Kiara Residence 2 @ Bukit Jalil v3


For more information and the details of the project back in 2012, kindly click the below link


v1 - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1816815

v2 - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2447304


3 years had passed since most of us had signed the S&P, it's one the last project that enjoying the DIBS scheme and affordable pricing at RM 400 psf ono ....

It's now VP time .... let's discuss the defects, workmanship, trolling, buy, sell, rent and etc here ....

Thanks, Chris , for creating v3 for discussion.

The area of my unit as per vp letter is 134.58 sq m, including carpark

One carpark should be 124 sf or 11.52 sq m if I am not mistaken and the calculation is correct if I add 2 carpark size to my actual unit area.

So, for my unit
134.58 x RM 2.15 x 4 = RM1157.39

Anw, I do hope service charge can be reduced in future when JMB is formed.

This post has been edited by SAHM: Oct 30 2015, 09:14 PM

Great journey...

Hi SAHM, thanks for clarifying.

I think 124 sq ft car park is quite decent size. Looks big for a car park, will try to measure it when I take VP. Lol.

Btw, is ur unit is Type C 1457 sq ft or Type B something with extra garden or double lanai?

late check in ~

thanks Chris... my maintenance fee turned out to be rm270/month including carpark.. plus sinking fund rm297.. hope fee won't increase after JMB is formed

Tower C also can VP liao?

You are welcome.

Car park - hope it is a decent size, lol.

My unit is the 1201 sf, double lanai type. High floor. Not sure whether it is called type A2? Tower 2.

Twin Kor, u are back.

Hmm, RM 297 for ur unit is stg around our Zest anyway. I dont think the fee would increase gua, bcz I feel the Management Fund would be very rich and thats a cool idea of all owners to pay 4 mths in advance bfore take key.

Macam mana? Rent out ur unit?

Yes. All one shot.

do some simple fixture, lights and fan, and should be ready to rent out
so what is your game plan?

you are right.. Zest is about that figure too

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Oct 31 2015, 09:39 PM

Any idea whether the new road is opened now or we still need to go in from OUG?
Thanks.

Any nice photos to show? Tried the LRT today and saw the condo from the train. Looks good.

New road is officially opened dy, but make sure u must be careful because traffic light not working yet.

Hmm, I consider to flip one or rent out both.

Bcz, I think reno a bit doesnt costs very much since the kitchen cab, hob and hood, 5 air cons already there, just thought to add plaster ceiling, lighting, and some furni if f/f bcz I found a jalan from a closed agent, who had Japanese expats looking for big size, full furnished and as long as no Korean brand, willing to offer RM 2.5k or higher and 1 shot pay 6-12 months rental advance, tempted.

wa.... boss you seem have lot of lobang all the way la, need mazai or not ? i volunteer.. hahaha

finally new version

Any owner here wish to rent out the unit
Please let me know
Looking to rent at this area
Thanks

Rent and buy later...

Ya noone opened a new version.

Should have let u be the TS.

What size u intend?

Maybe Type A owners should be a lot for rent. Big sizes like Type C, 1457 sq ft onwards majority own stay.

Oppps someone post so fast kena report ytd nite and removed by moderator. Thought wanna replied the comment also cannot.

Chris Gor,
Is there any Type A unit facing the highway?
Is KR2 using double glaze glass on their windows since it's near to highway ?

Anyone managed to make appointment to collect key?

Yes. Definitely bcz Type A consist half of the 720 units.

There are 2 units each at Tower A and B facing highway. Both intermediate units. KR2 not using double glazed glass.

Oic...I thought all unit are corner unit?

Hmm. Ya its corner but I mean, a tower ( Tower A and B only ) consists 4 units facing highway, Type C A A B. So I consider C and B is real corner. Lol.

oic. thanks for the info

View from Awan Besar LRT station.


Attached thumbnail(s)

Looks like within a walkable distance.

Should be around 450 metres from the main entrance of KR2.

new version , VP new condo

i am schedule to VP get the key on 19 NOV,
specially select 19th NOV, who will be going too ?

Congratz.

U r consider one of the earliest to get key bcz 19th is the first day for all buyers with loans. Cash buyers taking keys now.

Those who with loan released now or pending payment to management, probably have to wait till early Dec unless Tower C, notice many slots available on the last week of Nov.

So, own stay or selling?

Checking in and congrats bro

Look awesome. Congratz all buyers.

for keeping mistress

I damm admire your capability. Hahaha.

How's much is the targeting rental here?

1.8-2k??

I think quite subjective bcz got pro and con. Con being too many units and facing competition from KR1 and ZR balance units for let, esp KR1 being the cheapest can always ask for lower than both. Pro being, the benefit of the new road opened up which really enhance the convenience and LRT just operating right now.

I believe basic units should be around RM 1.50 psf while f/f may vary from RM 1.85 to RM 2.00 psf.

Vested here?

Btw... Your nick sounds familiar.

I got offer RM1400 for smallest unit.. facing LRT track.. Partly Furnished...

IMO, too low. Maybe u wait around 1 month and see?

oh nope, I mean owner offer me 1400Rm to rent his unit..

That is indeed a very good offer for u. Lol.

Cheaper than KR1 and even cheaper than The Zest.

Yeah, KR 1 lowest I found is Rm1500

Rental market could be tough to give neutral or positive cashflow due to supply is long in BJ

This supply demand imbalance will persist for long time...just my worthless 2 cents

Until 2018 at least imo. And possibly until 2020. It's not going away anytime soon. Need strong holding power.

Incoming in that area like Casa Green, Rainz etc will make it worse.

This post has been edited by ivanpei: Nov 13 2015, 05:13 PM

Its give and take offer. VP only by earliest 19th, so fast approaching tenants for rental. Could be either cash buyer ( took VP ) or willing to put low price to sniff away the competition in next 2 months.

If I am the owner, I oso could be doing the same bcz extra RM 100-200 is not much in the 12-24 mths term but secured early tenant would be the key of any investment. It at least can cover most of the interest for bank installment. Not required to spend so much to do reno for partly furnished unit since most important furnishes already provided.

The rental market in BJ and SP basically has been stagnant for quite some time, definitely hard to see price hits RM2/psft, in the near future.

This post has been edited by Clement1001: Nov 13 2015, 06:20 PM

any house owners here? if with 600k budget should i get kr2 or zr? its pretty much between this 2 choices for that area? since km1 is going for 800k.

im looking to buy and str8 move in to stay. so im not looking at on going projects like parkhill, twinarkz or link2.

or should i rent for maybe another 6-12 months if its not a good time to buy house.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Nov 15 2015, 11:49 AM

Hmm, KM1 West dropped to RM 800k dy? But KR2 or ZR really unable to compare to KM1, better location in terms of higher land, better view and more convenient walking distance to some amenities in The Link's shoplots.

It's buyer market now, you can choose to buy now or later also nvm. ZR already completed more than a year, perhaps not much increase btw now and 6 months later, I suggest you to wait some owners of KR2 VP first, then ask agent to take you for a tour of KR2 small unit and find out the asking price. By then, maybe you can weigh ur options for either KR2 or ZR.

IMO, RM 600k for KR2 now is damm good bcz it can be RM 650k after VP due to more demand and KR1's 1050 sq ft ( same type ) already many units sold and transacted via this price, but also I notice would be more small units on market due to 360/720 units in KR2 are 1073 sq ft, included those with double balconies or extra land.

well my question was, assuming at same price, is zr (1.2ksf) or kr2(1.1ksf) btr. or its up to preference. also will there be a similar option open up soon.

also i notice kr2 is leasehold, zr is freehold. ive already been to zr and km1 few times with owners looking to sell. havent been to kr2 yet.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Nov 15 2015, 12:44 PM

Beside those factors by all taikors mentioned above, I may want to add one which is your feeling and the unit layout and these are very subjective. I believe if for own stay, the feeling is very crucial as you won't be staying for a short period. Some condo you just won't feel right when you first enter and some you may just fall in love at the first sight. But for investment that will be different stories liao...location, FH ot LH, new or old etc...

Just saw a lelong notice yesterday at mamak shop near zr... Zr 1.4+sf LEONG price only 500+k. Manyak desperate wanna sell. U can slow slow choice n bargain the price. Around the mamak shop manyak bunting, hanger, notice wanted sell Zr. Rental also jialat Liao....the info Can check on Cariforum property section. Some able to rent cheap cheap around rm1k+ for their staffs to stay. Lucky not bangala staffs. Just call look see and compare. Of coz Kr location better. Short walk to lrt station. Zr still too high density Over 1k+ unit. Kr1 or 2 mostly 400+- units only If not wrong.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Nov 15 2015, 01:38 PM

Like what the taikor said as above, whenever for own stay purchase, it's boil down to your own preference bcz I also not sure your main criteria.

However, if both at same price of RM 600k, KR2's 1073 sq ft to be an exact size is consider very cheap ( at RM 560 psf ) and below market price, and if what you typed of ZR size of comparison is 1200 sq ft ( or to be exact 1232 to 1236 sq ft ) is also RM 600k, then I would not hesitate to say ZR's 1200s sq ft is much more worthy.

Thats because KR1's actual size of 1050 sq ft is direct competitor to ZR's 1032 sq ft, both transacted at RM 600k average since more than 6 months ago, with some deals even up to RM 620-630k.

That's translated to KR1 was RM 570 psf averagely and ZR at RM 580 psf. KR2 is upper version of KR1 and developer sold all at RM 100 psf higher, separated by 1 year plus. However, I see the difference of KR1 and KR2 should be around RM 50 psf barrier but should be minimized based on good appreciation by KR1 and number of limits to the market along the same road, limit out the gap.

If what you said of ZR's 1200 sq ft, take it 1232 sq ft, at RM 600k, that's completely cheap at RM 487 psf! My comment is it is RM 100+ psf cheaper than market transacted and proven price. And if not mistaken, this was the developer selling price about 2 years back for unsold units, before even higher upon VP.

Unless the unit you talking about was a bumi lot or, those unit via level 1 or 2 unit with no desire view or no facing. Thats the different to my opinion on market price above.

The rest, you could decide yourself. And, you may let me know if you want KR2, I may intro u the seller.

HELLO Boss, let me rephrase a bit info.

ZR is total 1136 units, definitely its high dense bcz it is just about 7 acres plot and sharing the same access with few highrises. But some buyers would be very interesting to see the Z's designed after the successful of The Zest's impression. Like many complaint, I think the only issue was water leaking, tiles popping out and lift's operation. Otherwise, the landscape are very good so far.

About the lelong, I notice there were quite a lot of lelong recenty on ZR, but also some on KR1. However, it was quite fast to lelong out.

If not mistaken, the 1404 sq ft unit, if lelong-ing vis RM 500k++ was bumi lot, same goes to KR1's 1454 sq ft, lelong-ing end of this month at RM 570k. I saw ZR's 1404 sq ft got few lelong last months and all bid price was from RM 630k, from RM 660k and from RM 670k but I not sure if more people bid it for higher hammer priced but I know, all cleared.

Location, I hesitate to say KR2 is better, just simply bcz it was corner plot, nearest to exit Kesas interchange and not directly facing Bkt OUG old condo. Not sure if nearer to LRT station is a bonus, but I dont think so unless I feel for rental purpose. Otherwise, I honestly feel both quite equal on each other.

good and happy with KR2

convenient and location
1. LRT walking distance (covered walkway)
2. Tunnel access road (enjoy driving thru)
3. View of KL skyline (chilling )
4. easy access to amenities
breath taking roof top garden (private)

ZR, good public space,
1. good common space deco
2. lounge hotel feel
3. big pool

depend on what you want lol
if you dont take LRT ad walk out... and do not mind the neighbour industrial
ZR will be good

if you like to walk and take LRT, 100% will be KR2, esp to work, and say good bye to Traffic jam

Quite disappointed with KR2. Everything outside the unit is not major problem, small facility area is also not a major prblem, but the most fundamental problem is the layout which is quite terrible: Rooms are very very very small. For type C layout, wow 1454 sf but for e.g. only big room is masterbed room, the rest of the rooms are mickey mouse sized.

Living room is too big for no purpose.

No cow sense.

For me type C layout is excellent. Small living room is a big no no for me.
But how they design type A and B, architect needs to be fired.

Sibeh kiamsiap this developer. Wanna cut cost here and there. Typical chinaman.

But not the worst developer I have met.

In my list, Jaya Megah, Titijaya ranks far below.
On par with Empire mammoth because at least Empire is generous in doing up the place albeit very late.

Living hall big to encourage family gather there ma, chit chat and watch TV... Unless you stay in your room whenever you are at home... Like people in US, they love to have big kitchen, same purpose, they tend to spend a lot of time @ kitchen. Lolz..

This post has been edited by JustNobody: Nov 23 2015, 05:13 PM

Yeap exactly... if want all hide in the room, better buy student area and rent to students

You missed the point. The rooms are just tooooooooooo small. The type C second and third bedroom are not even livable by a couple ! After putting a double bed, there is hardly other space left.

This post has been edited by tmc: Nov 23 2015, 05:27 PM

But kids room no? Why couple?

The space is sacrificed because they allocated maids room and bathroom. But living room just nice I feel.

I went to the Rainz showroom, so many rooms, the kitchen and living room is exactly what I dont like, cramp everything inside, wanna put out a train set also susah liao..

you means it was different from the layout when you're purchasing?

may i know what is the room size and measurement?

No, it is a 1454 sf unit. It has a huge raw space.

If it is a small built up I will not make such noise.

I heard KR2 side by side car park (non tandem) is only available for unit at 18th floor and above, is this true?

Agree with you.

Perhaps depends on every individual. One wanna have big big room and another wanna have big big living or dinig hall. Anyhow also its 1457 sq ft, sure some area is sacrificed.

I prefer to have good size living hall, kitchen and master bedroom but I duwan huge 2nd and 3rd room or else, I should buy 2k sq ft or landed.

Haha looks like it is only suitable for one family, one couple and the rest are for kids.

Can't even fit 2 couples into the 1454 sf comfortably, wow, that's just a little too much for me to digest !

Not really, depends on Type and Block.

Ex.
Type C all given side by side, regardless floor.
Type B majority given side by side, exept lowest few floors and late buyers got 2T plus 1 Individual ( 3 lots )
Type A high floors all given side by side, low floor ( i think bottom half ) are given tandem parking.

All units at Level 1, with garden, are all given side by side at Ground Floor. The best parking.

Thanks for the info. SA told me about this when i view Type A unit.
Your "bottom half" mean around 15th floor and below, right?

Hmm, I think 3-4 adults ok or small family with 2-3 kids. I dont think 1400-1500 sq ft is suitable for more than 4 adults, can fit in, just lack of privacy. When the rooms bigger, the living hall would be naturally even smaller and cant even put a bigger sofa.

Sorry, Type B is the worst. 1276 sq ft shouldnt consists 3+1 rooms with 3 toilets.

I feel balcony too big for Type A and B.

Sorry, I really cannot remember.

Type A only at Tower A and B, i recall one block is abt 16th and another was 17th.

Tower C , I can confirm it was 5th floor and below for Type B 2 out of total 4 units ( another 2 was individual ) Means Type B from level 2-4, all 4 units of Type B also kena tandem of 2T plus 1 individual parking.

+1

I like my Type C layout, overall quite nice. Type A no doubt quite small, hate them put all the space into balcony ( 8" x 12 ft )

Type B is the worst.

1) Balcony is good, for pano view of KL skyline

2) Room is small, is it a trend now? almost all new launch now are small room layout

3) check the house rule... Minor fitting out even a light fitting, need to put RM2000 deposit !~ renovation is RM8000 !!

4) hey guys we need to raise our voice to the management,

United Resident ~

This post has been edited by TigerWOW: Nov 23 2015, 08:45 PM

A deposit is just a deposit. They won't eat up your money. Why the fuss ?

Do they accept cash or cheque ? If cheque, they probably just keep the cheque somewhere and return you later !

no, cheque must bank in, not for keeping.
Renovation if RM8000 is still acceptable,

RM2000 just to fit a fan ?! is really unacceptable

Light fitting can even DIY, it does not need a deposit at all

Looks like they are quite unreasonable. By comparison with other management office.

Yeah I now suspect the measurement is out. The room with a sliding door into the bathroom (bedroom 1), it is way too small visually. But it has been drawn as a doublebed room in the layout found on the net. I need to go back there with a measuring tape.

But I don't seem to be able to find the measurements for the rooms in the S&P. Anyone care to help out ?

How to get the room size for the bedroom 1 ( the one with sliding door into the bathroom and shown with a double bed ) :-



This post has been edited by tmc: Nov 24 2015, 09:14 AM

Assume it has been drawn to scale. Take a ruler to measure and scale it accordingly ?

Bro, our S&P is sucks bcz no proper measurement for all compartments and quite general.

I did request a proper copy more than 3 years back bfore I place the booking.

I try to find it tonight and post here if I found it.

doing defect checking took 1/2 day off from work, checked until evening

in general, i summarised for all owner to take note

1) skirting coating, ceitling skim coat, cement render seems done in rush, very uneven
2) Door Frame crack also
3) balcony glass paney sealant peel off
4) sliding glass door at living frame loosen
5) Kitchen Cab edge end loosen

Sunday or Saturday if you want to share your defect issue, pls PM me see what we can share and pick up more...

PM me..

This post has been edited by TigerWOW: Nov 24 2015, 10:28 PM

1st swim today, after the hardwork of checking defect..
cozy, ok.. give it a a good rating on the deck ( acceptable )

but discovered :

1) sauna/changing room no bench (not yet install?)
2) no mirror inside the changing room (not yet? or missing)
3) reading room is empty... (if compare to Z residence, not good enough to compete)
4) BBQ... where is it?
5) Roof top is enjoyable, spend a good rest there with a coffee, nice...

6) Lobby drop off, sofa and etc , acceptable
7) Jogging track should do better,




This post has been edited by TigerWOW: Nov 24 2015, 10:27 PM

I have a keen buyer looking for a unit in Kiara Residence 2 with budget of rm600k. Any owners here interested in letting go your unit pls pm me. Thanks.

Can't wait to see the KL view from the rooftop garden. Any picture to share?

Alamak. Sigh. Can share your unit is what type and which block?

Mine type c at Tower C, so far quite good except some but most major was the windows near kitchen cabinet was cracked. Overall acceptable but I dislike the parking.

Kitchen cabinet quit lousy but if me, I will tear all down and keep the Rinnai hob and hood

Ur keen buyer got stated any interested view or floor?

I may ask my friends to PM you but so far, 2 friends just VPed ans initially intend to sell but now changed plan. Not sure others.

nice night view.

Looks good!!

Nice photos! Ambiance looks good!

Not bad leh...

Many things are quite low quality to me.

1. The main door grille. Does not feel good grade.
2. The kitchen cabinet. Low quality.
3. The windows. So cranky. Making "quack" sound.
4. The tiles. Very rough. For sure they are cheap grade tiles.

Major problem is the bedroom sizes have extremely poor design. The bedroom with a sliding door to bathroom, the door open into a dead space which is unusable.