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post May 13 2020, 04:18 PM

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Grabbed up KDC REIT and ParkwayLife REIT today. Good long-term prospects for IT and healthcare industry.

Already owned OCBC, Ascendas REIT, CMT and SATS.

OCBC entered at 8.94 accidentally... Forgot to cancel my trade...
SATS entered at 3.07, now giving me a lot of headache. It's a baby blue in the past and has solid fundamentals.

Ascendas is the only one in green, entered at 2.88.
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post May 14 2020, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 14 2020, 01:09 PM)
Bro,... for ctrs like SIA, SATS and SIAEC, these are related to the transportation - air travel industry. Wouldn't these be affected badly moving fwd ?

Declaration : I used to own all three above in the earlier days of my investing journey but taken profit and dividend for all and has never bought back.
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Indeed. SATS is what we call a cyclical stock. I see it battered down almost half, so I buy right now and when the industry takes off again, I would profit. The only question is when.
That said, SATS has other businesses as well. It's not entirely on aviation. Whether the virus is around or not, people would still travel, go overseas to study, work etc. Planes would still be flying. Cargo business is a bright spot for now. That would keep the company running in the short term. (They have associates/JV with other companies on freight business).

And if things really go bad, they could consider venturing into catering industry based on their experience in the food solutions business. In the long run, at least within the next 5-10 years, Singapore (and asia-pacific) would still do well. And so would SATS.

They are still on positive cash flow and currently in a very low debt level, not to mention Temasek is a major shareholder. These need to be factored into consideration. I won't lose much if things go south, just 100 shares.

QUOTE(moosset @ May 14 2020, 01:56 PM)
KDC not too expensive already??
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Yup. 1.98 P/BV ratio when I entered. But I have some 40 years of compounding interest for the dividends paid and 40 years of capital gains awaiting me ahead. A fall of 10-20% today is nothing compared to a 1600% return 40 years later. Stay invested all round, in any kind of environment. I think that's more important.

But well, I still have cash to invest in any further downturn. So, not an issue. Patience is all you need to generate wealth. In any case, I am a long-term investor, not a trader.

(About 10 years later I would be getting married, so let's see how much is my wedding present from shares invested today. tongue.gif )
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post May 19 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 15 2020, 04:51 PM)
Tq bro,... for the good write-up,... you refreshed my memory of SATS,..  thumbup.gif ,... I recalled SATS was bidding for some busniess many years ago at the Tanah Merah Ferry Terminal. What happened to that ? Good place, TMFT,...
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https://www.todayonline.com/business/sats-b...se-centre-s110m

According to the link above, they do own the ferry terminal.
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post May 21 2020, 08:18 PM

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For those who still hold SATS.

http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction...tm?topicId=5340

Members from sharejunction suggest that SATS is running at 60-70% capacity, well above SIA's 5%.

No source is quoted though. It make me wonder where do they get the 60-70 % number. But if true that would certainly be a positive news.

(The comments on the forum about "123" make me laugh.laugh.gif Apparently traders are abound there.)
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post May 29 2020, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ May 29 2020, 04:37 PM)
brokerage fee is damn high around 1.2%, using itradecimb..any other good platform to recommend?
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Ever heard of IBKR, TSG or captrader? smile.gif

https://www.tradestation-international.com/...ng-commissions/

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post Jun 2 2020, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 2 2020, 11:46 AM)
Bros,...

Vicom is having a share split with ratio : 1:4. Dates are next week.

Current price is $8.00, so, if this price holds till ExDate, each of the 'new' share will carry $2.00 value after splitting !

Any opinions, bros ??
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Thanks for sharing. VICOM (and Micro Mech) are the ones with solid fundamentals. ROA/ROE of around 20-22% with almost zero debt.

To me both are fully valued. P/BV of 4-5 times. But dividend yield of 4.5-5% is still okay.

Apparently, the stock split is to encourage more "small fishes" (like me tongue.gif) to enter, but still think it's too much for me. If you are off for the dividend, certainly a good one to pick.
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post Jun 3 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 2 2020, 05:51 PM)
Tq for replying, bro,... we all invest together for our success,...

If the price stays at 8.00 next week onwards right into the 'split' date, I wonder if,... on the day when the split shares start trading, will each resultant share open with a price higher than $2.00 ?

Understand Vicom is currently fully-valued,... but will investors be willing to pay a higher P/BV multiple since the price would be cheaper by then ?

The split ratio here is 1-to-4.
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Given the flux of market liquidity, would expect some small spikes on that day, but should die down quickly some time later. Just my 2 cents.

On another news, I am very worried about my holdings in blue chips REITs and shares. They (except SATS) are all in green, and REITs kind of give me double digit returns within 2 months.

Even the "overvalued" KDC REIT is now giving me 6% in 2 months.

Now I am wondering if they are overvalued...
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post Jun 3 2020, 09:51 AM

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Damn it! CMT hit circuit breaker! 10% rise.
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post Jun 3 2020, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 3 2020, 12:56 PM)
Ok, bro,... I have started loading-up from this morning,... queued big before Keppel Pacific Oak eAGM started this morning,... I'll try,... I have confidence in their govt. Vicom is their Puspakom,... and Australia's MVR INspection UNit,... surely can make money,....

I think I know why all the REITs rose suddenly at 3.45 pm last week,.... finally I know why,  rclxm9.gif

.... I kept pushing the threads over at ShareJunction (CapMallTrust and Sasseur Threads) on reasons why they rose,... And nobody replied me,... they just commented sideways,...

Edited by adding : bro,... just wanted to add this,... have confidence, have conviction, trust in their govt,... high can go higher,... jmho,...
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Eh, just rethink everything, I am a long-term investor, why should I be worried? bangwall.gif

Just hold on everything and average down if the worse happens. Blue chips are blue chips as long as fundamentals unchanged, have to learn from Ramjade!

DBS rose 5%. Huh. I will be closely watching at retailers and institutional flow of money.

So far, Nomura analysts suggest that we retailers are the winners. (https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2282518.html)
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post Jun 6 2020, 04:49 PM

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Dip? Yesterday? SGX data shows it's in green territory...

It rallied 1.5%.

https://www.sgx.com/securities/equities/O39
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post Jun 8 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 8 2020, 10:21 AM)
that "false" report - nothing mentioned in main media like bloomberg, cnbc.

asian markets up; STI up almost 1%.

ocbc... looks stable, no problem... bought at 9.56, best i cud do.
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Thanks for pushing my OCBC shares upward! tongue.gif laugh.gif

My OCBC holdings now sitting on a 9% gain (10% gain in MYR terms). Even bank shares are on similar profit levels with S-REITs. Either the market is pricing it correctly, or they are all in overbought territory. sweat.gif
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post Jun 8 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 8 2020, 10:29 AM)
9%... u must hv bought when it was still falling.

the dbs i hv from a week ago is now at +14%.

i do think sg banks have another 15% upside.
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No, I bought when it was the most expensive during the recession in the last 3 months, around 9 dollars. (8.94 SGD, 1 lot + 3.75 SGD fee, so break even price around 8.98 SGD)

Was still thinking to average down as I anticipated gloomy session ahead, and now this rally upset everything. Have to wait for another 10 years...

SATS surge 5%, another crazy counter. It seems like markets are pricing in far ahead of what I thought.

Parkway LIFE and KDC REITs are the only 2 "normal" counters now, and that still means 8% and 6% gain for me.

Banks certainly have upside, cyclical stocks are like that.

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post Jun 8 2020, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 8 2020, 10:48 AM)
my biggest upset was KDC.

had it for like 8 years... incl drip, cost was 1.00.

sold all... no chance to buy again... will forget. biggrin.gif
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Hmm... I disagree.

This is Keppel Data Center website: https://www.keppeldatacentres.com/ Check the properties under "Locations" tab.

KDC REIT has plenty of ROFR properties from its sponser, Keppel Data Center (subsidiary of Keppel Corp.) I still see bright upside from this counter.

But indeed, you shouldn't have sold KDC Reit in first place. That's a very big mistake.

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post Jun 8 2020, 02:15 PM

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What? VICOM at P/BV of 6 times. Huh.

I was thinking P/BV of 4 times already very expensive.
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post Jun 8 2020, 03:53 PM

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Big news:

Sembcorp shake-up: https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...temasek-demerge

SCI and SCM shares halt from trading.

And Citi upgrades the banking troika to buy. TP for OCBC now at 10.85.

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...ets-on-v-shaped

On the other hand, Phillip Capital downgrades the banks to neutral.

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/br...certain-outlook

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Data from SGX suggests net inflow of institutional fund as of last week, reversing the outflow trend from the past 4 trading weeks. And for the first time in 4 weeks, retailers are net sellers.

https://www.sgx.com/research-education/data-reports

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post Jun 9 2020, 03:35 PM

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Milestone: CMT returns 20% and SATS returns 10% in less than 2 months. laugh.gif

Gonna open Maybank SG account tomorrow. Interest rate only 0.3% p.a. in SG. Alas, still better than nothing.
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post Jun 9 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 9 2020, 03:39 PM)
CIMB's interest rate is higher.
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Are you sure? I checked here also 0.3% only (referring to 1-3 months rate). https://www.cimbbank.com.sg/en/personal/sup...d-deposit-rates

Moreover, I don't have CIMB MY account, better stick to Maybank as I am their existing customer in Malaysia.

EDIT: Maybe you are referring to Fastsaver, but I don't have CIMB MY account, so never mind.

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post Jun 9 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 9 2020, 04:02 PM)
Yup, was referring to Fastsaver. You can still open CIMB  SG accountl if you still want it later on after having the isavvy account. Then make the transfer from your isavvy account to CIMB Fastsaver account.

You dont need the CIMB MY account.
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Hah. Smart idea. That would be later though. Too many bank accounts to manage. tongue.gif (I still have one more account in HK Hang Seng Bank.) Thanks for the input. Earlier, I thought need CIMB MY in order to open CIMB SG.
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post Jun 10 2020, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 10 2020, 02:07 AM)
Bro,... your motivation for opening an SG Acct shld not be for their FD,... you shld be thinking of investing into SG instruments, bro,...Whatever funds you port over from Msia to SG shld be 'allowed' to sit there for as short a duration as possible,.. you shld be pushing hard to be 'in the mkt', ie time in the mkt, not timing the mkt,.... biggrin.gif

But just asking,... have you invested into SG Shares during this pandemic ? You invested via Msian brokerages or via SG brokerages.
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Don't worry, I know my own risk profile. The short term fund in my SG bank account is mainly to avoid IBKR earning interest on my money, yet not paying me. I want interest on my own dry powder, not going to let them flow into the hands of IBKR shareholders.

As for short-term duration, how short it is really depends on market conditions. When the fundamentals say it's overvalued, there is no reason I have to put more money into it, like you know, right now.

I will monitor my own profile from time to time. Rest assured.
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post Jun 10 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 10 2020, 11:54 AM)
I should not have asked then,..
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Oh, missed your question. Was in a hurry to open my SG bank account this morning. Yes I invested back in late April, and portfolio return is around 7-8% to date.

I think I mentioned it somewhere in the past (maybe in S-REIT thread).

OCBC, SATS. Ascendas, CMT, KDC REIT and Parkway LIFE. All in green as of now.

By the way, SG bank account application submitted! biggrin.gif

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