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post Jun 10 2020, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 10 2020, 09:43 PM)
Tq bro,... and congrats first on everything you have achieved,..

Just asking,... you entered NEW into those ctrs during this pandemic,... or you averaged down which means you were earlier holding one or more of those ctrs before the start of the pandemic. Just wanting to test a theory of mine.
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Whoa. What kind of theory?

I am a very new investor directly in stock market, just opened my IBKR brokerage account back in early April, hastily transferred funds from my HK bank account, converted to SGD and ventured into SG blue chips. Valuations were cheap back then. I have done my due diligence before this, aiming for undervalued counters. My efforts for OCBC and CMT has paid off apparently, judging from the current return, although the magnitude is kind of scary.

I have never hold any counters (didn't even have any brokerage account) before April. I was late to the party apparently, since the panic sell down was in March. But I did one thing right, averaged down my Manulife AP REIT fund substantially in March. Milestone: All constituents in my portfolio is green today for the first time since last year, Manulife AP REIT finally in positive territory since March!

Before April, I only had holdings in 2 mutual funds (bought from FSM), ASNB FP funds and EPF. And my holdings were like 45% equities, 45% fixed income and 10% cash. Today (After venturing into SG markets) my portfolio is like 60-65% equities, 30-35% fixed income and 10% cash. For equity holdings, about half in M'sia and about half in SG. The rest in developing and developed markets of Asia, Europe and the US.

So, is your theory proven? tongue.gif

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post Jun 11 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 11 2020, 11:42 AM)
Yes,... I have some light with my theory,...

You have never been in the SG mkt before this crash, THEN you entered upon the crash back in Mar 23rd... hence, you don't have to think too much abt averaging-down. Whatever you bought has a very high chance of turning green when the graph turns. Entering fresh upon a crash is the holy grail of it all. How I hoped I had this position.

You had Manulife AP REIT in our portfolio which you bought much earlier and when the crash came, your unit trust (ut) dropped into the red. You decided to average down after doing your analysis. You were proven right ! Now, this ut is also in the green.

Your ASNB FP - no issue,..fixed-price,... provided nothing happens to the political landscape of Msia.

EPF - no issue too,... similar consideration as per the ASNB FP fund above.

Entering fresh at THE RIGHT TIME has its merits,... and reduces a lot of work and risks - this is my theory.

How abt the other 2 mutual funds ? Are they still in the red,... or you have averaged down too ?

Bro AV,... tq,... I just bought those three,.... biggrin.gif
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All in green, but looking at the sell-off today, should fall back into red territory when the NAV price is released tomorrow.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 11 2020, 11:45 AM)
I tell you there are better stocks than sg banks and reits.
Replace your mall reits with wpc carry from US. Triple nett lease holder. Collected 97% of rent in march.

Buy when time is right and you get same yield is cmt, fct, MCT. I am going to do that with my MCT. Bonus is it comes with 2%p.a annual dividend growth rate for don't know how many donkey years.

Replace banks with CKI/allianz/legal and general

I am slowly selling my sg stuff for overseas stocks.

Time to move my money away from sg. Those still good I keep.
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Wait lah. Be patient. I have 40 years of compounding interests. It's not like I am retiring tomorrow. Need to do homework mah. laugh.gif

MCT has significant exposure to vivocity, portfolio concentration risk is there. But the Sentosa-Brani masterplan should do good to the area for the long run.

Will look into euro and USD area soon.

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 11 2020, 12:20 PM)
But 30% WHT. Not much is left after the cut unless you take into consideration the capital gain.
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Same thought. As said earlier, higher yields mean higher risks. It makes no sense to buy if OCBC and DBS pays me the same 5-6% yield yet I am comfortable with it. At least OCBC is more popular (more liquid, talk about liquidity risk) and established compared to WPC.

Currently looking into JNJ and MSFT for long haul capital gains.

EDIT: Just check-up WPC, looks okay. Very long WALE, recently converted into REIT in 2012, BBB grade, long debt maturity. Good investment target, but need to consider after-tax yield and currency risk. May not be suitable for investors who seek more exposure in emerging markets.

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post Jun 11 2020, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 11 2020, 05:13 PM)
Tq bro,...

Did you average down for the 2 mutual funds,... or you left them as there were for them to climb back beyond the trough price on their own ? Not talking abt today here.

Then, as for today,.. I am taking this opportunity to observe which of my ctrs will drop into the red, and which ctrs for which I averaged-down on earlier continue to hold-up in the green,... some observations there again. As we speak,... mkt just closed,... I am slightly down from yesterday,... overall portfolio stands at 24.53% green at close today.

I am vested onto international mkts too,... all I can say is I still find the SGD worthy to hold as a medium of investment,... earning the SGD is stable enough if I wished to convert into any other currencies for use in the world. I use the SGD as a proxy to convert out into other currencies when I need to use them.
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For mutual funds, I opted for DCA last year, then began very simple market timing (buy when BOTH SG and HK REITs are in red) towards the end of last year. I stopped investing into my mutual funds around last year as I moved some of my money to EPF and ASNB FP fund. I then averaged down around March this year. So, basically I only average down this March for my mutual funds. The rest of time, let the market force determine the fate.

Ya, speaking of today. CMT goes from 18% all the way to 11%. Basically this week's gain is completely shed off. Looking on the other side, good that it retreated, otherwise the valuations would look completely distorted.

For the more observant, you would probably notice that KDC finished up green. The only REIT in green today! I have noticed that this counter is highly negatively correlated to the main market, at least in the past sessions. Claimed by many as over-valued, this counter's surge probably suggests that markets are pricing into a second-wave. Traders can consider looking into this.

Ramjade has been at full steam in north america and europe recently (or maybe for quite some time already). I certainly agree that there are good opportunities over there. But I personally need more research before jumping into a conclusion. Moreover, what suits him may not suit you. Sometimes, one man's meat is another man's poison. We all have different risk profile, different amount of dry powder. SG is close to us, and we are familiar with its market. So for long haul capital preservation, plus dividend support, SG surely is the best choice to go. That said, will surely venture into the West soon. He shared with me a list of "good" counters and I am looking into them.

EDIT: If you know understand Mandarin, https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2287753.html is perhaps one evidence supporting my thoughts.

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post Jun 12 2020, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2020, 01:46 AM)
... which means you have DCA-ed correctly and adequately into a level that will help turn the 2 mutual funds green when the mkt picks up. This is good.

Yes, KDC REIT closed green today at 0.8% up. I have in my watchlist one more ctr that kept green at close today - Accordia Golf Trust. As to your observation abt KDCR,... hmm,... I have nticed there are times,.. KDCR moved in tandem with the mkt,... But,.. I obserced one ctr that has a higher chance of being negatively-correlated - O87, GLD US$.

I think we know the main reason why O87 is inversely-correlated.
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I see a lot of discounts today. Like an ongoing megasale.

Looking at Micro-mech today, my favourite one. Hmm...

SATS is doing surprisingly well. I thought it should be negative today but there's a sharp rebound from today's low. It even fared better than OCBC.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 12 2020, 09:35 AM)
Sorry to digress

For UK stocks dividends,
From 1 April 2020, dividend distributions to residents are subject to a withholding rate of 10% and dividend distributions to non-residents are subject to a withholding rate of 20%. The royalty or fee for technical services is subject to a withholding rate of 10% However, relief under a DTAA may be available.
https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/...age=true&bhcp=1
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Thanks for the info. Is this a new rule or it has been implemented before April 2020?

Ramjade Need to check this.

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post Jun 12 2020, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2020, 11:59 AM)
Tq bro,...

Emm,... Yeah, there are discounts today,... but not as much as the one in Mar 22,... As of now,.. CMT, Sasseur REIT and Cromwell have fallen below my averaged-down price from the first wave of the pandemic.

The other red ones are because they have not climbed back up during the pandemic OR I have not averaged-down on them during pandemic.

Split shares of Vicom are running well.

Entered a new counter this morning after discussions at ShareJunction.

Micro-Mech, bro ? How abt UMS ??

Edited by adding this for records : As of now as I write, my overall portfolio is 22.75% green.
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Too late. Window closed earlier than I thought. But the discount is only like 6% from its recent high, still not enough to convince me to enter.

Nikko AM analyst suggest a 6% downside for S&P 500 in coming weeks. If it spillover to SG markets, maybe can consider pick up some quality ones.

UMS isn't as liquid as Micro Mech, and not really as good as MM. At least not as transparent as MM.

Which counter did you enter this morning?

QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2020, 02:32 PM)
Hi bro,... yes, most of my REIT hldgs are in SG,.. I have some in Aus and in Canada too. Your concept is right abt land scarcity.

This is a good time for a fresh entrant like you, bro,... congrats,... but choose your REITs carefully, do you have a brokerage acct to buy SG REITs ?
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To be more specific, it's land scarcity in CBD. Hard to find good Grade A offices these days. The most recent transaction is the changeover in ownership of AXA tower in Tanjong Pagar to Tencent. Most large office buildings are swallowed up by REITs.

And one should be mindful of:

1. SG can always expand its land by reclamation. 50 years ago, the shoreline was only along Clifford Pier, today, it's further south into SATS Marina South terminal. And it can go further. Once Tuas seaport is operational in 5 years time, Pasir Panjang shoreline would add to more supply. Oh, and Keppel harbour, just beside the CBD, more lands coming soon.

2. Most REITs, if not all, have exposure to properties beyond SG, and properties in other country may or may not subject to the same land scarcity issue as SG. Most important of all, if you expect SGD to appreciate against other currencies in the long run, the income remitted from overseas will be diluted in the long run.

Perhaps the above factors will counter the "land scarcity" plus point mentioned earlier. But one thing is certain, if talk about office REITs, CBD rents are quite stable, and somewhat predictable. For one thing, they are not subject to the same "political" risk like their HK peers.

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post Jun 13 2020, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 12 2020, 09:22 PM)
What is the reason for such drop in share price?

Thank you for your information.  smile.gif
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As zenquix said, it's because of the spillover effect from the correction in US markets on Thursday night. Can expect some further correction of around 5-6%. Good time to collect the ones you miss back in March and April. I am hoping to get Micro mech at 1.65-1.67, which gives me an upside of 7-8% from its recent high, should there be a pullback.
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post Jun 14 2020, 03:01 PM

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https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/stocks/sin...as-global-funds

Bright side in mid-term.
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post Jun 15 2020, 08:44 AM

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Futures suggest around 1-1.5% drop in STI.
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post Jun 15 2020, 02:54 PM

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Damn it. Micro mech refuse to go down. Waited for whole day. laugh.gif

STI forward PE approximately 12.59, now trading at 0.5 SD below average.

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post Jun 15 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 15 2020, 03:06 PM)
Very good, bro AV,....

Hmm,... bro TOS,.. I stopped uing the bell curve for the STI fwd PE sometime ago,... can't use that in tody's environment. If the second wave really comes back,.. MM will join the downward move.
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I see. I am just referring to data from DBS Research. If there are multiple waves then yes the P/E would have to be revised downwards.
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Well, Phase 2 to begin this Friday. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coro...cial-gatherings

And regarding multiple waves, it's too early to tell if there will be multiple waves in SG after reopening. SG is small and easier to control, I do not foresee any protests. And election is coming soon.

"Domestic" stocks should be fine. Export-oriented ones will likely take a greater hit from the 2nd wave.

So, the DBS chart can be quite still valid, maybe PE figures just revised down a little. The banking troika has diversified source of income and SG still accounts for about half of it, helping to insulate any potential downside risk.
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post Jun 17 2020, 09:41 AM

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Too bad tiger does not offer service for SG stocks. Any idea when they will offer service for SG stocks?

EDIT: I am wrong, there is a new service for SG stocks: https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/market/sem-sg

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 17 2020, 09:53 AM)
Any link to this Tiger broker?

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https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/market/sem-sg

Sorry, there is indeed a new service for SG equities. I was looking at the US version before this.
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:23 PM

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https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/ri...ort-should-hold

Sideways trading more likely, per TheEdge SG.

Support rally for blue chips faded recently, unfortunately.
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post Jun 23 2020, 04:03 PM

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Election coming!
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post Jun 29 2020, 08:42 PM

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These days, you can't make a lot of money by selling newspapers and magazines. So, SPH ventures into data centers instead. I recalled it just ventured into nursing homes (think Parkway LIFE REIT) not long ago.

https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...194df16792a8708

Looks like Temasek is off for something else?

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post Jul 8 2020, 02:41 PM

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Cross-posted in IBKR thread: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-fi...to-local-stocks

IBKR has arrived in Singapore.

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post Jul 9 2020, 05:53 PM

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2019/20 4Q SATS result to be announced anytime from now.

https://www.sats.com.sg/investors/financial-reports

Busy refreshing the SGX company announcement page. biggrin.gif

https://www.sgx.com/securities/company-anno...e=1&pagesize=20
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post Jul 9 2020, 05:58 PM

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Oh, results released.

I just joined the live webcast.

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EDIT: SGX Link for media/press statement, detailed results and presentation slides released: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...9fead477c63bad6

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post Jul 10 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 10 2020, 08:51 AM)
Don't really like OCBC
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