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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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FaezFarhan
post Dec 21 2015, 04:59 AM

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What is the difference between the Zotax GTX 970 Amp Extreme and the Amp Extreme Core? The clock looks faster on the Amp Extreme Core, but the Amp Extreme card looks godly!
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 21 2015, 08:40 AM)
The AMP! Extreme takes 3 slots and make sure your case has enough clearance to fit it.

Mainly cooling and design difference, the small difference of core and memory clock maybe will only bring 1 to 3 FPS difference but you can overclock the slower card to match the fastest card as always if you wish.
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So it's basically up to personal design preference? The Amp Extreme looks way better for me but it's quite bulky. The light ID is kinda cool. And it also looked as it has a lot more features.
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 21 2015, 09:23 AM)
Yup, it applies to other brands too, all are using same GTX970 Maxwell chip, so performance will be within the similar range, it is just the matter of personal brand preferences/price/design/features etc.

The Extreme card is very huge compared to other cards, it would take 3 slots so the max SLI you can achieve with it is 2-way SLI only.
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I see. And it's a bit of cheaper I think compared to the Extreme Core? I have still yet to decide on which to go. I don't mind the space it takes actually. The design of the Amp Extreme looks high-end compared to the basic design of the Extreme Core. But I do have a Xonar sound card to fit.
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post Dec 21 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 21 2015, 10:05 AM)
You still can find Extreme? I tried to search but found nothing  sweat.gif
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I'm not too sure if there's stock but I saw one on Heavy Arm online store.


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post Dec 21 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 21 2015, 01:20 PM)
Can try to ask and see what's the reply.
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Wonder why it's hard to find this model. Maybe it's been replace by the Extreme Core? Which one would you go for? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:35 AM

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How's the FSP Raider compared to the FSP Hexa+?
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post Dec 22 2015, 07:41 PM

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I've made a few just to compare. Might fit in to one's budget. Although you'd need to add Rm200 for the HDD and also a bit more for the casing.

Intel i5-6400 - Rm809
MSI B150 Bazooka - Rm399
Zotac GTX960 - Rm799
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2400mhz - Rm239
FSP Hexa+ 550w - Rm189
Rm2435

Inter i5-6500 - Rm876
MSI B150 Bazooka - Rm399
Zotac GTX970 - Rm1399
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2400mhz - Rm239
FSP Hexa+ 550w - Rm189
Rm3102

Intel i5-6500 - Rm876
Asus B150 Pro Gaming Aura - Rm559
Zotac GTX970 Extreme Core - Rm1650
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2666mhz - Rm270
FSP Raider 650w - Rm288
Rm3643 (you could save around rm132 from psu & ram)

Intel i7-6700 - Rm1389
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Rm759
Zotac GTX970 Extreme Core - Rm1650
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2666mhz - Rm270
FSP Raider 650w - Rm288
Rm4386
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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Dec 22 2015, 07:46 PM)
Actually no reason to really go for RAM that has more than 2133mhz on B150 and H170 mobo's due to limitation.

Can save an additional RM 40 there. Unless for aesthetic
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Mostly for aesthetic but the value ram on Techview page is nearly the same price. Is it Rm200 instead?

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 22 2015, 07:46 PM)
You don't need the Z170 for the last build since you picked a locked i7.
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Good point there, I actually went for the Z mobo to support the full speed of the RAM.

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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Dec 22 2015, 07:58 PM)
Yeah CORSAIR 8GB DDR4 2133MHZ - RM200
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post Dec 23 2015, 02:08 PM

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Which one would you go for?

i7-6700K - Rm1509
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Rm759
Zotac GTX 970 - Rm1399
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2666mhz - Rm270
FSP Raider 650w - Rm288
Rm4225

Intel i7-6700 - Rm1389
Asus B150 Pro Gaming Aura - Rm559
Zotac GTX970 Extreme Core - Rm1650
HyperX Fury DDR4 8gb 2666mhz - Rm270
FSP Raider 650w - Rm288
Rm4156
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post Dec 23 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Dec 23 2015, 02:39 PM)
I go for RM4225

only RM69 diff.. unless u want to purchase xtra fan  tongue.gif
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Different gpu btw
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 23 2015, 03:53 PM)
I'll pick first one since it is unlocked  brows.gif

Both GPU are different model but still having same GTX970 chip so performance difference will be small between them.
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I see. I think the difference between the CPU is more significant right? 3.4Ghz compared to 4.0Ghz. I like the design of the Amp! Extreme core but not sure whether the extra Rm250 is worth it or not.
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post Dec 23 2015, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ Dec 23 2015, 09:38 PM)
u pay for high factory OC.. and the light; blue to red when load.  brows.gif
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That's for the Amp! Extreme only I think, this is the Amp! Extreme Core, not sure if there's any light.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 23 2015, 11:13 PM)
Speed doesn't matter now since you can overclock the BLCK to achieve 4.0GHz, you just need a Z170 which can overclock locked Skylake CPU.

Aesthetic is priceless  brows.gif
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I know right! Aesthetic is very important to me. I'm gonna customize my NZXT casing too.

Btw the i7-6700 & i7-6700k, is it the same cpu, only one is unlocked and one is not? Or it's different?

Edit : found an interesting article comparing the Zotac GTX970 Amp! Extreme & the Amp! Extreme Core
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/zotac...ore_review.html

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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Dec 24 2015, 03:48 AM)
Any processor with the K letter is implying that it is unlocked.
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I know. Since we can now overclock the locked cpu via BLCK, I wonder if both of them are identical cpu's since both names are 6700 series except one is unlocked and one is locked.
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Is it true that I have to buy a third party cooler if I buy the i7-6700k? And will the FSP Hexa+ 550w be sufficient for the i7-6700k + a GTX970?
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post Dec 26 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Dec 26 2015, 04:19 PM)
AFAIK, yup, you need to.

It's enough, but if you're gonna OC the CPU, i'd suggest getting a better PSU like the Seasonic M12II Evo 620W RM409;
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I think my budget will be precisely Rm4k. Still wondering on which setup I should go for. Quite a lot of choices in my mind. Minus Rm1650 for the graphic card, I would have Rm2350 left for the processor, motherboard, power supply, and ram. Hmm
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Dec 26 2015, 09:25 PM)
Processor + motherboard already eat up most, if not all, of the RM2350 sweat.gif
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Yea, if I go for the i7-6700K & Z170 board, it'll be Rm2268 sweat.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:18 PM

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Guys, I wonder how many fps difference if you compare the i5-6500/6600 to the i7-6700K when using the same card? GTX970 Amp! in this case.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 28 2015, 02:22 PM)
It depends on the game you play, if the game is optimized to use the extra threads or hyperthreading technology of i7, you will see quite a significant improvement, if no then it could be just a few or close to zero FPS improvement.
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Which game optimizes hyperthreading?

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