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Ramjade
post Nov 15 2015, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(jerk @ Nov 15 2015, 01:48 PM)
hoping those with experience in PRS to help me out.

1. PRS sales charges at FSM is always 0% and not just because of the November promotion

2. contribute at least rm 1000 within calendar year to get the rm 500 youth incentive provided I satisfy the other eligibility requirement listed in p p a . m y

3. do I get up to rm 3000 tax relief every year even though I just contributed rm1000 once this year? or do I have to contribute certain amount each year to get the up to rm 3000?

4. is there a deadline to invest in PRS by, in order to qualify for the rm 3000 tax relief for this year?
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I think you need to buy rm3000 worth of prs units yo qualify. Of course don't simply buy. Buy one which can give you returns.

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Ramjade
post Nov 16 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 16 2015, 02:30 PM)
sorry guys been reading through this thread,

my objective is just to get some tax saving so in short i just register at FSP and purchase one of the PRS fund worth RM3k

then retain all receipts and claim in next year filing right ?
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Don't just buy prs for tax - relief. Buy a prs that's able to generate some returns. That way you are not burning your rm3k. You are still profiting from the returns generated by the prs. smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 16 2015, 02:38 PM)
i think there are about 7 or 6 more years for the tax incentive right ?
then i might put in 3k yearly and if the return is good enough then i might just continue contributing..for now let me enjoy some tax saving for few hundreds first  tongue.gif

btw my understanding in my earlier post is correct ?  hmm.gif
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Yes. You are right. Buy rm3k worth and keep the receipt. If is in pdf file, you can send an email to yourself with the receipt attached. That way your pdf file will not disappear.
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post Nov 20 2015, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 19 2015, 09:57 PM)
Cpu still can use..  So only monitor. Will try to check my monitor again over the weekend see still got hope or not..
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Off topic. Get a Samsung monitor. Very lasting!
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 27 2015, 01:41 PM)
That's why I rarely top up when things are rosy, I always top up when things are gloomy tongue.gif

Unless, annual bonus one large chunk moolah come in, no choice but to top up whether rain or shine blush.gif
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So if you don't topup when it's good, where do you park the money in the meantime? hmm.gif
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 27 2015, 01:44 PM)
RHB
CASH
MANAGEMENT
FUND

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What's the average returns?
Ramjade
post Dec 3 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 3 2015, 01:28 PM)
Me 2  icon_idea.gif
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What's so great about fsm year end sales? What's the discount?
Ramjade
post Dec 5 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 01:55 PM)
The average rate return of Ponzi 2.0 over a three year period is 16.97% p.a.

the fund YTD is 7.26%.

The standard-deviation is 8.24%

This means that as of now; the fund YTD rate of return is below one standard deviation. This means that with 95% confidence, there is more than 67% probability that the fund will move towards the average point.

If you are a gambler, would you money down on such chance?

Xuzen
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Sorry noob question. The average returns is yearly ponzi 2.0 is expected to be ~16% or is it 5.X% (16.97/3)?
Ramjade
post Dec 5 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 02:12 PM)
satu tahun = 17%, no bad right?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

titan is > 20%

small cap > 30%  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

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Not bad. Not bad. But no money. laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 5 2015, 04:29 PM)
U know now why I lazy layan him? whistling.gif

It's like, 15 years old lesen pun belum ada, nak tanya what car is best to buy yawn.gif
By the time dapat lesen, new models already come out yawn.gif
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Money ada but lock up. Need to get back my modal at least before putting into FSM. tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 04:40 PM)
Lock up mana? Geneva Gold? Pegasus bullion?  cry.gif

Xuzen
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ASG. Taruh last year. 5% SC. Then after taruh, it drop from rm1.20 to rm0.90 so you can see how much losses I make. mad.gif vmad.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 5 2015, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 10:45 PM)
Amanah Saham TAK Gemilang LOL thumbup.gif
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Sadly correct. sad.gif
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post Dec 6 2015, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 6 2015, 12:22 AM)
Drop bcoz of split or distribution?  hmm.gif
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Drop because Bursa kl drop like a stone few months after I put. Not sure if it have recovered to its original value or not. Of yes, going to withdraw all of that and hentam fsm.
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post Dec 6 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 6 2015, 01:40 AM)
your current ASG investment status u are unsure?
yet u are more concern on FSM that not even u have account yet rclxub.gif

Boss, action better than talk. Let's start off from diversify your investment now, just register and put some additional cash to invest in some of the best performing fund available.

Market is fluctuate, who knows by the time u hentam this FSM its repeat your nightmare and by the time u leave ASG its bull run.

No need to hentam in one go, just start from bit by bit .. small chunk got little profit also. Time and tide wait for no man
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Out of malaysia and NAV of asg can only be seen over the counter.
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post Dec 6 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 6 2015, 12:26 PM)
thumbup.gif  btw nav for asnb funds always RM 1.000 isn't it ? what investor need concern is the distribution and bonus by every 1st Jan.
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That's for fixed price fund which is like FD on steroids, no SC. The other one is variable price fund where value is based on changing NAV, which incurred a 5% SC upon buying.

Since it is variable priced fund, it makes FSM seems much more interesting with only 2% SC and higher returns.

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post Dec 7 2015, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 7 2015, 11:02 AM)
If ASG is a indication of the actual performance of ASM, ASW etc, you still want to think ASM and the likes are FD on steroids?!!!

rclxub.gif  doh.gif

But I'm supposed to stop myself from commenting anymore about this matter
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As long as continue buy and sell at rm1/unit, no SC, dividend paid out at 6.X%, instant redemption, who cares the actual indicator.

Besides fixed priced funds are considered "national interest" (official reply from asnb)

If is not good, why do you think it's often sold out?

But anyway is OT.

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post Dec 7 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 7 2015, 11:39 AM)
The point I'm trying to make, which you keep missing, is relevant to this thread

Based on ASG Oct 2015 factsheet, the 1 year return is -5.58%; 3 years annualised return is 2.42%

Contrast this with what you can buy on FSM
Kenanga growth fund
1year - 7.81%
3 years annualised - 19.0%

Eastspring Small-cap
1year - 7.14%
3 years annualised - 33.7%

How does this contrast with the dividends paid out by the fixed price funds?
As1M - 6.4%
ASW - 6.4%

So... tell me again, what is making ASx more attractive than to invest on other equity funds? The only thing I can think of is, the 'perceived no loss' situation... which I don't want to go into yet another time

anyway, cut loss is what I would advise anyone in your situation to do instead of holding on for another 3 years to earn the measly 2.42% and lose out of the 33.7% you could have made

As to your question on why no good still sold out?
Simple - People's aversion to losses and not realise that although on the face it's not losing money, you are losing money is so many ways... Do we have to be those people?  whistling.gif

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True but where can you find something with consistent returns of ~6.X% p.a regardless of good or bad market conditions with near perfect "capital guaranteed"? The only one I can think off is FD.

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post Dec 7 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2015, 02:12 PM)
Ramjade aka ASx fanboy...
If you say put RM 5,000.00 into it; and withdraw it less than one year before they declare dividend, will you still get the pro-rated dividend?

Xuzen
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Yes. Provided you leave rm100 inside and also if you deposit before the 1st of every month. If you withdraw all, no dividends will be paid.

Eg
If you buy rm1000 worth of units today, no dividends for the month of Dec.
If you buy rm1000 on 31/12, 1/1 you will get dividends for January.
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post Dec 7 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2015, 02:18 PM)
Eh... like this can use ASx as a hedging mechanism.

When market SH1T, masuk ASx...

When market H4WT, masuk FSM.

Fuyoh.... like having a wife and still get to be a Playaz!

Xuzen
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But must depends whether you have luck to try or not. Few months back, you can just pick how much you want to taruh. Now is hard. Sometimes rm100 also cannot get.

Btw, I thought if market is shit, buy more?
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post Dec 7 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2015, 02:30 PM)
Like this ar.... need to depend on luck some more wan ar?

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Yup. Unfortunately that's the sad part.

Unless you vip customer of certain bank, you can just leave your book there and ask the counter staff to try when they are not busy. Before bank close, just go and sign all the documents.

There are some who does that.

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