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 [V1] Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950XL, Official Windows 10 flagship

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post Oct 7 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Vsmh @ Oct 7 2015, 08:23 PM)
lol, you dont say. Everything becomes expensive when it reaches here.
yes, they are both the same in terms of Camera. RGB Flash by the way.
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ya as I know they only different in size, battery capacity and processor only hmm.gif

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Oct 7 2015, 10:07 PM)
hope they come together with docking  smile.gif
i remember is 2 white + 1 ceramic
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no idea as I watch those hand on article all said camera are same which got triple LED hmm.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:23 AM

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wanna change my current lumia 820 with this phone.....
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QUOTE(xSean @ Oct 9 2015, 10:23 AM)


wanna change my current lumia 820 with this phone.....
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post Oct 13 2015, 04:57 PM

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Lumia 950 looks promising alright.

Will definitely switch from my 2 year old Lumia 925, when the price is right.

Pocket PC concept sounds awesome in my book. cool2.gif
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:18 AM

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Just wondering, does the continuum available for all devices with WP 10 or just mid-top range phone because in my opinion, the hardware plays an important part in this feature aside from software.
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Oct 14 2015, 10:18 AM)
Just wondering, does the continuum available for all devices with WP 10 or just mid-top range phone because in my opinion, the hardware plays an important part in this feature aside from software.
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Only for high end w10 device
Even Lumia 1520 with snapdragon 800 can't have that feature
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Oct 14 2015, 10:18 AM)
Just wondering, does the continuum available for all devices with WP 10 or just mid-top range phone because in my opinion, the hardware plays an important part in this feature aside from software.
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just new device

because traditional usb type B unable to allocate so many bandwidth unlike usb type c which capable to support up to usb 3.1
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 14 2015, 10:24 AM)
Only for high end w10 device
Even Lumia 1520 with snapdragon 800 can't have that feature
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Oct 14 2015, 11:28 AM)
just new device

because traditional usb type B unable to allocate so many bandwidth unlike usb type c which capable to support up to usb 3.1
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Oct 14 2015, 11:28 AM)
just new device

because traditional usb type B unable to allocate so many bandwidth unlike usb type c which capable to support up to usb 3.1
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Actually, its not because of the high bandwidth of USB Type C since you can use the Continuum feature through Miracast.

It limited only on the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL because both of them are using the Snapdragon 808 and 810 which actually support dual display mode. You can see it at the Snapdragon website (notice on the word "concurrent" that they use):

Snapdragon 810 :
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4K Ultra HD on-device display concurrent with 4K Ultra HD output to HDTV

1080p and 4K external displays
Snapdragon 808 :
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Display  :
2560x1600 on-device display concurrent with 4K Ultra HD output to HDTV

1080p and 4K external displays supported
For comparison, here's how the Snapdragon 800 specs are stated :
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2560x2048 + 1080p and 4K external displays supported
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post Oct 14 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Assassin's @ Oct 14 2015, 12:56 PM)
Actually, its not because of the high bandwidth of USB Type C since you can use the Continuum feature through Miracast.

It limited only on the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL because both of them are using the Snapdragon 808 and 810 which actually support dual display mode. You can see it at the Snapdragon website (notice on the word "concurrent" that they use):

Snapdragon 810 :
Snapdragon 808 :
For comparison, here's how the Snapdragon 800 specs are stated :
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oh..good point..

still im wondering how hot 950/XL can reach for Microsoft to come out with liquid cooling...
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post Oct 16 2015, 05:34 PM

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yeah Assassin's have a good point, but didnt we saw Joe Belfiore demoed a live continuum experience on a Lumia 1520 sometime this year ?

i think it is possible to do so on a Lumia 1520/930 but they may not introduce now after all if this works who buys the new 950/950XL ?


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http://venturebeat.com/2015/04/29/microsof...-in-windows-10/

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Oct 16 2015, 05:34 PM)
yeah Assassin's have a good point, but didnt we saw Joe Belfiore demoed a live continuum experience on a Lumia 1520 sometime this year ?
Here's the full demo video :


The phone (Lumia 920) is just a dummy phone, as in it's not actually running the Continuum features a (probably just displaying screenshot), hell it's not even running Windows 10 Mobile.

At 22:30, if you notice on the icon on the status bar on that phone, you can see that those are the WP8 icons. In W10M, the "No sim card" icon has no white fill, just border and the plug on the charging icon are on the side, not center. In addition, the Continuum blue bar is all wrong. The blue background is supposed to also include the status bar, as seen in this video which shows a demo of an actual prototype running the Continuum feature (Skip to 6:30)

Also, in the official Microsoft's video of Continuum feature, you can see the phone have both on-screen and physical navigation bar (again, probably just showing a screenshot).

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QUOTE(Assassin's @ Oct 16 2015, 06:33 PM)
Here's the full demo video :


The phone (Lumia 920) is just a dummy phone, as in it's not actually running the Continuum features a (probably just displaying screenshot), hell it's not even running Windows 10 Mobile.

At 22:30, if you notice on the icon on the status bar on that phone, you can see that those are the WP8 icons. In W10M, the "No sim card" icon has no white fill, just border and the plug on the charging icon are on the side, not center. In addition, the Continuum blue bar is all wrong. The blue background is supposed to also include the status bar, as seen in this video which shows a demo of an actual prototype running the Continuum feature (Skip to 6:30)

Also, in the official Microsoft's video of Continuum feature, you can see the phone have both on-screen and physical navigation bar (again, probably just showing a screenshot).
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Yeah that's the thing, they intro with an old hardware, even many page still writes Continuum is available to phones running on Windows 10 Mobile, based on those article it was all written this year April after the demo, now sadly which is not true but lets hope they allow us to have semi continuum feature tongue.gif

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Oct 16 2015, 07:47 PM)
Yeah that's the thing, they intro with an old hardware, even many page still writes Continuum is available to phones running on Windows 10 Mobile, based on those article it was all written this year April after the demo, now sadly which is not true but lets hope they allow us to have semi continuum feature tongue.gif
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Comparing the older processor and the new SD808/SD810, how much in percentage of those processors compare to older version of processor does it vary?

IMO, processor plays a great role in Continuum as Continuum enable user to display on monitor and also at phone at different interface and also instance. Except there is option to like share the interface of phone and also at the monitor (meaning using the phone..but on monitor).

I'm not tech savvy. Just saying. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Oct 17 2015, 03:51 PM)
Comparing the older processor and the new SD808/SD810, how much in percentage of those processors compare to older  version of processor does it vary?

IMO, processor plays a great role in Continuum as Continuum enable user to display on monitor and also at phone at different interface and also instance. Except there is option to like share the interface of phone and also at the monitor (meaning using the phone..but on monitor).

I'm not tech savvy. Just saying. biggrin.gif
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I suppose they can make it like mirroring your phone interface to start menu, then black out the phone only keep call function intact. so it wont be that heavy to process both screen doing individual stuff... hence the semi continuum tongue.gif
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as a former lumia fan.. just want to say a few things la about the 950.. one is, i like that finally, they put on screen navigation key on a flagship phone.. two, wtf is with the back speaker? one that besides the camera at that! the 920 had the speaker at the bottom, then the 930 at the lower back, now the 950 at the upper back. smh with their design team. one would hope by now microsoft would put a front speaker at their phones. maybe they're scared people will say they copy other oem but at least dont go backwards to yesteryear's' speaker placement la.
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Oct 17 2015, 07:47 PM)
I suppose they can make it like mirroring your phone interface to start menu, then black out the phone only keep call function intact. so it wont be that heavy to process both screen doing individual stuff... hence the semi continuum tongue.gif
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yea..if continuum have that option, mid-range phone can run continuum smoothly (i guess)..
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when it will be launched here in malaysia?
and estimated price?

my 925 is dying, getting slow and all.
maybe it's time to replace and move on with 950?
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While waiting for the new Lumia flagships, here are two hypnotizing videos on how to assemble and dissemble the devices.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 18 2015, 12:24 PM)
when it will be launched here in malaysia?
and estimated price?

my 925 is dying, getting slow and all.
maybe it's time to replace and move on with 950?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lumia_950_listing_...-news-14564.php. sweat.gif

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