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post Nov 8 2015, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 7 2015, 09:49 AM)
As usual airbus defence.

Same like ec725 that time. Just a platform nothing on it. Only added later one after comprises plus a few additional issues

That why whenever say airbuss defence. They make realiable product but nvr get it right on the first time. So if u are early adopter especially their newest product, beware!

Malaysia already twice.. first with the super cougar and now the a400 atlas

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post Nov 8 2015, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 8 2015, 05:00 PM)
What's with the black stuff ( paint peel?) on the cft?
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Newest nano paint by sg. can change colour by peeling off and reveal it undercoat paint.. so one plane two camouflage paint.

Sarcasm mode
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post Nov 11 2015, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 11 2015, 07:00 AM)
Indonesia is very defensive for years.....neighbours who continuously threatening and did territorial intrusions. Never made the first move, so the real question is....

When Malaysia will perform the next intrusion......
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Neh... it all a political show by indon side. Constantly playing the same issue we are being intruded for years. It was aslo the same sentiment that allow for more military hardware purchase under the pretext of guarding the borders. It still very much a military dominant goverment and all past president have try to please the arm chair generals.

If you ask to list the things indonesia intrude which personally i also have some knowledge. Malaysia and sg prefer to keep the thing under wrap.. no need a big huha.

Indonesia? Fishing boat intrude.. take and burn it a warning? Hawk on training termasuk border, send in su30, over reaction much..

Oh did i mentioned that when lahad datu incident, when malaysia start sending military hardware accross. Indo also start doing the same not under the pretext of guarding the border but rather to prevent any malaysia activities close to it border. Before that, they didn't even bother to to properly safeguard those areas
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Nov 11 2015, 11:45 PM)
we wont get s400 if wanted to, s400 only for russia closest allied
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what if i say we can get it if we want to? whistling.gif whistling.gif

of course the main issues is the budget but other than that is no brainier why the russian would not sell it to us.
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post Nov 12 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 11 2015, 11:56 PM)
yea... just saw, not cheap
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cant based on the price to china... tat is mark up because russia know china will copy it no matter what promises they made

the best would be on india coming deal.. rumours say s400 is one of items in discussion
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post Nov 14 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 14 2015, 03:22 PM)
Oh island insertion


I see where this is going..


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post Nov 20 2015, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Nov 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
more like budget bro, else we've already jumped onto F35 if not for budget.
if budget no issue like japan, TUDM might even request for F22 straight away tongue.gif
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u smoke which weed? drool.gif

f35 with its rep.. i doubt even we would want it even with plenty of budget

f22 is already off the book, not for sales
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post Nov 21 2015, 05:36 PM

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in case one might ask how russian air defence VLS works below decks? Based on the s300

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post Nov 25 2015, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 25 2015, 06:10 PM)
dayum.. terus deploy s400, them ruskies really serious

but the turks never crossed into syria so how can they defend themselves?
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Nov 25 2015, 06:25 PM)
RUSSIAN AIR FORCE ANNIHILATED MILITANTS IN AREA WHERE SU-24 WAS SHOT DOWN. ERDOGAN ORDERED TURKISH AIR FORCE PLANES BE GROUNDED

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The source reported that most likely nothing remains of the militants who shot down the Russian MI-8 .

No detailed information has arrived yet.

Meanwhile, there has appeared information that the Turks are not putting their fighters in the air after the majority of them were lit up by Russian radar (the S-300 and, according to early reports, possibly the S-400). After the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, Turkey is afraid that their planes can be destroyed when approaching the border.

In this regard the Syrians reported that the Russia air-space forces can begin the full-scale destruction of camps in the border territory, and also annihilate the retreating militants and the fuel trucks which are moving towards Turkey.

Erdogan did not receive the hoped-for support from NATO. Erdogan has acknowledged that if the Russian plane even violated the border of Turkey, this was for only for 17 seconds, which means that the Turkish Air Force, on purely physical grounds, could not have reacted to it if the provocation was not prepared in advance. This figure of 17 seconds appears in NATO reports.

Members of NATO have been ambiguously treating Erdogan’s action. At present it is difficult to judge how the situation will develop. While it is obvious that Erdogan is attempting to back off, it is already too late, as Vladimir Putin gave to understand at a meeting with the king of Jordan.

Most likely Turkey did not expect such a severe reaction from Russia.

http://southfront.org/vks-russian-federati...ey-be-grounded/
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Where got so fast s400 deployed. Today only annouced will be placed there. Most probably it take at least 2 week for a full battalion there for ready position

Most likely from the s300 based on russian warship

One thing isreal would definitely not be happy. They have asked the russian not to deploy the s300 or even the s400 on ground. Now turkey go shoot russian plane down. Now russian has every reason to deploy it

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post Nov 25 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Nov 25 2015, 09:50 PM)
Turkey says Russia is a 'friend' after shooting down jet

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http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-s...down-1296701063
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No backer for turkey ass

Even US just give support rather than strongly support
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post Nov 25 2015, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 25 2015, 10:17 PM)
Just token support for the sake of NATO unity. If Turkey is found out to have spilled first blood and Russia retaliates, some believe chapter 5 of NATO charter won't apply. NATO is a defense alliance, if one of its members go on the offensive and shoot at Russians, they're on their own.
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they are on their own laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2015, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Nov 30 2015, 12:57 AM)
Russia n iseral can agree on something
Turkey cant
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Because one of the agreement is for russia not to deploy the s300 or s400 on syria.

But now turkey given russia a good reason to deploy them
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post Dec 2 2015, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 2 2015, 07:47 AM)
It like waiting for pig for fly with current financial situation.

Impossible to get not to mention sgpv batch 3 which is also said to be in plan
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post Dec 2 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 2 2015, 09:26 AM)
It hard to said. Anyway he speaking on long term basis.
Sgpv batch3 it very possible as the government still under contract to build 27 of with bns.
Mrss is tough nut to crack pity our navy.

Mmea finally select thales uav for its ship.
I thought it will be scaneagle. Lolz
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It cheaper it seem.

Funny that even the sgpv does not have a uav system
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post Dec 5 2015, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(James Bum @ Dec 5 2015, 08:07 AM)
I once asked  LTZ where do military  guys go to release  tension but he was being evasive about it... now I  know  they have  such high class taste to go to strip clubs in NZ

Is substance  abuse rampant in the military  force?
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it part and parcel.. there definitely some cases but let not just some rotten apple spoil the whole batch. Unless, you can tell me which armed forces in the world have clean record? If have also, would be dealt within the division itself
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post Dec 5 2015, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Dec 5 2015, 08:49 AM)
‘Incursion’: Baghdad demands Turkey withdraw ‘training’ troops from northern Iraq

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https://www.rt.com/news/324787-turkish-troops-deployed-iraq/
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syria war is a mess

dunno who is targeting who doh.gif
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post Dec 5 2015, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Dec 5 2015, 08:53 AM)
TURKEY INVADED SYRIA, CAPTURED TAL ZIYAB

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The Turkish army has built foritications at Tal Ziyab to defend the supply route which ISIS uses for smuggling the Syrian oil from the ISIS-controlled city of Raqqa to Turkey.

The Turkish army invaded the Syrian territory and took control of the hill Tal Ziyab. Troops crossed the border accompanied by bulldozers.

After occupying the high ground (50 meters), the Turkish force built fortifications. Also, 3 battle tanks, 2 armored infantry fighting vehicles and several SUVs were deployed there.

Considering the location of Tal Ziyab, Turkey wants to cover the smuggling route of the Syrian oil which is taken out of the ISIS-controlled Raqqa.

“It is a challenge to the sovereignty of Syria from the point of view of international law, and we encourage the Syrian government to protest against the international courts at the official level, – Lifenews cites one of the locals. – In the past, support for the terrorists conducted in secret, but now it is official action of the Turkish army, which requires a formal protest to the United Nations “.

It seems that Ankara has decided to act much more aggresively after the Ministry of Defense of Russia were released pictures and videos of oil delivery convoys at the border between Syria and Turkey.

We remember, on Nov. 24, the Turkish Air Force shot down Russian Su-24 in Syria. Discussing the incident Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that the Su-24 was shot down by Turkey to protect oil deliveries of the ISIS terrorist group.

http://southfront.org/turkey-invaded-syria...ured-tal-ziyab/
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guess it russian accidently bomb them they have every right to do so

they are within syria now and have full legimate support of assad to mobm them

Opps sorry i missed out
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post Dec 5 2015, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(James Bum @ Dec 5 2015, 09:10 AM)
My manager is former military guy... damn horny always think about women n sex. Even watch porn on phone during meeting

That mgr, rizalman case, police lockup rape case n etc gives me the impression and perception  that service men can't  control  their sexual urges. Why? What's  the reason?
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they mana ada internet wtch porn release themselves

cut them some slack.. as long they dont go rapping around like some bad apple
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post Dec 5 2015, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 5 2015, 07:23 PM)
well Spain postpone 13 A400M order,
how about RMAF take 2 unit of Spain order, it without refueling module, much cheaper too, 4 original for RMAF is with refueling module should be enough.
than continue pay via installment.
than we can retire C130H in 2022-2025 already.
btw, just dream since we no have budget.
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it already a good thing that gomen is seeing through the SGPV and A400 order and does not postpone it
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post Dec 7 2015, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 7 2015, 08:26 PM)
Essentially they can go where tanks can go. Although it looks bulky, Paladin SPH are far lighter than most MBTs, at around 25 tons (PT-91 weigh in at 45 tons) and have lower ground pressure.

As a rule of thumb tracked vehicles fare better in offroad situations than wheeled ones and make better all-round combat vehicles.
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the tracked is preference for the formation of our armoured brigade

our army is still very much conventional, tank for support, sph will be back support and must be able to keep up with the tank regardless of the ground terrain. the personal carrier is wheeled because they need to fast to deploy upon successful assault

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