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> PayPal charge back conman Muhammed Roslan, 0192099281 & 0196194169

jack2
post Sep 27 2017, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 11 2015, 02:05 PM)
Sorry to hear that. We already discontinue the use of Paypal for our business long time ago as Paypal always favor the buyer rather than the seller.
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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Mar 25 2017, 09:52 PM)
Yeah ? Maybe not. The fraudster im dealing with bought many things from marketplace and filed dispute for all of them. And yet the issuer bank favors him. I cant even get the details of the scammer. His number no longer contactable and i cant be sure whether his name were real or not
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I wonder how PayPal can survive ....

They are always in favour of buyers aka scammers...

I am still wondering why many sellers are still wanna use Paypal as their payment partner.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:43 AM)
The reason PayPal able to survive because they got take a bit more responsibility than local card payment gateway services.
Look at the charges and the service level provided by local player, many sellers have no choice but stick to PayPal.
For example if you look at Lelong Netpay service agreement, the protection is only to protect the buyer not seller unlike last time Safetrade.com.my.
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I read one post here before and we taught the seller to report to police and sent over the report to the merchant to raise the concerns and at the end, the seller won the case and the merchant released the funds to the seller.

You will need to fight for your own if all shipments are properly documented and you can show the shipment evidence.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:48 AM)
I did report to local police before, in the end PayPal freezed my account for god sake half a year.
That's how they providing their service, they even banned my credit card.
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You meant the bank banned your credit card or PayPal?

For PayPal, no matter how good you keep the proof of shipment, they are in favour of buyer before you. Unlike local merchant, you have to fight.. For PayPal, no way.

This post has been edited by jack2: Sep 27 2017, 10:50 AM
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:51 AM)
Paypal banned my credit card; which means if other seller sent me an invoice to make payment my card will be block to make the payment.
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Just don't use it la.

We have bitcoin now.. No need to worry about chargeback.

This post has been edited by jack2: Sep 27 2017, 10:52 AM
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 27 2017, 10:55 AM)
bitcoin is useful but too volatile for now, still waiting for stable currency may be Jcoin from Japan banks.
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or USDT or perfectmoney
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post Sep 27 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Sep 27 2017, 11:03 AM)
WTF. I know him. he is my fren. Btw he is liar but nvr con my money. Seriously dun trust him. No wonder he got much money lately. Knowing him from 2006. So long lost contact with him. Suddenly saw this post today.
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He doesn't have fixed job?
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post Aug 12 2018, 03:53 PM

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TS was able to counter back claim with PayPal?
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Aug 12 2018, 03:59 PM)
Nothing can be done, PayPal even locked up our account for 6 months when we pursuit further for the issue.
We have show them all the evidences, but still they decided to side the buyer.

On another occasion in this year we have another case happened, a buyer bought our product later on claimed not authorised payment.
This time they siding the seller, by telling us they are doing our favour.
They should not said doing our favour, we as seller did nothing wrong by follow all the guideline set by PayPal. They should protect us, not the scammer.
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LoL... They said so seem like giving you muka...

Why Don't stop to use PayPal. PayPal is being using by scammers to scam sellers and PayPal is the mid party to earn both through.

LOL
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Aug 12 2018, 04:20 PM)
May be they knew I going to blow them up?
We can't get away from PayPal, since this is the only medium overseas buyer have faith on it.
Local payment gateway also shift the blame to seller if anything bad happened, they want to make money but they want to have responsibility even though the transaction approved by them.
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If sellers decline to do the business with PayPal, and they have no business and buyers can't spend on PayPal too... So this creates no business to PayPal and I am sure if all sellers pakat, you all will be awarded one day with this way.
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Aug 12 2018, 04:36 PM)
Our country is too small to have a voice, it does not works.
There is no other big brand payment gateway can give formidable fight with PayPal, yet.
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Skrill, neteller, perfectmoney, fasapay, bitcoin Dan banyak lagi...

 

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