finding the lou chan... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Nov 7 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 7 2018, 04:21 PM)
Phase 9 only have bungalow proper, no zero lots.

I sold my zero lot much higher price.
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Camellia not in phase 11?

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