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> PayPal charge back conman Muhammed Roslan, 0192099281 & 0196194169

kawa_e
post Mar 25 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Mar 11 2017, 08:22 AM)
Maybe paypal won't bother doing anything since the chances of him charging back is small. If he keeps on charging back, then paypal will sure target him.
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Yeah ? Maybe not. The fraudster im dealing with bought many things from marketplace and filed dispute for all of them. And yet the issuer bank favors him. I cant even get the details of the scammer. His number no longer contactable and i cant be sure whether his name were real or not
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post Sep 27 2017, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 11 2015, 02:05 PM)
Sorry to hear that. We already discontinue the use of Paypal for our business long time ago as Paypal always favor the buyer rather than the seller.
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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Mar 25 2017, 09:52 PM)
Yeah ? Maybe not. The fraudster im dealing with bought many things from marketplace and filed dispute for all of them. And yet the issuer bank favors him. I cant even get the details of the scammer. His number no longer contactable and i cant be sure whether his name were real or not
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I wonder how PayPal can survive ....

They are always in favour of buyers aka scammers...

I am still wondering why many sellers are still wanna use Paypal as their payment partner.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 27 2017, 07:46 AM)
I wonder how PayPal can survive ....

They are always in favour of buyers aka scammers...

I am still wondering why many sellers are still wanna use Paypal as their payment partner.
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The reason PayPal able to survive because they got take a bit more responsibility than local card payment gateway services.
Look at the charges and the service level provided by local player, many sellers have no choice but stick to PayPal.
For example if you look at Lelong Netpay service agreement, the protection is only to protect the buyer not seller unlike last time Safetrade.com.my.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:43 AM)
The reason PayPal able to survive because they got take a bit more responsibility than local card payment gateway services.
Look at the charges and the service level provided by local player, many sellers have no choice but stick to PayPal.
For example if you look at Lelong Netpay service agreement, the protection is only to protect the buyer not seller unlike last time Safetrade.com.my.
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I read one post here before and we taught the seller to report to police and sent over the report to the merchant to raise the concerns and at the end, the seller won the case and the merchant released the funds to the seller.

You will need to fight for your own if all shipments are properly documented and you can show the shipment evidence.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 27 2017, 10:46 AM)
I read one post here before and we taught the seller to report to police and sent over the report to the merchant to raise the concerns and at the end, the seller won the case and the merchant released the funds to the seller.

You will need to fight for your own if all shipments are properly documented and you can show the shipment evidence.
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I did report to local police before, in the end PayPal freezed my account for god sake half a year.
That's how they providing their service, they even banned my credit card.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:48 AM)
I did report to local police before, in the end PayPal freezed my account for god sake half a year.
That's how they providing their service, they even banned my credit card.
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You meant the bank banned your credit card or PayPal?

For PayPal, no matter how good you keep the proof of shipment, they are in favour of buyer before you. Unlike local merchant, you have to fight.. For PayPal, no way.

This post has been edited by jack2: Sep 27 2017, 10:50 AM
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 27 2017, 10:49 AM)
You meant the bank banned your credit card or PayPal?
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Paypal banned my credit card; which means if other seller sent me an invoice to make payment my card will be block to make the payment.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:51 AM)
Paypal banned my credit card; which means if other seller sent me an invoice to make payment my card will be block to make the payment.
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Just don't use it la.

We have bitcoin now.. No need to worry about chargeback.

This post has been edited by jack2: Sep 27 2017, 10:52 AM
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 27 2017, 10:52 AM)
Just don't use it la.

We have bitcoin now.. No need to worry about chargeback.
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bitcoin is useful but too volatile for now, still waiting for stable currency may be Jcoin from Japan banks.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:55 AM)
bitcoin is useful but too volatile for now, still waiting for stable currency may be Jcoin from Japan banks.
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or USDT or perfectmoney
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post Sep 27 2017, 11:03 AM

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WTF. I know him. he is my fren. Btw he is liar but nvr con my money. Seriously dun trust him. No wonder he got much money lately. Knowing him from 2006. So long lost contact with him. Suddenly saw this post today.
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post Sep 27 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Sep 27 2017, 11:03 AM)
WTF. I know him. he is my fren. Btw he is liar but nvr con my money. Seriously dun trust him. No wonder he got much money lately. Knowing him from 2006. So long lost contact with him. Suddenly saw this post today.
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He doesn't have fixed job?
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post Sep 27 2017, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 27 2017, 11:04 AM)
He doesn't have fixed job?
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As far as i know he work with eSport. And also doing online sales. He just ignore me lately. Just met him in last dota tournament. Btw he is not dangerous. Bit childish. Long time ago he always being bullied. Now he hide behind keyboard & online games. Long time ago he was known as 'Apis Kote'. Always lie even to close fren.
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post Sep 27 2017, 09:27 PM

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If i manage to have tea break/lepak with him, i will invite u. Then he is yours.
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post Sep 27 2017, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Sep 27 2017, 09:27 PM)
If i manage to have tea break/lepak with him, i will invite u. Then he is yours.
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Whoever can recover my money, I give him/her/them 50% of the amount.
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 11:25 PM)
Whoever can recover my money, I give him/her/them 50% of the amount.
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U got details about transaction? I just trying to help. I really hate scammer. I will update u if got any news.
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post Sep 28 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Sep 28 2017, 07:51 PM)
U got details about transaction? I just trying to help. I really hate scammer. I will update u if got any news.
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If you able recover the money, give me back RM569.
Buyer's name: Muhammed Roslan
Buyer's email: faction@live.com.my
Buyer's transaction ID: 60D07267F4486750S
Your transaction ID: 3XR083916A949445H
Transaction date: October 6, 2015
Transaction amount: 1,139.00 MYR


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post Sep 29 2017, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 28 2017, 11:36 PM)
If you able recover the money, give me back RM569.
Buyer's name: Muhammed Roslan
Buyer's email: faction@live.com.my
Buyer's transaction ID: 60D07267F4486750S
Your transaction ID: 3XR083916A949445H
Transaction date: October 6, 2015
Transaction amount: 1,139.00 MYR
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post Aug 12 2018, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Sep 27 2017, 09:27 PM)
If i manage to have tea break/lepak with him, i will invite u. Then he is yours.
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WTF is this. LMFAO~
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post Aug 12 2018, 03:53 PM

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