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post Jul 14 2024, 05:41 PM

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BT: OCBC garners 93.52% of Great Eastern’s shares at offer close, falls short of compulsory acquisition threshold

Trading in the counter will be suspended from Jul 15, as the number of shares in public hands is below the 10% free float threshold

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...ition-threshold
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post Jul 19 2024, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 3 2024, 03:52 PM)
Hi.

That depends on where and how you open your brokerage accounts.

Most likely you will open your brokerage accounts via brokers like IBKR, Moomoo, FSM SG/MY etc. These are nominee accounts where your shares are held in the name of your brokers. You won't get to attend AGMs/EGMs and will not receive annual reports and/or other documents from your companies but the brokerage fees are very cheap.

There is also CDP account where the shares are held in your own name. You then link your broker(s) with your CDP account. Shares bought in this way are considered to be held under your name directly and you receive notifications/reports/documents from your companies via CDP.

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Back to your question. If your broker(s) is/are based in Commonwealth nations like UK (e.g. IBKR UK) and Singapore (Moomoo SG, IBKR SG, FSM SG etc.), you may list your brokerage account holdings together with your other assets in your Malaysia will. Otherwise, like in my case with IBKR LLC, you will need to have a separate will in the US. or you may choose to consolidate your holdings in Malaysia prior to writing your Malaysia will to make life easier for the estate administrator when you are no longer around.

Most brokers and CDP allow joint accounts. Do check if you want a joint-alternate account or joint-And account.

https://www.sgx.com/securities/retail-inves...urities-account

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Thanks for the detailed reply!

I would also like to clarify the fees for transferring SG stocks from my Moomoo Singapore account to my SGX CDP account.

The screenshot below states that to transfer SG stocks out to CDP, there would be a fee of SGD 100 per transfer per stock. Does “per transfer per stock” mean I would be charged SGD 100 for the entire lot of DBS Bank shares I hold, or does it imply SGD 100 per individual DBS share?

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post Jul 19 2024, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(lola88 @ Jul 19 2024, 09:50 PM)
Thanks for the detailed reply!

I would also like to clarify the fees for transferring SG stocks from my Moomoo Singapore account to my SGX CDP account.

The screenshot below states that to transfer SG stocks out to CDP, there would be a fee of SGD 100 per transfer per stock. Does “per transfer per stock” mean I would be charged SGD 100 for the entire lot of DBS Bank shares I hold, or does it imply SGD 100 per individual DBS share?

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Hello again. smile.gif

From the screenshot you posted, it's 100 SGD "per stock", so that means regardless of how many units of DBS you hold you will be charged 100 SGD.

Usually it's cheaper to just sell your shares on one brokerage account (e.g. Moomoo), move the proceeds out to another broker (e.g. FSM SG) and buy the stock directly from the new broker (linked to your CDP account). FSM SG charges 8-9 SGD for CDP trades, Moommo another couple of SGD, the total cost will be far less than 100 SGD...
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post Jul 20 2024, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 19 2024, 10:31 PM)
Hello again. smile.gif

From the screenshot you posted, it's 100 SGD "per stock", so that means regardless of how many units of DBS you hold you will be charged 100 SGD.

Usually it's cheaper to just sell your shares on one brokerage account (e.g. Moomoo), move the proceeds out to another broker (e.g. FSM SG) and buy the stock directly from the new broker (linked to your CDP account). FSM SG charges 8-9 SGD for CDP trades, Moommo another couple of SGD, the total cost will be far less than 100 SGD...
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If I were to sell all the stocks, wouldn’t it incur more loss? For example, if I sell the stocks now, which I bought at a cheaper entry price, wouldn’t I incur more loss if I were to buy them again at a new brokerage account at a higher price?


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post Jul 20 2024, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(lola88 @ Jul 20 2024, 01:29 AM)
If I were to sell all the stocks, wouldn’t it incur more loss? For example, if I sell the stocks now, which I bought at a cheaper entry price, wouldn’t I incur more loss if I were to buy them again at a new brokerage account at a higher price?
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No haha. Think again.

Suppose you bought 1 unit of stock XYZ at 10 SGD with Moomoo, it rises to 100 SGD. You sell your 1 unit and you realized a profit of 90 SGD. Once you realize your profit, the money is yours.

Then you buy back again at T+1 or more likely, T+2 depending on how fast your can withdraw cash to your new broker (e.g. FSM SG). In the span of 2 days or so the stock price probably moves around 4-5% under normal market conditions (assume you time it well and avoid volatile periods like quarterly results' announcements etc.). If it goes up 4-5% in the span of 2 days, then you will buy back your stocks at 104 SGD a unit or 105 SGD a unit and thus you fork out an extra 4-5 SGD plus brokerage fee of around 8-9 SGD on top of the 100 SGD cash you cashed out from your previous brokerage account.

What matters here is the future stock price trajectory. The past profit of 90 SGD which has been realized is now reinvested in the same stock; you could have done it differently, say you use the 100 SGD to buy stock ABC at your new FSM SG account instead if you think stock ABC has better potential compared to stock XYZ in the future. Or in another scenario, if you do nothing in the first place, your 100 SGD would have stayed in Moomoo and continues to enjoy capital appreciation from stock XYZ. 3 situations are possible, they are all mutually exclusive scenarios, in the absence of new sources of funding.

To sum up:

1. You can't change the past with the present. (Your profits and loses since day 0 of investing in stock XYZ remains there until you realize them).
2. But you can change the future with the present. (Your future profits and loses depends on how you allocate your money today.)
3. You can let the past continues into the future at present by
(i) doing nothing at present (Keep stock XYZ at Moomoo and continue earning your money in Moomoo) or
(ii) by shifting the positions between different accounts at present. (Move stock XYZ from Moomoo to FSM SG and continue earning money from stock XYZ but in a different brokerage account, the underlying exposure is still to stock XYZ, but the ownership changes from Moomoo to you, in CDP).

Hope that helps.
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post Jul 24 2024, 11:06 AM

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GIC results: https://report.gic.com.sg/

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MAS to decide on SGD's movement this Friday... MPC statement to be released at 8 am on the 26th of July.

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Bloomberg: Singapore’s Homegrown Farming Dream Is Beginning to Fade

Nation’s local food campaign is faltering at the halfway mark
High costs, government red tape are hampering farming startups

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...as-farms-falter

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post Jul 26 2024, 09:24 AM

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MAS Policy Statement: https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/monetary-policy...atement-26jul24

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MAS will therefore maintain the prevailing rate of appreciation of the S$NEER policy band. There will be no change to its width and the level at which it is centred.

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post Jul 29 2024, 10:52 PM

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For holders of dividend stocks from SGX (e.g. DBS) purchased via IBKR, how is the dividend paid out?
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post Jul 30 2024, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jul 30 2024, 03:51 PM)
Hi guys
For holders of dividend stocks from SGX (e.g. DBS) purchased via IBKR, how is the dividend paid out?
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No difference from typical US shares. Dividends credited to your IBKR cash account on the payment date, the day before ex-date is the last day you are entitled to the dividend payments.

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SIA results: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/bu-q1fy2425....t&FileID=813639

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Interesting letters and exchanges regarding NTUC Income's stake sale to Allianz

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