Even when we won the Carling Cup last season, we still started the first two games in it with mostly reserve/backup players. Never change. If you win it, well, nice, if you don't... not gonna hurt you much, except when you lose in the final, especially to your rivals.

Serie A to me is boring. Maybe its the atmosphere we can't hear on our tv, or the robotic commentators... they sound really bad, whats worse there's almost no background sounds... but really whenever I've watch it, it's like pedestrian pace. Juve with Capello... boring. However, I don't follow the league that much, only the occasional big games sometimes, even that I don't watch heh, too late for me. So I may be talking out of my arse here. But surely the reputation is not just suka-suka made up.

The quality are maybe a bit more superior to the English league, and also Italian clubs may be more successful than the English clubs in Europe, but it doesn't mean the league is more exciting. Well I dont read the previous pages, so I don't really know what you guys meant by that success in Europe stuff, but what I said above is what I feel right now. heh. ManUtd(well, maybe not recently), Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal all do pretty well in the CL last few years, Leeds when they were on top. So its not all that bad. English clubs only recently are able to attract the world class players, in the early 90's not that much movement, was behind Serie A in terms of wages they could offer. Also got banned from Europe for a few years in the 80's right? It all played a part.

I wouldn't look much in the the winning cup stuff, its a lottery. Good tactics, right kind of form... and you'll win it. Of course also need the players, but not always the best team wins. Liverpool-Milan, Porto-Monaco in the final? And Germany in the WCs. Crap in qualifying, but finished runners up behind Brazil. Spain look like they almost never do anything special..

But one thing I agree, the English(national and clubs) seem to struggle againts teams who are good with the ball at their feet(those technical stuff heh). No idea why. Its because the players & coaching maybe, all need to get stuck in and physical. Need an overhaul of their youth coaching at grassroots level.

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Agree about the EPL getting boring. Most teams know they can't survive againts the big teams, so they play defensive.

This post has been edited by Wan: Dec 3 2006, 03:25 PM