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low yat 82
post Sep 29 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2015, 11:00 AM)
did a little back ground check.

seems like they are investing into foods and catering which we all know is a volatile market to be in.

http://www.midanacap.com/en/our-portfolio/case-studies/
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extremely risky. more risky than buyin individual stocks.


imo, d track record needs to justify for such a high risk. till d data is available, i dun think its wise to invest in it. if really wan, only the money that ones afford to loss
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post Sep 29 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:19 AM)
extremely risky. more risky than buyin individual stocks.
imo, d track record needs to justify for such a high risk. till d data is available, i dun think its wise to invest in it. if really wan, only the money that ones afford to loss
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u think what return would be? hmm.gif

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post Sep 29 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:19 AM)
extremely risky. more risky than buyin individual stocks.
imo, d track record needs to justify for such a high risk. till d data is available, i dun think its wise to invest in it. if really wan, only the money that ones afford to loss
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Unlike most investments they don't provide you their track records. Losses and gains or etc. Just company profile that looks like a scam.
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post Sep 29 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 10:40 AM)
so your investment in Midana yield some profit or total losses  hmm.gif
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It just a small amount that I put in..

The amount that i allocate for high risk investment..


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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2015, 11:00 AM)
did a little back ground check.

seems like they are investing into foods and catering which we all know is a volatile market to be in.

http://www.midanacap.com/en/our-portfolio/case-studies/
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That was their previous project.. Previous they are investors who went to visit the company that they are investing.. The project was closed and now they are selling the new project..

The sales person asked me want to enter the second one, I say no because i wanted to only test the water from my initial investment..

Lol..

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:35 AM)
It just a small amount that I put in..

The amount that i allocate for high risk investment..
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what made u to select Midana over others?

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post Sep 29 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:38 AM)
what made u to select Midana?
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Well, I came across this company in a financial talk organized by Money Compass..

The articles are published in the Money Compass..

They described the condition how the investments make money from, so I just try out with the smallest investment..

I am always open to any investments as long as I have done the due diligence.. but then again, dont let greed take over so be conservative and to only reinvest once only when it succeed once..

The company aims to bring in new projects in future, so i am not rushing for putting so much.. haha...

AGAIN, only put what you afford to loss.. This norm is important.. so i discounted the investment from my net worth.. haha...
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:42 AM)
Well, I came across this company in a financial talk organized by Money Compass..

The articles are published in the Money Compass..

They described the condition how the investments make money from, so I just try out with the smallest investment..

I am always open to any investments as long as I have done the due diligence.. but then again, dont let greed take over so be conservative and to only reinvest once only when it succeed once..

The company aims to bring in new projects in future, so i am not rushing for putting so much.. haha...

AGAIN, only put what you afford to loss.. This norm is important.. so i discounted the investment from my net worth.. haha...
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oh okay. thanks for the advice rclxms.gif


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post Sep 29 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:46 AM)
oh okay. thanks for the advice  rclxms.gif
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No problem.. We are all in the learning process.. ^^

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post Sep 29 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Sep 28 2015, 03:36 PM)
Investing in this type of company comes with a lot of risk.

Are there any reputable cf companies in Malaysia?
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They hadly invest in Malaysia company as what i know because of the economic landscape. their main project is mainly in China which to my knowledge even if i want to invest in a company i will strongly consider China due to their economic landscape and importantly is their populations.

There is a saying in business term by smart Boss.

"we don't look for money, but we look for peoples, because people carry money and money doesn't walk" hahah


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post Sep 29 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Sep 28 2015, 03:50 PM)
I think a better alternative is probably to invest via unit trust
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lol, in my life i never invest in unit trust, i only invest in stocks which i buy and keep which normally is technology stocks because technology i would say is recession proof stock. second options now is looking for Private equity coz at least i am part of the business and there are professional people running it and its not a speculation as stocks do.

I'm still studying.

I hope we all have the same mission which is to have a comfortable life when we retire instead of still working when old. hahahaha .... I hope by the time when i'm old, i could spend time with my dog by the beach. hahaha
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post Sep 29 2015, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 29 2015, 07:45 AM)
Investing & venturing in SMEs are higher risk as compared to unit trusts..

I m one of the investors of Midana Capital.. but i only put a little for experiment.. But i m not promoting or share to friends because i think it would be better to try out first..

But as i said u need to allocate only the money that you afford to loss.. this is golden rule in high risk investment..
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Wow, really? the latest project i get to know is they are doing a P2B lending company in China which called ftribe if i not mistaken. After done some research from the net, P2B lending in China is a whole new and big trend market. Basically in the western country they already have this long time ago which i questioned myself, why lar malaysia always behind the trend cry.gif cry.gif

Maybe you can share some of your experience on the project you invest and why you invest ?

Your sharing is valuable to all of us smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:38 AM)
what made u to select Midana over others?
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Well, frankly speaking, i haven't decided to choose Midana Capital Inc yet, However i do have own study before i assigned the investment rights to them. Factors are:

1. Midana Capital mainly doing project in China, and if would given a chance to invest in China who wouldn't want? but i don't have the proper channel except Midana Capital Inc do have have through VIE "Variable Interest Structure" something like that.

2. i browse other companies yet, they do not spell out any exits strategy and their charges are extremely fuhhh and wondering if i have RM 10,000 whether can i join their elite platform boh?

3. Midana spell out exit strategy and if the company delay their listing , in the agreement they spell out what will be the term upon it? perhaps like giving extra dividends, or buy back options with either original price or extra percentage per annum. (This is informed to me by their executive and my friend aware about the same info and even written in black and white agreement) Well, i need to check with my lawyer friend first on final stage before proceed because they said the agreement is valid by Malaysia lawyer.

4. Entry level not high - I think for example their new project Ftibe pun only cost me around RM 12,000 - RM 13,000 for me to own a 10,000 unit share of the company.

5. So far they have few SMEs investment made in China and i think only 1 in Singapore. And so far the industry they invested in is risk calculated and is my appetite to invest in but that is earlier stage which i do not know about Equity Crowdfunding yet.

6. My last view is, is yes of course i would appreciate others comment for example like unit trust. I am not against it, but my housemate invest in it last 2 years and he lost few hundred dollar sweat.gif sweat.gif furthermore, looking back at the rate of return VS Malaysia economy inflation + GST + increment of cost.

Looking at this point makes me wonder even i am getting my money at 4% - 5% per annum through fixed deposit pun lose money in the long run. Since i am still young, i should start making a wise decision on investment jor. cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:31 AM)
u think what return would be?  hmm.gif
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erm, this is a good question. However, my understanding of private equity is that their return depends on company performance bro. For example: if we have the opportunity to have some stakes in facebook long time ago, i am a billionaire now. hahahaha.
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My learning process about Private Equity for now is by watching this reality show. Watch it guys and together we become an investors. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

This reality show is one of the top reality show in America, even recognize by the WhiteHouse. Lol. Something like buying a stake in a company and groom the company and makes money. Perhaps this is the secret huh. its called Shark Tank.

Check the link guys smile.gif

Shark Tank [cool.gif[COLOR=red]


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QUOTE(cf kaki @ Sep 29 2015, 12:25 PM)
Well, frankly speaking, i haven't decided to choose Midana Capital Inc yet, However i do have own study before i assigned the investment rights to them. Factors are:

1. Midana Capital mainly doing project in China, and if would given a chance to invest in China who wouldn't want? but i don't have the proper channel except Midana Capital Inc do have have through VIE "Variable Interest Structure" something like that.

2. i browse other companies yet, they do not spell out any exits strategy and their charges are extremely fuhhh and wondering if i have RM 10,000 whether can i join their elite platform boh?

3. Midana spell out exit strategy and if the company delay their listing , in the agreement they spell out what will be the term upon it? perhaps like giving extra dividends, or buy back options with either original price or extra percentage per annum. (This is informed to me by their executive and my friend aware about the same info and even written in black and white agreement) Well, i need to check with my lawyer friend first on final stage before proceed because they said the agreement is valid by Malaysia lawyer.

4. Entry level not high - I think for example their new project Ftibe pun only cost me around RM 12,000 - RM 13,000 for me to own a 10,000 unit share of the company.

5. So far they have few SMEs investment made in China and i think only 1 in Singapore. And so far the industry they invested in is risk calculated and is my appetite to invest in but that is earlier stage which i do not know about Equity Crowdfunding yet.

6. My last view is, is yes of course i would appreciate others comment for example like unit trust. I am not against it, but my housemate invest in it last 2 years and he lost few hundred dollar  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  furthermore, looking back at the rate of return VS Malaysia economy inflation + GST + increment of cost.

Looking at this point makes me wonder even i am getting my money at 4% - 5% per annum through fixed deposit pun lose money in the long run. Since i am still young, i should start making a wise decision on investment jor.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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thanks for sharing. u wrote in very details rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 12:44 PM)
thanks for sharing. u wrote in very details  rclxms.gif
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Haha, No Problems Bro. In facts i called up to their office yesterday and had a long talk with one of their executive. Waiting for free time to visit their mini seminar soon and have an in-depth understanding.
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QUOTE(cf kaki @ Sep 29 2015, 12:10 PM)
Wow, really? the latest project i get to know is they are doing a P2B lending company in China which called ftribe if i not mistaken. After done some research from the net, P2B lending in China is a whole new and big trend market. Basically in the western country they already have this long time ago which i questioned myself, why lar malaysia always behind the trend  cry.gif  cry.gif

Maybe you can share some of your experience on the project you invest and why you invest ?

Your sharing is valuable to all of us smile.gif
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Here are some information:-
1) I invested in the project called Lian Hua International Foods Limited
2) The project is expected to go for listing in Growth Enterprise Market board by end of next year as the company has already signed underwriting agreement with Chang Jiang Securities
3) The project is currently listed under APOTC at a price of HKD$5.00 per share, previous purchase price is HKD$2.50 per share.
4) The project was closed in 31 July 2015.
5) There was a site visit for the project and briefing by the owner of Lian Hua sometime before the project closed (cannot remember the date)
6) Target to exit in 2 options either to exit after listing in either Growth Enterprise Market (GEM) board; or listing in Main Board of HKSE.

Why I invest?
1) The company that potentially be listed but have not being listed yet is consider golden opportunity because the value of the shares are lower compared to the market value
2) I target to sell the shares after the listing at GEM market to realized my profit.

Rationale behind investing overseas?
1) Because I have invested before in Hong Kong land banking so i am open to opportunities aboard
2) Exploring different methods or platform for wealth accumulation

Undertaking?
1) I only invest what i afford to loss..



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post Sep 29 2015, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(cf kaki @ Sep 29 2015, 12:48 PM)
Haha, No Problems Bro. In facts i called up to their office yesterday and had a long talk with one of their executive. Waiting for free time to visit their mini seminar soon and have an in-depth understanding.
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You can visit their office in Tuesday and Thursday evening.. but you better called them to reconfirm first on that seminar..

Haha..
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 29 2015, 12:57 PM)
Here are some information:-
1) I invested in the project called Lian Hua International Foods Limited
2) The project is expected to go for listing in Growth Enterprise Market board by end of next year as the company has already signed underwriting agreement with Chang Jiang Securities
3) The project is currently listed under APOTC at a price of HKD$5.00 per share, previous purchase price is HKD$2.50 per share.
4) The project was closed in 31 July 2015.
5) There was a site visit for the project and briefing by the owner of Lian Hua sometime before the project closed (cannot remember the date)
6) Target to exit in 2 options either to exit after listing in either Growth Enterprise Market (GEM) board; or listing in Main Board of HKSE.

Why I invest?
1) The company that potentially be listed but have not being listed yet is consider golden opportunity because the value of the shares are lower compared to the market value
2) I target to sell the shares after the listing at GEM market to realized my profit.

Rationale behind investing overseas?
1) Because I have invested before in Hong Kong land banking so i am open to opportunities aboard
2) Exploring different methods or platform for wealth accumulation

Undertaking?
1) I only invest what i afford to loss..
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Thank for the reply Bro,

U mean if i want to invest in any of the project they will provide trip for us to visit the place and listen to the owner future plans for the company? Or do i need to pay on my own accommodation? haha basically i have right? if company pao everything then it sounds more like a scams to me. hahaha.

New thing about APOTC. where can i find the details about APOTC? and what does it stands for?



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