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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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post Jan 15 2007, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 15 2007, 09:50 AM)
No doubt for tight budget, CM Extreme is a nice choice.. but after some forumers die or explode their CM Extreme PSU and one of them post me the pic, now i dont recommend CM Extreme alrdy. Moreover CM = ACbel, so i rather get an ACbel.
In term of Price/Performance i would rather go for SilvStone 400w than CM Extreme.
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Yes, i do agree.The Silverstone Element 400W is a very reliable PSU compared to CM extreme.But i dont think we will still be able to get the Element 400W here..Maybe the Strider 400W..
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post Jan 15 2007, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 15 2007, 08:27 PM)
Check Zamree7 bulk.
Well, i was about to purchase the Element 500W last time out due to the great amount of recommendation given and amazing review but recently, the stop the production of the Element for the Strider.I will definitely get the Strider 560W but not now..The CM Real Power 450W is serving me good but i wanted a more reliable one..As far as i can see, i wanted something that is modular and might be cheap but there aint one..So, the Strider 560W is definitely my best choice now..
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post Mar 5 2007, 09:54 PM

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Just wondering, i am about to change my mobo into a DFI mobo and it comes with a 24pin + 8pin connector in the mobo.I am using the CM Real Power which only have 24pin + 4pin.Can i still use this PSU on the mobo (eg, plug the 4pin into the 8pin connector) or should i get a converter for the 4pin connector?

Anyway, as i have seen currently, i only know that Silverstone PSU comes with 24pin + 8pin connector.Is there any other brand that offers this 24pin +8pin connectors?Thanks...
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post Mar 7 2007, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 5 2007, 10:55 PM)
actually i also find this 4-pin to 8-pin converter, but failed, even at LowYat Plaza doh.gif...anyway, i think you should give it a try, even you plugged in, its either won't boot or it'll boot smile.gif
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I had just asked some opinion on this.The mobo will work even if you plug d 4pin connector into the 8pin slot.My cousin had personally tried this before using the OCZ Modstream on the DFI Lanparty Venus that comes with 8pin.But i am not so sure will it damage the mobo or not...I still feel its better to use it with a 8pin originally come with PSU.
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post Mar 27 2007, 07:25 PM

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Just wondering, would it be safe to use a 4pin connector to the 8pin motherboard in long term usage?Currently i own a PSU with 4pin connector but my mobo comes with 8pin.Is it a necessary to change to a 8pin PSU or just plug in the 4pin into the mobo?Just afraid that it might be damaging in long term..
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post Mar 27 2007, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 27 2007, 08:06 PM)
hmm.gif, when comes into overclocking, yes, definitely, you're gonna need 8-pin connector, otherwise, 4-pin into 8-pin should be all right...i'm not sure where's the site, quite long time, but, i saw a pix, using SLI-DR Expert with 20-pin ATX + 4-pin CPU...
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I intent to OC with my new board (thats my intention when i get it) but still does not have enough budget yet to get a good PSU (Silverstone in mind).Therefore, i thought of using my current PSU in performing the job for me..What effect it might have if i insist on using the 4pin on 8pin mobo and OC as well?
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post Mar 31 2007, 01:09 PM

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How can we know that we need more power in the current PC setup or the juice from current PSU is already enough?

And at what rate in term of V for the +12V,+5V...are considered as a stable PSU?From PC Wizard, my +12V is running at 11.37V only while the +5V is running at 4.87V..

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post Apr 2 2007, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Apr 1 2007, 07:43 PM)
the rating shouldn't be off +-5 of that rail, which means 12V is around 11.4V, but normally I take 11.6 within the safe zone.  This means your PSU is running at it's limit shocking.gif

note : before rushing out to buy a new PSU, you should try another program to check the voltage, no single program gives a accurate reading, the most accurate is using a multitester to check which should be handle by expert only.
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I just tested it with PC Wizard currently.But i have tested the PSU before using Smartguardian, showing about 11.6V for the +12V but have a RED sign in the +5V which is showing about 4.3V..Not sure which to trust though as PC Wizard is showing my +5V to be fine..
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Apr 14 2007, 10:57 PM)
AFAIK, Silverstone's modular design is from Decathlon series, but this's gonna cost a bomb... brows.gif
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Strider series also have modular design but its only available from the 600W version and above.Not the 560W. Anyway, at first, i am in love with modular designed PSU but after some research about modular being not so good when it comes to performance, i started to have my doubts..And when the cable of my cousin's OCZ Modstream became loose, i lost interest with modular design and only focused on those normal designed one.One thing too bad bout the ST56F is its not fully sleeved and when it comes to me who is a person that lacks technique in sleeving, its going to be a problem when i get it for myself - hopefully by next week or another...
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 16 2007, 04:02 PM)
What wattage it have for Decathlon series? How much and where can I get that? Any forumer sell or bulk it?
Do you mean the ST60F? wow, all is modular... but the price... sweat.gif  still can't make my mind on which PSU should I get... thinking of get Liberty 500W...what you guys think, if I upgrade to C2D, 2GB DDR2, adding few more 120mm fan, add high capacity hdd to replace current low capacity hdd,should be enough juice right...since C2D is consume less power? unsure.gif  Not going to upgrade gc as I am not hardcore gamer, so my current 7600GS should be sufficient, and I am not going to use Vista that fast... laugh.gif
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Yes, modular PSU from SS are really expensive and i got a slight feeling that the Decathlon series is going to be more expensive than the Olympia series. I do feel the 500W liberty is going to make it for now.No point sweating about it unless u really get yourself a power hungry GC..
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post Apr 19 2007, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 18 2007, 08:45 PM)
hmm.gif  good point there...thanks anyway... notworthy.gif


Added on April 18, 2007, 8:48 pm

Ya, I am from Johore. But the SS Strider 560W is not modular... I want the modular type...  hmm.gif  will think about tit too... thanks... notworthy.gif
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I guess liberty would be your best choice unless you wana spend more in the SS. How about looking at OCZ PSU from Spore?Wouldnt that be a good choice?
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QUOTE(stanley85 @ Apr 19 2007, 02:03 PM)
but i see the silver stone strider 560w which cost me RM 399 in the last week price list.. where u get the RM 320 ??
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I think the official retail price should be around RM349.Didnt heard about any price increase though..
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post Apr 19 2007, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 19 2007, 04:21 PM)
I think I will stick with Liberty 500W...using the Liberty 400W now, found it quite stable and solid...but need to look around for the cheapest price first...maybe will get from Vertex again...last time I get my Liberty 400W from them too... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Given that you really wanted a modular PSU, i guess the choices are fairly limited and Enermax Liberty series should be the cheapest you could get.
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QUOTE(stevenchee @ Apr 19 2007, 06:22 PM)
enlight 450w good or not? real power? silent or not? i jus need an QUIET psu so tat i can sleep better at night~ another choice is acbel 350w. which one better? any sifu? quiet is most important for me. normal use only. not going oc. cos i got the offer for the same price for this 2 unit (2nd hand). now thinking which to buy. any advice?
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Just wondering, how much are you willing to pay and your main priority is silent?Cause there is plenty of choices available around and i dont seem to know any reliable brand PSU to be noisy..

If your budget is low (as in around RM100 - RM150), try look around for those FSP, Acbel or maybe topup a little for Silverstone.
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Need some suggestion here guys:

I am about to build a new rig as my 2nd rig just gone "kaput" due to the mobo burnt. I have these in my mind right now:

AMD X2 3600+
Biostar 6100 AM2
512MB ram

These will be retained from my previous rig:

80GB Maxtor HDD
1 * TDK Combo Drive
1 * TDK CDRW Drive


Looking into the spec, i was really hoping to get myself a "better" PSU as my previous one was a chaplang brand that came with the chaplang casing.I have a few choices in mind but i am not so sure how many watts i need as well as which is better.

My budget would be at best RM150 and below, but if it needs to be slightly more expensive to get something better bang for buck, i will consider it.

FSP Saga 400W - RM135
CM Extreme Power 430W - RM150
SS 400W - RM180 (abit too steep)
Acbel - RM??

Which would be better?
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Wanted to know, would it void the PSU's warranty if i were to sleeve a brand new PSU or change the molex connectors?I might be getting myself the ST56F next week and would want to try and sleeve it myself (as the cables are not sleeved) but wondering would it void the warranty?
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Apr 20 2007, 11:04 PM)
anyone had encounter a problem from CM RealPower 450W???i don't usually OCing...just sometimes!!!!need some comment...?!!!! notworthy.gif
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I am using this PSU here.Currently satisfied with it as i am not a pro OCer but if you are into OC, i dont really recommend this PSU. Dont think its stable enough if you are into hardcore OCing...

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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 19 2007, 10:19 PM)
Need some suggestion here guys:

I am about to build a new rig as my 2nd rig just gone "kaput" due to the mobo burnt. I have these in my mind right now:

AMD X2 3600+
Biostar 6100 AM2
512MB ram

These will be retained from my previous rig:

80GB Maxtor HDD
1 * TDK Combo Drive
1 * TDK CDRW Drive
Looking into the spec, i was really hoping to get myself a "better" PSU as my previous one was a chaplang brand that came with the chaplang casing.I have a few choices in mind but i am not so sure how many watts i need as well as which is better.

My budget would be at best RM150 and below, but if it needs to be slightly more expensive to get something better bang for buck, i will consider it.

FSP Saga 400W - RM135
CM Extreme Power 430W - RM150
SS 400W - RM180 (abit too steep)
Acbel - RM??

Which would be better?
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I am about the get the FSP Saga. Can anyone give me some oppinion here? rclxub.gif Is it pure power?

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Apr 21 2007, 09:31 AM)
if u all wanna go for modular psu, go for SS as it is 100% modular, those liberty are not 100% modular (the mobo + cpu power is not modular)...

i'm guessing u all wanna modular psu for cable management rite? nod.gif with SS Strider u can make custom cables (with the exact measurement that suits ur chassis) & don't have to worried bout the connectors, u can buy the UV connectors from the Bulk Section as SS Strider use the common connector for their psu compared to Liberty, Enermax use those PCIe connectors like u connect to the VGA, plus Liberty, u can't custom made the mobo + cpu power cable as it is not modular (although it can be done, thus it will void the warranty)
yup, it will avoid the warranty if u stupidly send for RMA without riping the sleeve off & change the UV connector to its original connector doh.gif  laugh.gif

those PSU that are not originally been sleeved at all --> u can sleeve em with worrying the warranty...

but those PSU that has originally semi-sleeved then u have a problem, if the default sleeved is black is a okay, u can sleeve back it black when RMAing, but what if its not black, like those Liberty, the sleeve they use is black+yellow, where to get? unless u want to double sleeve it nod.gif then when RMAing just rip off the one u sleeved & leave the default one on rclxms.gif
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Well, SS modular PSU is one of the best i have seen.So many different type of cable given. lol..but the thing is, they are expensive.Cheapest also around RM600.. rclxub.gif lol..

About sleeving, i am going to get the SS ST56F which i think is semi-sleeved in black. So, does that mean i can sleeve them and in case anything happens, i can just take of those sleeve and maintain warranty?

QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 21 2007, 10:31 AM)
Saga series is true power I think, with a minimum of 70% efficiency and not active PFC... but if you are not going to OC kaw kaw, should be ok de...for your spec above... but if you wanna upgrade more hardware to it late, might have little problem lor...need to change to a better PSU... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I dont think i will be upgrading this PC anytime soon.That particular mobo that had been burnt recently also lasted for about 4 years already without any particular changes. Anyway, what influence it will make if its not Active PFC? No OC is being done, not even a mild one. And according to your opinion, what is the maximum hardware that i could put into the PC using this 400W Saga before is being overloaded?
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Apr 24 2007, 08:07 AM)
Anyone one khow about those newer 20+8 pins needed by DFI and some Asus model ?

what PSU offer this kind of connections?

getting more and more confuse...........
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Actually its 24pin + 8pin connectors. I know Silverstone PSU have them but not sure bout others. Not sure about the intention though but you can still use a 24pin + 4pin connector with it. The 4pin will fit into the 8pin connector and you are still able to use them but not good for stability issue though. At least i am using it now on my DFI with the CM Real Power..

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