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Discussion "Serie A is boring n too defensive-minded", is that true ? lets share ur view.

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post Dec 1 2006, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Reimao @ Dec 1 2006, 07:24 PM)
Omg..If im not s=mistaken Liverpool won da CL in 2005 rite?and for da past 2 seasons EPL teams had featured in CL finals.. rclxm9.gif
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.....and your point is?

we talking about more general. not just few season back. lets get universal perspective.

Juventus straight in 3 CL final
AC Milan straight in 3 CL final
Real Madrid 5 straight CL final
Bayern Munich 3 straight final
Ajax straight in 3 CL final

yours? different EPL teams in consecutive final..and the most is 2 only.




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post Dec 1 2006, 08:00 PM

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The commentators that u get over here on Serie A and La Liga sux. I'm not sure about Serie A but some Spanish commentators who do La Liga matches are as fun as it can get.
"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! GOGOGOGOGOGOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"
Classic. tongue.gif

And what's this crap about major european competitions cause as far as i know, of the 3 big leagues, the EPL has the least number of champions.
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post Dec 1 2006, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Dec 1 2006, 07:23 PM)
Wah... ready to get flame by the Serie A fans, kid. Is European Champion League "big" enough to be a major European cup ?? If yes, look at this,

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/history/index.html

FYI, Serie A is even called as "mini World Cup" for their quality and ofc, wages. If I were you, I'll delete that post before get flamed to dead.
Back to the topic, IMHO, EPL is more popular in Asia, comparing to the rest of the leagues is mainly because of their marketing strategy. Commentator play a major role, it make ppl (like me) get excited when watching the match. The commentator start to shout the striker name even if the striker only just got the ball and looks like want to shoot. Too exaggerated, but hey, that's how you attract people. But Seria A and La Liga, even a striker score, the dull and robotic voice of the commentator, "It's a goal..." sweat.gif For I the first one not going to feel excited by those comment.

But in terms of quality football, Serie A's teams still a forces to be reckoned with. I even sometimes think they are better than EPL.
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Well i'm just giving out my opinion
Liverpool also won the european cup 5 times wut.
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Eh dude don't go off topic what's with ajax bayern munich italy Real Madrid
This is seria A please stick with topic rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by Joshiet: Dec 1 2006, 09:23 PM
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post Dec 1 2006, 09:21 PM

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so u r saying that EPL also boring to watch?
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post Dec 1 2006, 09:24 PM

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imo series a league sometimes nice to watch.. somtimes not.. depending on which team palying
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Dec 1 2006, 08:00 PM)
The commentators that u get over here on Serie A and La Liga sux. I'm not sure about Serie A but some Spanish commentators who do La Liga matches are as fun as it can get.
"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! GOGOGOGOGOGOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"
Classic. tongue.gif

And what's this crap about major european competitions cause as far as i know, of the 3 big leagues, the EPL has the least number of champions.
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check out the link i posted previous, n u'll hear a typical Italian commentator... gosh that guy is crazy ! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joshiet @ Dec 1 2006, 09:15 PM)
Well i'm just giving out my opinion
Liverpool also won the european cup 5 times wut.
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Eh dude don't go off topic what's with ajax bayern munich italy Real Madrid
This is seria A please stick with topic  rclxub.gif
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lol, saying that "no any major european cups won by italy team" is an opinion ? now thats a really funny 1 if u ask me. laugh.gif

QUOTE(crazyfawkes @ Dec 1 2006, 09:21 PM)
so u r saying that EPL also boring to watch?
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who said that ? huh.gif
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QUOTE(Reimao @ Dec 1 2006, 07:24 PM)
Omg..If im not s=mistaken Liverpool won da CL in 2005 rite?and for da past 2 seasons EPL teams had featured in CL finals.. rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 1 2006, 11:08 PM

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Middlesbrough went to UEFA CUP final?
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QUOTE(Joshiet @ Dec 1 2006, 11:08 PM)
Middlesbrough went to UEFA CUP final?
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and Sevilla beat the living hell outta them. I watched that game. And it wasn't even close doh.gif
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post Dec 2 2006, 01:07 AM

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dunt know...the atmosphere and the italianclubs gameplay not attractive and not as physical as English games.....also the commentators also like gonna sleep and not ceria enough...which makes it more boring - more or less like Hasbullah Awang tongue.gif

...should be like south american commentators, cakap laju and if goal......damn long sebut GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

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QUOTE(Oxigen @ Dec 2 2006, 01:07 AM)
dunt know...the atmosphere and the italianclubs gameplay not attractive and not as physical as English games.....also the commentators also like gonna sleep and not ceria enough...which makes it more boring - more or less like Hasbullah Awang  tongue.gif

...should be like south american commentators, cakap laju and if goal......damn long sebut GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

-cheers-

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well, i guess i would sleep if the commentator is hasbullah awang... tongue.gif biggrin.gif

football commentators should shout and scream like mad when they were a goal... well, we for sure will feel inspired and stay awake especially involving matches late at night... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Joshiet @ Dec 1 2006, 11:08 PM)
Middlesbrough went to UEFA CUP final?
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yeah... fought hard to get there but kena bungkus as well.. might as well sleep on the pitch.. i wonder if its Dani Alves again who scored for Sevilla then... didnt watch oni read it in the papers
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At least they went to the finals.Ahem*.Who said besides man u and liverpool.So middlesbrough not english team?
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post Dec 2 2006, 06:07 AM

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Hmm....i think defend minded team also appear in EPL,so as La Liga,u can't take 1 defensive team and describe the whole league is defend minded.
the main reason i don't like to watch Serie A because of the audience in stadium,it looks like playing football in malaysia doh.gif
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post Dec 2 2006, 06:55 AM

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Actually Serie A is not as boring as many people think. Agree with many people who said that the commentator is not as good as the EPL ones. Not enthusiastic at all...I'm not sure about you guys but i feel there's something wrong with the camera angle too. Seems like the pitch is too far away.

I don't agree with some of the comments made which said the fans are not as vocal as the EPL ones. I've been to stadiums before. No matter how badly any team plays, the fans are crazy. They will be shouting for the whole 90 minutes. Trust me. The quiet moments are the sometimes usually the extremely exciting moments when everyone is really paying attention. Then when some team miss a good chance, you can hear the " AHHHH"s and the "BOOO"s. The only difference is the EPL ones sound louder in TV. I don't know why. Better sound card huh?

Anyway, sometimes football is about tactics. Brilliant defending is always a joy to watch. Best example is Cannavaro in the world cup. However the greatest joy is always a goal feast. What I feel is any games from any leagues can be exciting. It's just up to the people watching them. Sometimes those games in the "taman" without any "rumput" can be mouth-watering too...Hehehe.

Roma die hard fan here too...I was trying to be completely unbiased in this post. Hope I succeeded.


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QUOTE(Oxigen @ Dec 2 2006, 01:07 AM)
dunt know...the atmosphere and the italianclubs gameplay not attractive and not as physical as English games.....also the commentators also like gonna sleep and not ceria enough...which makes it more boring - more or less like Hasbullah Awang  tongue.gif

...should be like south american commentators, cakap laju and if goal......damn long sebut GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

-cheers-

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again, i would recommend u to try to watch them on foreign channels if u got the chances. u'll b amazed by how far n crazy those Italian commentators can go. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joshiet @ Dec 2 2006, 02:39 AM)
At least they went to the finals.Ahem*.Who said besides man u and liverpool.So middlesbrough not english team?
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firstly, u told some1 else that "this is seria A please stick with topic", n now u bring up this bullcrap urself. nice shooting at ur own foot, eh ?

2nd, UEFA Cup ? r u kidding me ? is that thing qualify as 'major european cup' ? no offence to any1 who hav their clubs playing for this trophy, but for me UEFA Cup is juz like a plastic made Mickey Mouse cup, compare to the CL.
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QUOTE(Joshiet @ Dec 2 2006, 02:39 AM)
At least they went to the finals.Ahem*.Who said besides man u and liverpool.So middlesbrough not english team?
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You have to remember that European competitions are cup competitions so u will get a few surprises here and there (Remember Porto and Monaco?). Middlesborough were very lucky to get to the finals and they ran out of it when it mattered most. And "besides man u and liverpool" was obviously referring to the European Cup/Champions League. How convenient is it to close one eye just to justify your "opinion"
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post Dec 2 2006, 11:59 PM

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epl matches are getting boring except for few attacking teams. but the commentator and the atmosphere is a bit different from la liga and seria A. i wont deny that at times, i felt asleep watching liverpool play, but at least when liverpool score...i will certainly cheer loud for them.

i wont say UEFA cup is mickey mouse cup, it was like years ago when MU treat the same to carling cup. most club will appreciate cup more when they failed to win anything, just ask any major clubs whether they want to finish empty handed or having UEFA trophy on their cabinet.

This post has been edited by uNeVErwaLkaloNe: Dec 3 2006, 12:00 AM
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Even when we won the Carling Cup last season, we still started the first two games in it with mostly reserve/backup players. Never change. If you win it, well, nice, if you don't... not gonna hurt you much, except when you lose in the final, especially to your rivals.

Serie A to me is boring. Maybe its the atmosphere we can't hear on our tv, or the robotic commentators... they sound really bad, whats worse there's almost no background sounds... but really whenever I've watch it, it's like pedestrian pace. Juve with Capello... boring. However, I don't follow the league that much, only the occasional big games sometimes, even that I don't watch heh, too late for me. So I may be talking out of my arse here. But surely the reputation is not just suka-suka made up.

The quality are maybe a bit more superior to the English league, and also Italian clubs may be more successful than the English clubs in Europe, but it doesn't mean the league is more exciting. Well I dont read the previous pages, so I don't really know what you guys meant by that success in Europe stuff, but what I said above is what I feel right now. heh. ManUtd(well, maybe not recently), Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal all do pretty well in the CL last few years, Leeds when they were on top. So its not all that bad. English clubs only recently are able to attract the world class players, in the early 90's not that much movement, was behind Serie A in terms of wages they could offer. Also got banned from Europe for a few years in the 80's right? It all played a part.

I wouldn't look much in the the winning cup stuff, its a lottery. Good tactics, right kind of form... and you'll win it. Of course also need the players, but not always the best team wins. Liverpool-Milan, Porto-Monaco in the final? And Germany in the WCs. Crap in qualifying, but finished runners up behind Brazil. Spain look like they almost never do anything special..

But one thing I agree, the English(national and clubs) seem to struggle againts teams who are good with the ball at their feet(those technical stuff heh). No idea why. Its because the players & coaching maybe, all need to get stuck in and physical. Need an overhaul of their youth coaching at grassroots level.

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Agree about the EPL getting boring. Most teams know they can't survive againts the big teams, so they play defensive.

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Dec 2 2006, 11:59 PM)
epl matches are getting boring except for few attacking teams. but the commentator and the atmosphere is a bit different from la liga and seria A. i wont deny that at times, i felt asleep watching liverpool play, but at least when liverpool score...i will certainly cheer loud for them.

i wont say UEFA cup is mickey mouse cup, it was like years ago when MU treat the same to carling cup. most club will appreciate cup more when they failed to win anything, just ask any major clubs whether they want to finish empty handed or having UEFA trophy on their cabinet.
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lol i might b went too far to cal UEFA Cup that way though. but its not that hard t understand when u compare it with the CL. laugh.gif tongue.gif

n after much replies here, i see that the big factor is indeed the audio n visual problem of the broadcast here. doh.gif

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