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post Oct 10 2015, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 10 2015, 06:53 AM)
Anandtech review of the TSMC n Samsung chip. Read their conclusion summary. Is non conclusive.  Basically I feel is just an overblown issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9708/analyzi...-and-samsung-a9

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THE CONCLUSION
Wrapping things up then, where do we stand? The short answer is that all we know is that we don't know. What we know is that there isn't enough information currently out there to accurately determine whether the TSMC or Samsung A9 SoC has better power consumption, and more importantly just how large any difference might be. 1-on-1 comparisons under controlled conditions can provide us with some insight in to how the TSMC and Samsung A9s compare, but due to the natural variation in chip quality, it's possible to end up testing two atypical phones and never know it.

To that end I suspect that Apple's statement is not all that far off. They are of course one of the few parties able to actually analyze a large number of phones, and perhaps more to the point, having a wide variation in battery life on phones - even if every phone meets the minimum specifications - is not a great thing for Apple. It can cause buyers to start hunting down phones with "golden" A9s, and make other buyers feel like they've been swindled by not receiving an A9 with as low the power consumption as someone else. To be clear there will always be some variance and this is normal and expected, but if Apple has done their homework they should have it well understood and reasonably narrow. The big risk to Apple is that dual sourcing A9s in this fashion makes that task all the harder, which is one of the reasons why SoCs are rarely dual sourced.
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Still back to the same thing. Double sourcing a bad thing. Make consumer concerned for price point they are already paying. Everyone wants to have the best of chips as already paying 4K for a phone.
The discomfort perfectionist nagging feeling will always be there, especially with Apple fans who always want to get the best and latest. Every time they feel like their battery did not last long( always have that concern after iOS updates), they will question izzit bcoz of their Samsung chip causing that.
I guess it will be good for Apple, as those in doubt will get ip7 next year to try their luck on better chip.
Hopefully no more double sourcing in ip7.

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post Oct 14 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 14 2015, 09:03 AM)
You chaps have such complex characters  laugh.gif
All I care about is my phone having a black/dark face, so that basically means the space grey is my only option. I just don't like using bright faced phones, especially glossy white (reminds me of toilet ceramics) since I find it too distracting.
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Ditto! Exact same preference here.
Practicality and substance over style.
Black front is not that reflective and not hurting/tiring to the eye. Too bad only space grey has black front.
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post Oct 16 2015, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(DonDropUrSoap @ Oct 16 2015, 03:33 AM)
First time iPhone user here, upper right  area gets kinda hot while video calling:normal?

Haiz....unlucky one, mine is Samsung chip....
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Maybe u have ur own answer. Samsung chip.
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post Oct 17 2015, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Oct 17 2015, 12:02 AM)
bad economy, high price and the fact that is internal changes only could be factors for this.
next year when there is full redesign, I'm sure the hype will be back.
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Bad economy
So many company retrenching
Crazy toll increase rates
No external design phone changes
Many already bought 6/6+
Trade off of smaller battery capacity and might get Samsung chip for the price paid
Political unrest. Useless uncaring gov that impacts economy and currency.
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Need I say more?
Quickly fast forward to ip7 dy. I will be in queue then!
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post Oct 22 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:40 PM)
Do people genuinely find Assistive Touch useful, or are they just crazy paranoid about the health of their home button? Serious question, btw. I tried it once and it was just a liquid pain and got in the way more often than not.
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Incredibly useful especially now with ability to customize.
My favorite now is multitask shortcut and screenshot.
Lock screen no need to mention. A must have.
If only I can customize for on screen tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Oct 29 2015, 12:23 PM)
Bro... U see my siggy..i have been using android since i also cant remember when.

But once i use this iphone..i think i wont turn back to android anymore until they do something revolutionary..

Iphone is very easy to use..and battery life is awesome compare to my note 5 and s6..I finally realise that it is not samsung..but android itself has some problems that ios doesnt have..they need to optimise more in terms of battery life and the overall os ecosystem

Now for ur question..the camera on the note 5 is slightly better than the 6s+.. I cant deny that note 5 camera is just superb
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Fuyo. Don't get me started on Sammy and android. Think also fed up.
Everything leak here and there including data and battery.
Everyone have to go apps manager disable this and that. When there is an OS or app update, have to reverify the background settings again. Best example is disable SNS for Facebook app. Keep sucking battery like mad.
Also it will never obey your settings like disable app notification. Again must background disable stuff. I don't even want to go into Sammy junk apps. How many pre installed chat apps they want to force into our throat without allowing to uninstall? First I thought go android is good, no need to root Coz many features already available. Mana tau must root to disable/delete all the junks. Back to square one.
And then the OS updates. Reported security gaps? Like going into black hole. Once in a blue moon updates, whenever they like it.
Thank god I am back to iOS after 3yrs stint with android and Sammy.
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post Oct 30 2015, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(1likegadg3t @ Oct 30 2015, 08:43 AM)
So you bored using android now..for me I will not close my door to android...I like both:)
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Bored is not the correct word. Frustrated is.

If nexus officially sold here, can consider. At least don't have to wait years for ota updates.

Those Sammy and the rest, interested sell hardware only. Don't bother about Software support and security.

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post Oct 30 2015, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 30 2015, 11:53 AM)
Android is not that bad as you said but I do admit that Sammy updates really suck. Like you said, they are more interested in selling their products only. But Sammy have a lot of different models and updating all of them would be a lot of work.  laugh.gif
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Is it consumer fault?
Why consumer have to suffer for their shotgun full blast marketing tactic? U think their flagship phone cheap?
But now all prices cannot compare with iPhone sweat.gif
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post Oct 30 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(1likegadg3t @ Oct 30 2015, 12:26 PM)
even other android seller with less model difficult to update their phone..for sure for sammy its more difficult and lot work like you said. Sometimes also the new update its not good.
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Lol! While ironically in here we complain update too fast and frequent. Sometimes we really need to be grateful what we have...
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post Oct 31 2015, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(HwangTommy @ Oct 30 2015, 11:51 PM)
Officially used the iPhone 6s for one week! Loving it so far! My first ever iPhone!

Some things that I noticed:
1. Fluid fast! Fingerprint sensor is so fast!
2. 3D touch is really, really innovative.
3. Coming from Android, I still need to get used to some things. No back button, and the most annoying one for me so far is no notification icons.
4. Battery life is quite bad. Have to bring my powerbank everywhere now.
5. Like the 1st page says. NEVER, EVER get the 16GB model. I got the 16GB one and I am regretting. Apple should make the base model something like 32GB. Getting an OTG cable soon.
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What Tim Cook said must be true. Coz even in lyn forum here already can see so many switchers.
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/27/apple-...tchers-q4-2015/
3. True have to get use to no more keep pressing the back button. What notification icon? Icon so important meh?
4. First time I hear battery bad compared to androids battery leaks. Try turn off background app refresh. For the chats, turn on he notifications. New messages will be received in ur phone via push notification without sucking battery.

Welcome to iOS. U will never wanna go back to android.
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post Oct 31 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(mramyli87 @ Oct 31 2015, 12:54 AM)
From Samsung s6 edge to iPhone 6s+. Design wise I do prefer Samsung edge. But the fingerprint sensor on iPhone and the OS is the best in term of fast and smooth .No wonder Apple is king of smartphone. Apple iPhone 6s+ 64 GB silver report in
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Another convert. Good good keep it up.
Statistic don't lie.
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post Oct 31 2015, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 31 2015, 07:56 AM)
Agree, that's the one thing about iOS that turns me off. From a work point of view, using an Android tablet is faster and more productive, especially when the native email app allow you to attach just about any file you like, and not just photos. USB OTG is also a God sent.
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Apple want to lock u I their ecosystem that is why. Force u to use I cloud to attach docs and ppt.
With their proven record of software support , I am happy to be in the system. Unlike 3rd parties out there that is only happy to sell hardware.

Now pardon me while I go download Transistor game bought in iPad, and play it for free in Apple TV.
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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Oct 31 2015, 10:13 AM)
Hey guys, Im using the 6s and s6. previously was using 4s and s4. I would like to share my experience with these phones.
Android phone are generally better in specs. their freedom in OS is like a fire. "Its a good slave but a bad master." Prone to malware that hogs battery, privacy etc etc even when installing only from playstore, android users have to be careful of what they put in their phone. However once optimized well, it can out do the IOS(stock).
IOS on the otherhand, has a well optimized OS and apps that does not need much further optimization, supposedly allowed users to use the phone with ease of mind. (Unfortunately, recent hack of icloud and malware within the official appstores have tarnish this reputation). Because IOS is available in limited device, apps are generally more optimized to perform better in quality and battery consumption.
But if compared to 6S's 1715mAh vs S6 2550mAh, my personal experience, at stock 6s and s6, s6 will initially have better battery life. But as junks get installed more in both device, the 6s retain better battery life than s6. but after optimization of both device (root and jailbreaking) s6's additional raw +48% more battery has gave it better battery life again reaching 2-4 days with mobile data, while the s6 reaches 1-2days (as for now, as the tweaks for ios9 is still limited).

As uncle benny said, i agree that IOS close system is can be annoying even when attempting to perform basic task, eg transfering mp3/ office documents /email. But i have to disagree with the finger print recognition speed as i personally tested both phones... The time it takes to unlock to open an app is actually the same. IOS response to unlocks faster by displaying unlocking animations thus creating an illusion that it unlocks faster.

Camera for S6 blows 6s away is 9/10 situations(partly due to apple decision not to include IOS in 6s). the only advantage of the 6S camera is the FoD and retain of actual colors in the photo.

Apple product at its price is somewhat used by ppl who can. Not sure if true or not for u guys, but Apple does give the "wow" image factor to an iphone user and ppl tend to see apple differently as a phone. And if given a choice, most average ppl would wish  to have the 6S over S6.

I'm summary, I recommend  the S6 for its hardware and 6S for its software. 6S is easy to learn for all level of users, while S6 can be a lil challenging. In terms of functionality, S6 flexibility allow easier to get task done compared with 6S. At the end, its up to the user's personal preference and usage.
If it still does not make sense to you, just imagine cars, which performs better, automatic or manual?

just my personal opinion and may differ from others.
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1 thing I learned with my 3 years using 2 different Sammy flagships: hardware specs means nuts without optimization. Hence apple's reluctant and recent upgrade to 2gb, yet still more fluid than any Sammy phone regardless of its 3gb/4.
But Apple is really hard ass stubborn. I recall how I missed the share links to whatsapp feature in android when convert to Apple. But things are looking good now with Apple start releasing API for sharing data between apps.
Sometimes we need android there to keep Apple to loosen up its system locks.
The truth cannot be said the other way round. See how Apple influenced android to be less flexible? Where is sd ram now? Removable battery? Remember how Sammy keep coming up with ads to mock Apple on these features? Really a shame they swsllowing their own words.
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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Nov 1 2015, 01:07 AM)
Because i only used Samsung S4, S6 and Xiaomi Mi4i (and iphone 4S and 6S), i cannot comment on other android phone. But I do agree with you that hardware means nuts without optimization. Hence if one does not want to go thru the fuss of optimizing device, I always recommend an Iphone but warn of paying the price for its optimized OS.

I would like to add on that Samsung and Apple has always been copying each other. These 2 companies have been repeatedly suing each other for patent infringement since 2011.(or maybe much earlier?)
Mocking Samsung dropping the battery and ext memory is the same as mocking Apple for abandoning their proclaimed perfect single phone size of 4/4s size and later copying Samsung's S and Note series sizes at 2014. Its okay to swallow own words as people do make mistakes and subsequently improve in the future.
As the saying "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." ALBERT EINSTEIN

Now whats interesting is, Samsung has always been avoiding direct competition (by offering alternate specs like bigger screen, removable battery, ext sd, stylus pen) with apple. Until 2014 where, Apple made the decision to take on Samsung flagship head on by matching its phone sizes at 2014. Subsequently Samsung on the other hand have discontinued their laptop products to divert resources into their mobile dept. Instead of avoiding direct competition again, off goes the removable battery and ext memory Samsung did. It would be really interesting to watch the romance between these 2 companies in the future.

As for myself, im Neutral of both sides. I use the Iphone 6S and Samsung S6 concurrently. These facts i state above is to share my understanding, and not intended to offend any iphone/samsung fans. If i do, i apologize in advance.
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I am very sure they copy each other. In fact all mobile phone copy each other now. Just look at recent phones with visible antenna bands. But 1 thing I am more sure is the decision to provide bigger size, is forced onto Apple by their fans. Not copy per se. Many have been leaving Apple just due to their sheer ego of sticking to small phones. Even I left bcoz of this. And and that time, also lack of such simple request like a command center/notification center. I guess keep complaining via Apple forum and u will get.
Yes I used to miss android for its freedom previously. No longer the case now since Apple has been listening to feedback and opening up more and more API to 3rd party. Apple OTG? Don't think I will see it in my lifetime. sad.gif

Now waiting for Sammy to copy features like handoff or picking up calls from tablets when their phone rings. Or they have done it already? With their OS versions segmented like this, I believe it will take ages for them to copy these features?

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Nov 1 2015, 08:59 AM)
There are already in the market various otg devices in market since last year. Most famous is SanDisk ixpand drives. I bought the 64gb unit but seriously it falls way behind vs Android alternatives. I had bought another one where you can even attached a ext microsd card however file copying over is erratic n often faced incomplete copy at 50-60% for files above 300mb n it was a waste of money
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Bcoz it's not from Apple direct but 3rd party. When Apple launch new features, it's about total revamp and not just gimmicks to sell the hardware. I guess it's a positive step now that Apple start allowing these 3rd party accessories and apps.
It will only improve in time.
OTG for keyboards and mouse still not supported yet. I guess apple's another stubborn decision that all those can be achieved via Bluetooth 4.0?
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QUOTE(weiheng @ Nov 2 2015, 11:29 AM)
for the back button, u just need to swipe right to go back
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U don't understand. We ex-androiders have the habit of keep pressing the back button to close all apps. Since android is so u responsive. Example: keep pressing 5 times in a second.
No amount of right swipe can replace that feel.
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Now this is what I call ppl pay millions also dowan to use android. Ironically James Bond movies are from Sony pictures.
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/15...y-uses-the-best
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QUOTE(OKLY @ Nov 2 2015, 04:57 PM)
Why is it so difficult to get AirDrop to work? Both 6s can't seem to find each other even when AirDrop is selected to show everyone.
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Eh? Mine ok only. Both devices Bluetooth on and on same wifi?
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QUOTE(OKLY @ Nov 2 2015, 08:21 PM)
Must both device/phone be connected to the same WiFi? It should work without being connected to the same WiFi network right as sometimes we don't have a WiFi network to connect to?
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As per the link above.
AirDrop doesn’t work without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, hence you need to check if Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are turned on in your iDevice.
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Nov 3 2015, 12:01 AM)
I know that feeling. I always look for back button on my iPhone. But I also look for the floating assitive button while I'm on android laugh.gif doh.gif
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