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Ramjade
post Oct 28 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2015, 10:21 AM)
calm down la buddy. these new guys just seeking free advise and do not want to do their research and still ask stupid questions.
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I can accept it if there are no change in time (remain static). But we know that's not true. It can increase or decrease after time. But if time is factored in, no of units is important. No?

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post Oct 28 2015, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 28 2015, 10:56 AM)
Ahem... the person who is challenging the basic principle of unit trust investment is also someone whom I remember saying "ASX is equivalent but more superior than fixed deposits"  doh.gif

So honestly, I'm not surprised and I would just ignore. I've given up highlighting to people that it's clearly stated in ASX master prospectus that neither the capital nor the dividends of the funds are guaranteed... so seriously, which part of it looks like FD other than you can redeem immediately
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Sorry bro, Pinky Spider My mistake. I think I start to understand about what's posted on front page.

It might not be highlighted in the MP about capital and dividends guaranteed. Well I list it out how it's equivalent and superior to FD.
1) You buy and sell at RM1/unit. You tell me how can your capital is not guaranteed unless pnb goes kaput? No SC.
2) FD interest most is 4.X%. ASX FP have been giving out consistent 6.x% per year. Yes is not guaranteed the dividends but think, if they give less than that, how many people will pull out? Now, we can't have that can we. Besides they have reserves to give consistent returns to during bad times.
3) National interest bro. We can't let something happen to national interest can we?

So now you have it, capital is "protected". "Consistent" of >=6.X% returns per year for >10 Years. What more you want? May not be FD, but it looks like FD.

And pinky, you may speak bad about asx fp, but let me tell you that I know someone who managed to double his original amount just by putting into asx fp (no topup just dividends). It might be slower compare to fsm, but he still manage to double his original amount.

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post Oct 28 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 11:17 AM)
I never said FD>ASX

But I said MANY Variable Price funds like UTs could > Fixed Price funds like ASX

ASX gave u 6% p.a. for many years now, yes

But go see historical performance of superstars like Kenanga Growth Fund, AMB Dividen Trust, Eastspring Equity Income and Affin Hwang Select Opportunity, and yeah those are 100% equity funds

U may even compare against less volatile Balanced Funds like RHB KidSave Trust, Affin Hwang Select Balanced/Select Income.

Yes, there are ups and downs.

But in the long term? Bagai Man City vs Sunderland yawn.gif
U pay for your (false sense of) stability with lesser returns

Sorry Sunderland fans tongue.gif
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I know. Hence I will treat asx fp as FD. But I will start to venture into FSM once I can remove my money from some where (not asx) whistling.gif

QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 28 2015, 11:18 AM)
This is FSM thread, so I'm not going to go into details of what 'look and smell' like FD is actually very different from FD if you care to read up on the details

But I do agree with you on national interest whole-heartedly. After talking to the folks in the ASX thread I realise why MY has this and how does it contribute to our share market or even economy as a whole

But personally I don't like what I read in the financial statements, so you guys can go ahead, I don't like to be kept in the dark, I'd like to know how much I made or lost, however ugly it may be. And after 2 years of putting money in unit trust, I think I can handle the occasional ups and downs
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Well some Unker and aunties cannot handle up and down. They just want stability and consistent returns which can give better returns than FD. smile.gif Some person just dumped rm3m into it. shocking.gif

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post Oct 28 2015, 11:51 AM

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dasecret, sign me up if fees is less than fsm's. tongue.gif

yklooi Must have slighty higher and consistent returns yearly then only can work. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:46 PM

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For those who wants to put efd,

Best is maybank Islamic efd 1 month 3.25% min rm5k
Ambank Islamic efd, 1 month 3.15%, minimum rm1k.

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post Oct 28 2015, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 28 2015, 04:45 PM)
I use Maybank2U, Cimbclicks might have it too
Public bank is like a dinasaur when it comes to internet banking  laugh.gif
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Here you go
For those who wants to put efd,

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Best is maybank Islamic efd 1 month 3.25% min rm5k
Ambank Islamic efd, 1 month 3.15%, minimum rm1k.

Note: Maybank have conventional efd which gives only 3.15%. Same tenure with their Islamic efd but lesser by 0.1%
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post Oct 28 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 28 2015, 05:09 PM)
Mbb islamic FD average per annum is 4.5%.

I think ambank is d highest 4.6% but 2 yrs.
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Correction: that is over the counter
The one I posted is for those who want to put efd for 1 month. Able to put and uplift online

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post Nov 2 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 2 2015, 02:48 PM)
If newbie say like this is forgivable; but Labah-Labah Merah Jambu say like this is unforgivable!

Xuzen
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Er, maybe pinky too much money? Hand is itchy? tongue.gif
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post Nov 2 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 2 2015, 09:51 PM)
Yes, no more. That post was a made-up story lar...but it's so common at the casino, and also in the market.

Don't ever fall for that.

Play responsibly icon_rolleyes.gif
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But if people with "Henry sugar" ability. whistling.gif
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post Nov 4 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 4 2015, 02:31 PM)
Welcome to FSM.

Diversify. Divide your funds. Use DCA for 12 months if you are investing RM10K or more. Perhaps you can consider:-

1.  1 Global Equity Fund
2.  1 Asia Pacific Equity Fund (ex Japan)
3.  1 Malaysian Equity Fund
4.  1 Malaysian Bond Fund
5.  1 Asian Bond Fund

Forget about supplementary portfolio, i.e. investing in a single sector or single country fund for the time being.

Put RM1K each in every of the above fund. But if you are printing money and are investing RM100K, then can put a bit more into each fund and DCA the rest for the next 12 months. You can also try Value Averaging if you have the time.

Note : Some sifus here would include an Emerging Markets Fund or BRIC but I find the FSM funds for these markets so, so only.

Decision...decision....where to start? Perhaps look at FSM's Recommended List of Funds as a starting guide?

Also read, read and read more on the topic of unit trusts. Good luck.
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Care to explain how to use dca from fsm? Is the dca = dual currency account?

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post Nov 4 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 4 2015, 02:38 PM)
Eh? No. No. DCA = Dollar Cost Average. Eg. if you have RM10K, you invest RM1K to open an equity fund. Then for the remaining 9 months, you deposit RM1k every month into the fund.
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Like this sure incur SC of 2%. No? if yes, isn't it better to dump all rm10k inside while SC is 0% (new member feature given by fsm)
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post Nov 4 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 4 2015, 02:56 PM)
Q:  What are the New Account Benefits?

A: With effect from 02/02/2012, Fundsupermart.com Malaysia will be providing exclusive benefits to new account holders.
These benefits include:

1) Sales charge capped at a maximum of 1% (normal FSM sales charge is 2%).

2) Regular Savings Plan (RSP) sales charge capped at 1% for first 6 monthly deductions.

These benefits are applicable to UNLIMITED purchases of ANY unit trust, up to a period of 30 calendar days upon account activation.

more in here
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/0...t-Benefits-5904
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Sorry. My mistake. Isn't it last time 0% SC for 30 days? hmm.gif

So after the first 30 days, activate the RSP, then you get total of 7 months SC at 1%?

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post Nov 4 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 4 2015, 03:23 PM)
I consider it as part of an investor's gambling portfolio. I used to have AmPrecious Metals. Made more than RM1k within a short time. Lost a few hundred after that. Strictly for fun. Not for my long term investment.

If I wish to invest in gold, I would rather open a Maybank gold account. Why should I incur the sales fee, the annual management expenses and trustee fees with a gold equity fund when the Sharpe Ratio is NEGATIVE 0.84 and the annualised volatility is 30.83%?
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Btw, you hold the funds or sell when it have made a profit (like share)?
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post Nov 4 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 4 2015, 03:36 PM)
Depends lor. If it is part of my gambling portfolio, then I would sell the entire fund after I make a profit. This usually applies for highly volatile funds like gold. This forms a very small part of the overall portfolio.

But for good funds meant for long term investment like Ponzi 2 and CIMB Global Titans, we buy and hold. When we made profit, we can either let it ride or switch out the excess profit quarterly as part of our portfolio re-balancing.

Unit trusts cannot be treated like shares when we buy and sell on a regular basis. The costs itself will kill us. But wait a minute. We have credit points for FSM where we can buy and sell for free. But still I think we shouldn't do it as part of our long term investment strategy.

Between (1) buying and selling the entire fund method on a regular basis and (2) buy and hold method with periodic rebalancing, No. 2 wins hand down.
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Ok. Thanks for answering. Say one got fund A, B, C, D, if one does not rebalance but instead dump in RM500 every month into each fund A, B, C, D, is that OK?

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post Nov 5 2015, 08:02 AM

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Guys can recommend me a good prs? Want to keep it for future reference for tax relief.
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post Nov 5 2015, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Nov 5 2015, 08:49 AM)
Got lah... Usually got a call from agent asking me to dump my hard earned money into a newly launched fund.  : sad.gif
If I listened to them, I would have ended up owning over 30 funds now.  doh.gif
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Every transaction you do, they earned commission regardless you make a loss or profit. mad.gif vmad.gif
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post Nov 10 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Nov 10 2015, 01:35 PM)
Too troublesome. Not sure if it's worth the effort
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It's worth it. If the amounts large. Say >=rm100,000, 2% is rm2k.

But not sure if it is applicable or not.

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 15 2015, 10:47 AM)
Read that so many people topping up Titans.

So everyone is thinking US/Europe is the better region to top up now? If ringgit strengthens in 2016, that would hurt Titans no? So foresee ringgit won't improve?

Personally I feel must improve la. If not cannot go vacation la.
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Er, care to share how to improve? Oil prices won't go up anytime, local stuff also not going away, US keep saying want to raise rates.
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post Nov 15 2015, 10:55 AM

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You guys check your funds everyday or every week or only once a Month?
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post Nov 15 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 15 2015, 10:59 AM)
Oil price is as good as anyone guess. Let's wait for OPEC December.

Local stuff has been dragging. There was a time where things are hot, now died down again.

US been saying want raise hike how many years already. Keep dragging. Yes, things are looking to materialize in December it seems. But gradually. Knee jerk effect yes, but I think most already priced in already.

Foreign outflow from China, Malaysia etc had been great for this year. How much can flow out? Most are already out.

So you are saying top up Titans betting on ringgit further weakening and Dollar continue to strengthen?
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Me don't invest in FSM yet. tongue.gif Just looking at this thread for future use. Topup everything evenly?

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