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FaezFarhan
post Dec 10 2015, 04:51 PM

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Recommendation for a gaming rig under Rm2k or rm2.5k without monitor, casing, keyboard & mouse, speaker, and I also have a 120gb ssd for os.
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post Dec 10 2015, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Dec 10 2015, 04:54 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 805
Asus H81M-K - RM 240
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 179
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90310-10M - RM 799
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
Total - 2576 (Techview price inclusive GST)
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I already have a casing. So I can use it for the ram perhaps. Is the latest i5 expensive? The one with DDR4.
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post Dec 10 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 10 2015, 05:49 PM)
Your current casing is ATX form factor, or at least mATX? (Just have to make sure it can fit the mobo)

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI H110M Pro-VH - RM 329
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90310-10M - RM 799
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189

Total: RM 2541 (Techview price inclusive GST)

Latest Skylake i5 is same price as Haswell i5, the problem is the mobo which can support DDR4 is expensive, the lowest end chipset (H110) with DDR4 support is going to cost you RM 329, which is significantly more expensive than DDR3 based mobo.
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I see. I have a NZXT Phantom 410 casing so it shouldn't be a problem I think. Specs above looks great for the budget. But is the mobo good enough?

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post Dec 11 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 10 2015, 06:57 PM)
It is the lowest end chipset, you can top up RM 70 for MSI B150 Bazooka D4 to get 2 extra RAM slots and more SATA ports.
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I'd probably go for the B150. Will be going to kl at the end of the year. Which shop would you guys recommend me to go to buy all those hardware?
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post Dec 13 2015, 05:03 PM

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How much would Windows 10 be? Would have to reserve some cash from the budget for that too I guess.
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post Dec 14 2015, 02:16 AM

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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150 Bazooka D4 - RM399
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90310-10M - RM 799
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189

Total: RM 2611 (Techview price inclusive GST)


What if I add RM300 more for a Sapphire Nitro R9 390x 4gb? Would it make a lot of a difference in performance? How does MSI Bazooka D4 compare to MSI Gaming M3?
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post Dec 14 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2015, 08:49 AM)
R9 390X for extra RM 300? RM 1099? Or you mean R9 380X?

Which MSI Gaming M3? B150 one?
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Opps sorry, R9 380x. But after surfing the net a bit last night, found out that the R9 cards need double to amount of power compared to the GTX960/970 cards.

http://www.lelong.com.my/sapphire-nitro-r9...6-11-Sale-P.htm

Yea, the B150 one. What is the difference between B150 & B170?

Sorry, I have left the hardware community for so long. Was an avid hardware fan until the HD4850/4870 era. Then I bought a Macbook Air and after that a ps4. Left it until today and I am left behind completely now in the hardware community. Will try my best to learn as fast as possible.
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post Dec 14 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2015, 04:03 PM)
Yep, AMD card requires more power compared to same tier's Nvidia card, so if you want to get AMD card, you are advised to top up some money for better PSU.

The difference between B150 and H170 isn't huge, H170 can support up to 8 USB 3.0 ports (support still based on manufacturer though) and RAID support etc. You can just get B150 chipset mobo if you are not going to use the features offered by H170, B150 is slightly cheaper than H170 in overall.

Learning needs time so no worries, take your time  nod.gif
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I see, instead of adding money for a better PSU, I think it's wiser to go for the GTX970. Haha! I can minus the HDD from the list because I have 2 500gb HDDs from my old PC and use the money for the graphic card, or probably better ram.

Would the i5 6400 bottleneck the GTX970?

Yeah, I don't think I will be using all those features so the B150 would be enough. Thank you so much for all the help btw, very helpful indeed 😁

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post Dec 14 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2015, 05:42 PM)
An i5 can hardly bottleneck a GTX970 but it still has to depend on what games you play, those CPU demanding games will likely to hit max usage on all cores.

i5 6400 is 0.5GHz slower than i5 6500 (base clock), you can consider to upgrade to i5 6500 for slightly better base clock performance.
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I see, okay. Will go for the i5 6500, or i5 6600 if my budget allows. Is the Zotac GTX970 good enough? Rm600 difference from the GTX960.
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post Dec 14 2015, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Dec 14 2015, 08:56 PM)
For me, the slightly faster/slower base clock don't take much effect. But it's up to you to choose which model you wtb. laugh.gif

are you mean the 970 is RM600 expensive than 960?

I think if you can afford 970, I don't see the reason why you go for 960. Take some time for survey the benchmark between both and you will get the answer. brows.gif
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I see. Yeah, RM600 more expensive but it's the cheapest one I found. Zotac, christmas promotion from Techview. Not the amp version, or Asus etc. Will survey as much as I can too.
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post Dec 16 2015, 03:23 AM

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Guys, the B150 states that it supports 2133Mhz DDR4. Meaning it won't support rams like the HyperX Fury 2666Mhz?
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post Dec 16 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(silentxoblivion @ Dec 16 2015, 07:43 AM)
You can use it but the board will throttle down the RAM to its highest supported frequency, 2133 Mhz.
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Ah I see. No use in getting the high speed rams then. Only very expensive keyboard supports higher than 2133Mhz.
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post Dec 16 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 16 2015, 02:36 PM)
Keyboard?!?!  laugh.gif

Only Z series mobo supports > 2133MHz for DDR4.
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Oh dayum, motherboard I meant.. Hahahaha!

What's the cheapest Z series you can find? Probably around rm800-900? Too much I suppose. But I don't like the 'naked' value rams sweat.gif
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post Dec 16 2015, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 16 2015, 03:52 PM)
You can look for Kingston HyperX Fury series RAM, just around RM 30 - RM 50 more expensive than value RAM, much cheaper than getting a Z series mobo.
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Yea, currenty looking at :-

Intel i5-6500 - Rm876
Intel i5-6600 - Rm987

Asus B150 Pro Gaming Aura - Rm559
MSI B150 Bazooka D4 - Rm399

Kingston Hyper-X Fury 8gb 2400Mhz - Rm239
FSP Hexa+ 550w - Rm189

Zotac GTX960 - Rm799
Zotax GTX970 - Rm1399
Zotax GTX970 Extreme Core - Rm1650

WD Blue 1TB HDD - Rm215
Keyboard & Mouse - Rm200

Re-use - Casing, SSD, Xonar Soundcard, Monitor, DVD-Rom.


Any improvements going for 16gb ram, or unnecessary for now?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 16 2015, 08:07 PM)
Not necessary if not heavy multitasking or doing rendering work.
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I see. Wonder if I should wait a bit more and get the i7 6700 instead.. Hmm
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post Dec 17 2015, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(kaliku @ Dec 17 2015, 04:16 PM)
I think you can get the 8gb hyperx fury ram for about rm188 on lazada. Saw it at that price few days ago.
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That's the DDR3 one. DDR4 is quite expensive on Lazada.
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post Dec 18 2015, 04:08 AM

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Will the replacement models for GTXxxx series come out soon? What's the life cycle of Nvidia GTX cards?
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post Dec 18 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 18 2015, 07:30 AM)
Due to out in Q1/Q2 2016. Life cycle is different for each series because there is no fixed timeline on how Nvidia rolls out new series.
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I see, quite close already.. Heard the new architecture is very powerful.. But I guess I'll just go with the current one first.. That's why I'm thinking of getting the i7 instead of the i5, for future proofing.
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 18 2015, 04:20 PM)
Pascal and HBM2  brows.gif
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Exactly! I will cry if it launches early sweat.gif
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Can the FSP Hexa+ 550w run the Zotac GTX970 Amp!?

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