Hi,

I plan to get myself for ikea kitchen cabinet.

Just wonder anyone using it and how good is the quality?

Imma looking for kicthecn kabinet, with a island table in the middle.

Hi, I am planning to have my wet kitchen done by IKEA. With quartz worktop from outside though. As for my dry kitchen, I have engaged Signature kitchen. Reason being I like the rustic series from SK but I wanted a longer warranty with the wet kitchen. Save a bit too

im worried about the installer, since they will use 3rd party. Looking the way assembling the cabinet, fast but not convince enough.

Anyone use them? and what is the feedback?

I like the way ikea present their storage ideas. which really suit demanding wife "workplace"

i have a higher ranged ikea kitchen installed 7 yrs ago (dry). installation by appointed ikea installer was perfect. they paid attention to detail, sealed all cut-holes properly, great sink & hob & oven installation. i have actually nothing to complain about. the leveling and everything was done without any issues and even though the kitchen is very large installation was done in 1 1/2 days. value for money. kitchen still looks like new. changed then handles recently because i got tired of the old handles though but that was cosmetic and not because anything failed. all doors still work fine, all hinges too, no peeling, discoloring or any other issues at all.

I will avoid IKEA.

Any issues on your side? i just like their storage idea. AFAIK never see any cabinet can match ikea functionality.

If not mistaken it comes with 25 years warranty...I think its worth it

Must be expensive using signature kitchen

usually the quality is not great but ok. the only problem is if u use their disassembler. they do not have a certain level attention to detail

can you check what material SK uses for their carcass and thickness? block board? chipboard? mdf? 3 layer plywood? 5layer marine ply? that will tell u if the frame really can tahan or not especially when kena wet/damp issues.

the 25 years warranty is very tempting.
what do the warranty covers?

whats wrong with 3rd party installers? even Signature Kitchen uses 3rd party installers
if they are good, they are good. if you get bad installers, then it doesnt matter if they are in-house or 3rd party

Ikea kitchen cabs are not cheap. You should first come out with a design then ask both Ikea and Signature Kitchen to quote/estimate for comparison
Btw there is nothing wrong with Ikea's. They are just as good as others. Just choose a durable finished door.

been using it since 2009. still good as new today.

Yup agree on that one. It depends on the installer. My friend first house using SK the product is good but the installer screw the instllation.
2nd house go get ikea and put himself one.

my office now using Ikea work station and cabinet, very bad finishing at all edge.

my house "free kitchen cabinet" from developer since year 2005 still look new until today.

I believe last time cabinet are built from solid material.

but nowaday all cutting cost, a lot things scrutinized. Same like we built house, where got using clay brick but still selling u premium price.

think about it.

can still get the cabinet frames built in solid plywood if you know who to look for... but most people choose mdf or chipboard already.. due to cheaper cost.

Ya all ikea stuff is mdf..dunno how they can last 25 years

maybe good also.. if all out of shape after 10years maybe can claim waranty for new cabinets?

IKEA's cabinet looks good even touches good

but 4 yers down the road - you will - lets just say look like my avatar being upsidedown

dont believe me, remember me in 4 years time that you heard it here

im using ikea kitchen cabinet.. now almost 2 year and as good as new.. mine not so expensive..

Anyone can give me technical drawings for those Ikea hole for utrusta hinges please? 125 and 153 deg

All kitchens need basic care and maintenance. iKEA cabinets are no different. They are not exactly the cheapest either. What I know is apart from the handles, which is not covered in the warranty, most reviews are positive with the quality of their cabinets.

No. the warranty is not covered wear and tear. its on manufacturing defect.

sample clause
http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/pdf/warranty_...warranty_A5.pdf

Well, i think, ikea on medium,

high end like Signature kitchen
ikea in the middle
the rest below ikea.

http://www.thekitchn.com/faiths-kitchen-re...ths-budg-184072

Well, i think, ikea on medium,

high end like Signature kitchen
ikea in the middle
the rest below ikea.

http://www.thekitchn.com/faiths-kitchen-re...ths-budg-184072

can you check if SK is using what material for the internal carcass and drawer boxes.. that will determine its actually made out of high end material or not..
other things like hardware.. well can just buy high range Blum or hafele (not the their rm1-2 hinge) and screw on to become more high class.

if proper high end kitchen is using solid hardwood plywood to make.

SK using water resistance chipboard for carcass
Doors - depends but mostly MDF

I know of no one using solid hard plywood like in your picture. When they say plywood - inside hollow wan. Two thin pieces of plywood sandwiched together with some bits and pieces of wood in the middle only

u mean like this?

nope

like this?

cant find the pic wan. malaysians do things, other countries no do liddat.
first they make a frame. then the two sandwich ply
go ask ask ask, pretend to want to buy then you will know

wow.. thats a good low cost way.. if only they quoted very low price too to end customer.

sometime, diff factory produce diff spec of plywood, also import from diff country also having diff spec of plywood, plywood in many thickness, usually use for cabinet is normally 6/8" plywood or 5/8" plywood, some factory call multiply, those are (solid plywood) with no hollow part in the centre. this kind of material will be use when requested, simply becoz the cost are expensive compare to chipboard. So, you pay what you get.

My contractor using solid wood for cabinets. The old fashioned style.

thats really old school.. should be well built and strong too.

Any pics of the cross section?
All plywood consider solid but they don't tell you how thick. It may be 18mm but inside hollow

It's solid, so far as I checked for the frame. Door I don't think so though, just a solid frame wrapped by plywood. Is that what you mean by not solid?

Ar118 is right. Feels really strong. I'd recommend for kuching folks, but his pace of work really slow because doing the traditional way haha

The hafele rm2 hinge fake one is it? I saw at the shop, very amused

So anywone,

besides ikea, what is ur experience with other contractor?

Recently i met with CLS kitchen, quality wise i think is so so. MDF all the way but can change the door panel.

Feel like if properly pasang, ikea is better.

to the cabinet contractor suppliers. i think it's below rm1.. i dunno how cheap ori ones supposed to be... so who knows.. maybe ori low end really that cheap.. not sure also

Yeah, it's confusing too. I think maybe it's fake, considering a cheap Blum from Ikea costs 20. I haven't looked closely, but maybe the "A" in hafele doesn't have the dots like the actual brand.

My mom's dry kitchen cabinet has solid wood door, but she had them done at least a decade ago. Really strong stuff, until now only some of the hinges a bit wonky..

ikea cabinet user here. L shape make up of 9 cabinet with 1 corner type.
self assemble and been 8 years.

most look like new accept 2 door due to high wear n tear. hinges and roller drawer also still good.

good is i know i can change all door only to get new door panel and create new feel to kitchen.

wow thats cool. how hard to self assemble? one ppl can ar?

I assemble one person only. Std ikea SOP assembling.

IKEA provided a manual? Step-by-step?

of course. their stuff is meant to be assembled by you.

i wouldnt called it a "manual", more like a little booklet depending on how complicated the item is for assembly
its not easy to understand their drawings only....(no text instructions)
you can download and take a look to see if you can understand before buying -
eg. - http://www.ikea.com/my/en/assembly_instruc...55840-1_pub.pdf

found here - http://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/S29068400/

Yup, but i cant imagine asseble by single person esp when u want to put wall unit.

Their drawing are pretty good for DIY, i got many stuff from ikea, and non have stop me from assembling it.

If you are not confident, pay for the service. Most of the installer are pretty experience.

Thinking to customise besta for tv cAbinet

And you need the power tools too.

Any idea how they charge the installation?

it can be done by one person but two is advisable. kitchen installation is not hard. i have installed 3 or 4 kitchens with a friend in the last 15 yrs. the last one we used ikea installer cause it's pretty large. if you dont have the tools or skills go and pay for the installation - for the kitchen its totally worth the money as the installers that came to my place were very good.

IKEA is very reliable and of course with warranty it will put your mind at rest

Better quality is using blockboard /plywood as carcass. chipboard whether waterproof or not is still not as good.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3320875&hl=

For reference.

Thank you.

honestly i think in malaysia when it comes to kitchen the best bang for your buck is hands down ikea. it simply lasts longer, with next to no faults than any other product in the same price range and even higher than ikea. of course a blockboard might be more solid - i doubt the same would be true for plywood. the ones i saw tend to suffer from swelling or peeling. but then again that might have been the normal sucky quality contractors like to supply.

Hi guys, I am wondering do IKEA do outstation installation for kitchen? like penang?

there is no way ikea carcass material can beat plywood le. blockboard is already below plywood in strength so u can imagine where that ikea carcass material stand in terms of durability.

there is a reason why people dont make houses using mdf in any area...but still use plywood in some areas of construction.

sorry my idea of blockwood was different - i considered it as solid wood. but i stand by what i can see with my own eyes. the plywood used in many of my friends kitchen is of lousy quality. the sheets get wobbly or even get loose all together. that is not the case with the ikea kitchen (maybe they simply better moisture seal i dont know). many real life examples where you can easily see that they last long even in malaysia. you absolutely get the best bang for your buck with ikea kitchens in malaysia. feel free to convince me otherwise. my current kitchen is 8 yrs old and looks like new. no trace of warping, water damage or anything else. its in 99% new condition left a few scratches from a knife slipped here and there. i even have a 5 laundry room fitted with ikea kitchen and its totally @ 100% - though that place is much more moist. so i would always choose ikea again.

and btw a kitchen is certainly not a house so i would not want to consider MDF for kitchen contruction for a house construction. demand pattern is so entirely different. that doesnt mean its very suitable for what its used for. there is a reason why its in use (and no, its not just price - otherwise how to stick the warranty to it?).

make your own conclusions as you may. as i have not seen how badly done those plywood kitchen cabinets you mentioned. perhaps its down to workmanship
but material wise at board level there is no arguement which is strongest and most durable.



This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 13 2015, 08:55 AM

yes it probably boils down to the quality of either one used. as said, i have not seen any kitchen @ friends places that uses plywood and didnt warp. probaly a good one is too costly? i have also seen cheaper (not ikea) MDF ktichen that sucked badly. what i am saying is that the MDF used by IKEA is way better than the stuff you can get around the same price range from any other supplier. at least when i made my rounds for quotes and surveyed nobody offered me a better material and finish for the same price +/- 15%. bear in mind that i am NOT talking about the cheap range ikea kitchen but the "standard" modular kitchen. that stuff is very very well done - i dont think anyone will come and complain about that. their cheap range will probably not last - but that stuff is so dirt cheap you cant seriously expect it to last say 15-20 years anyway.

I am inclined to think that IKEA just cannot mass produce inferior quality cabinets that couldn't stand the test of time. They are known and proud of their kitchen especially when it's such a worldwide brand. Also I have not heard of any real complains from people who have used their kitchen cabinets. Plywood or not is a personal choice and unless MDF is proven to be very unreliable the argument of whether which is better is invalid.

my wardrobe made using plywood and wood veneer - the doors all warped within a few months of installing. carpenters was kind enough to replace all the doors - not cheap ok as the wood veneer used that time was black ebony and they have to change all 16 doors because must match the grain pattern. in the end, few months later it warped again. How bad? Bad enough that that the door cant close nicely. They cant figure out why.

I think they either didnt use enough hinges. Some manufacturers I see them using a piece of metal at the back of the door to prevent it from warping.

This post has been edited by idoblu: Nov 13 2015, 01:32 PM

Is Ikea kitchen cabinet cheaper than most of the kitchen cabinet contractor outside if we compare the same material ?( as in compare mdf board to mdf board, plywood to plywood etc)

must be using reject grade plywood materials lol. yes there are those types used for those who just want to use plywood to board up a construction area from plain sight.. thats like dirt cheap plys.. maybe rm30-40 for 4x8 feet panel 6-9mm

I don't think it's the panel itself that warps but the frame work

the frame is made out of plywood panel ma

anyway, if its used over long unsupported lengths (like over 3feet etc), block board maybe the proper application since its comprises of short pieces of low grade solid wood blocks

This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 13 2015, 06:29 PM

The weird thing is they took it back, lay it on its back and it straighten out by itself. It could be the hinges. Maybe not enough for a heavy door. Needs two at the top. Anyway they also scratching their heads.

Anyway lesson learned - now my wardrobe no doors no carcass 😁

This post has been edited by idoblu: Nov 13 2015, 06:36 PM

haha no wonder..

open system

No more funny wood/glue smell. No more sharp edges