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post Sep 29 2015, 09:53 PM

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DSEI 2015: Rolls-Royce Unveils The Miecznik Design

Rolls-Royce company has unveiled visualizations and details related to the CDV (Coastal Defence Vessel) corvette design, which is offered for the Polish Navy, as a proposal related to the Miecznik programme. Secondly, the British company has also revealed the patrol ship design which is offered within the scope of the Czapla programme.
Both designs are virtually identical, the only difference is visible in the quantity of the utilized armament. Considering the current requirements of the Polish Navy, Rolls-Royce designers are focused on the corvette, assuming that adapting the ship’s layout to the Czapla-class requirements shall not constitute a problem. Patrol vessels are not going to be fitted with the missile armament, the purpose of which would be to counteract the naval and airborne threats. On the other hand, this type of a ship would have expansive SAR functions, along with the minehunting capability. In both cases, ASW capabilities are provided.

CDV corvette is 99.7 meters long (91.7 meters at the waterline), and its displacement is close to 2467 tonnes. The quantity of the crew-members is estimated as 62 persons, additional 30 specialists may also be accommodated on board, in order to operate the on-board task-equipment or to maintain the helicopter. The ship is capable of executing autonomous operations for 28 days, and there is also an option of replenishing the inventory and resources on the water.

CDV vessels feature the CODLOD propulsion system which allows them to reach speeds that exceed 25 knots. The company is open to proposals, when it comes to the armament, however, currently the proposed vessels are fitted with the Oto Melara Super Rapid 76 mm bow cannon, two MSI DS30 30 mm cannons, two quadruple NSM anti-ship missile launchers, four Sylver A35 vertical launch systems, each housing four VL MICA anti-aircraft missiles, along with two double MU90 torpedo launchers.

The current design assumes that the electronic systems on board are going to include the following devices: Smart-S 3D radar, Thales STIR 1.2 EO Mk2 radar-optronic artillery control system, Thales Mirador observation optronic system, Thales Vigile reconnaissance system, along with the under-keel Thales Kingklip sonar. All of the above-mentioned devices are going to work together, within the framework of the Thales TACTICOS combat management system. Rolls-Royce company, by following these steps, is willing to maintain maximum compatibility with the ORP “Ślązak” patrol vessel which is also equipped with the systems delivered by the Thales company.

Among the solutions that distinguish the CDV ship, one should include the task board (with a stern slip for 11 m long boats, and with a space for the second boat and for a standard combat systems container), landing platform with a hangar for an NH-90-sized helicopter (up to 11 tonnes), passive and active stabilizing system – with a track-proven record on the British vessels – along with a specially designed pear-shaped bow. It is worth to note that despite the fact the vessel is capable of housing an 11 tonnes helicopter and 11 m long boat (or unmanned water-craft), the Rolls-Royce company managed to contain the length of the ship within 100 meters.

CDV ship design has already been examined by the Centrum Techniki Okrętowej [Ship Design and Research Centre] based in Gdansk. As a result, it has gained the top certificates, allowing it to operate within any part of the world, excluding the ice-covered waters.

What’s interesting, due to the wide scope of operations executed by the ship, Rolls-Royce also qualifies the CDV design as a light frigate.


http://www.defence24.com/260172,dsei-2015-...miecznik-design

Rather familiar loadout, no?!
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post Oct 3 2015, 05:52 PM

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UK's £1.2bn bill for drone that's seen 146 hours of active duty

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/...t-investigation
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Bodoh punya Guardian. Watchkeeper is a tactical Army drone four times smaller than a Reaper, operated by the Royal Artillery. Different usage from Reaper lah.
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post Oct 7 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 10:06 AM)
max col. if non-scholar, memang ada gen. melayu yg bkn scholar tapi bkn saja melayu... bukan scholar memang susah dpt 1 bintang... unless you're in charge of special operations once

melayu pandai takan masok military punya... lagipon krn melayu ada risiko terrorism byk masok ke polis atau civil defense masa kecik, jd tak ramai masa ns di tentera... yg sign on regular, byk kurang pandai.. jd tak dapat naik tinggi2

yg tinggi2 tu byk airforce, infantry atau logistik/supply..
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Brigadier-General Singapore Armed Forces
December 1981 – March 2011 (29 years 4 months)

Ishak’s experience in the Singapore Armed Forces included: 
a)Commander of 6th Division / CATC (2008 – 2011), 
b)Commander of 12th Singapore Infantry Brigade (2001 - 2005) and
c)Commanding Officer of 6th Singapore Infantry Regiment (1995-1996). 
He served extensively in training related appointments as Assistant Chief of General Staff (Training)/Deputy Commander TRADOC (2007 – 2008), Commander SAF BMTC (2005 – 2007) and training mid-level officers in the SAF in the range of appointments as Head SAF Advanced Schools/Commander Army Officers’ Advanced School (2003 – 2005) and also as Chief Instructor (1999 – 2000) and Senior Directing Staff (1997).


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post Oct 7 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 11:23 AM)
i know la... u read my post properly

this guy is not a scholar but he has good academic degrees, his physical fitness and individual soldiering skills are not exceptional.. a few of the course he attend in his late 30 and early 40s he drop out.. cant blame him as most people undertake these courses at a younger age and because he's tied with infantry chances to attend these course is low... but what made this guy so exception is something that cant be graded on paper, his leadership skills.. he's not only a leader in the military but also in the malay muslim community.. last time not many malay regular nco made it beyond warrant officer rank mostly drop out demotivated and demoralized, this guy pushed them to further studies (many join last time for job security due to poor grads in school) even when they couldnt believe in themselves and many promoted after that... among his men he drink n makan together, what he command he would be there too... that's why he's among the colonels that is not a scholar to be made a general... also he wasnt even in charge of any special operations before which is exceptional cause most non-scholar generals are in charge of an special operation before..

after leaving the military this guy is damn flexible.. he was posted to GLC but he ventured out and ran his own venture...

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Aiksss baca salah sori

Ini I banyak respek o. Its so easy to just sit on GLC board and collect gaji buta. Berani keluar cari makan sendiri, thats something.
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post Oct 7 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 11:53 AM)
so how to find high ranking malay military officer.. yg ishak tu tengok badan dia masa general.. dia tu combat officer bukan service, still can be general walaupon ippt not silver or gold.. hardly you can find any badan besar combat general anymore in the saf but he has something others dont have

a lot of ppl think saf general nerd la, paper general la... but once u know them well, you know they are not just book smart... they follow the israeli model
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Bezanya experience. Israeli troops yang muda pun combat exp banyak. US/UK commandernya experienced also. Bila compare SAF punya General officer - sampai 10 years younger, tiada combat op, susah nak dapat credibility tu.
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post Oct 7 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
that's the problem... sg's main objective is to deter aggressors and if challenge they will have to be swift and decisive

as long as there's peace and no conflict, they have done their job.. when people attack without even knowing, it is too late... macam kiram

although no war/direct combat experience their peace time experience can say a lot about them... aceh tsunami it was sg to arrive first what happened to konstrad? christchurch earthquake still saf guards to arrive first, east cost flood who to arrive first?

there're classified info that ppl dont know so dont just write them off saying they are without combat experience... as a unit probably now, as individuals you and i wont know

macam la others a lot of experience... and are those experience still relevant today?
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Combat ops experience is what counts. Even the UK and US forces have learned that. That being said SAF guards are their elite force I should expect them to be good! (My friend is in that unit.)

I don't know la about east coast. Anyone here got any stories?

Ahh AV8. Looking forward to those Ingwe ATGMs.
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post Oct 7 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 03:49 PM)
combat ops on what scale? what was the nature of conflict? who are the opponents?

inb4 peenoise brag so much about their military when fighting ragtag insurgents...
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Of course I won't go so far as to say Msian army can take on peer opponent and win based on experience fighting Sulu terrorists who don't even have RPGs. And our UN deployments have been peaceful - probably the high point was Mogadishu where Msian army led the UN component, and that was 25 years ago.

But what experience does SG army have? And their numbers are filled out by their NSmen which, no offence but looking at my SG colleagues and friends and imagining them going to fight a war... its a big difference being a soldier 1 month a year and 12 months a year.

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post Oct 7 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 7 2015, 04:16 PM)
u forget bosnia bro? the bosnian deployment is bigger and longer and it was far from "peaceful"
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Bosnia haven't kaji yet so I don't know much about our deployment there.
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post Oct 7 2015, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 04:30 PM)
although msia-sg will hardly go to war, lets do a simple comparison.. for the army

msia have 80k regular, 50k reservist
sg have got 40k regular, 70k active ns, 300k reservist ns, 300k mindef reservist.. more tanks, more armour, more arti, more nearly everything... their personnel are trained overseas, assets are well maintained

well, fighting as a whole unit of course the last one was konfrontasi when msia and sg were together... after that no large scale conflict.. but that doesnt mean individuals within the army have no combat experience... besides peacekeeping, they do have observers at major conflicts where their ally are at war

well, probably your sg colleagues might not be a good representation of what their army is made off...

what to do... conscripts... what they lack they make up with technology and $$$
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We all know the numbers I'm sure. What I've been talking about is experience. I can't say much about military cause I'm not a soldier in Msia or SG army. But from what I see of SG in the commercial fields I'm in, they're very efficient, they can be smart, but often they lack experience and overfocus on the theoretical numbers - leading to mistakes when they try to match their "1st class honours" people against older, more experienced opponents. Their theoretical knowledge will fail against practical experience... and I see signs of the same in their military people.

Amongst my colleagues and friends are Guards officers, specialists and commandos, active and reservist NSmen. Compare them against those who actually fight in ME? I will even bet on Kurds and ISIS in a 1 on 1 fight.

Of course the trouble is that our army will also come off badly against ISIS. So I really hope we don't get involved.

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post Oct 7 2015, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 05:01 PM)
that's why lor... nsf or nsmen... must go see regulars also... lelz, to bet on kurds or isis i guess you really dont know what you're talking about... your colleagues might look nerdy, but if that's what you claim they are.. i believe they are capable of handling their role when time comes.. one of sun tzu's strategy is to use deception.. look weak, whack hard

nah, msian armed forces are more than capable of handling insurgence... probably not so efficient with some casualties.. it is also the culture... pak arab vs east asians and seasians... pak arab's mentality really cannot pakai
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I won't say nerdy, in fact the active NSmen are always very semangat about army. More like comfortable living habits, lack of practice and lack of maturity.

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 7 2015, 05:02 PM)
the thing with the somalian deployment that its considered as the "finest hour", but many forgets that the whole UN forces simply had to withdraw and left the country to rot, resulting zero changes to the ailing country

while the bosnian deployment took longer, it was instrumental to bringing peace in the region, ultimately restoring the lives of millions in those country
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Actually I read the bio of USMC General Tony Zinni, who was in charge of Somalia before and after Mogadishu and he praised the Msian army and our Jeneral while criticising many other allies so... solid info source there.
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post Oct 7 2015, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 7 2015, 05:14 PM)
comfortable living, practice of wat? maturity? lelz... nsf, 18yo... in msia still mostly dota

that's why a lot of things have been catered to them... like the sar21 with scope...
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Practice - reserve NSmen lack it. Active NSmen do more of course but selamba abit. Compare with the Kurd/ISIS/US soldier, even National Guard who are really fighting for their life.

Comfortable living - no one actually believes they will ever go to fight. Even if they fight it will be a "short victorious war" as they are the best in SEA and Abang Murica will come help. 18yo in Msia mostly DOTA but the difference is that Msia doesn't depend on those 18yos to fight - SG DOES.

Maturity - is part of experience. Knowing what is possible and what is too risky. Again 18yo soldiers who don't really expect to fight, and furthermore have been taught they will surely win thanks to those stupid Ahbeng to Men movies... they will experience more battlefield trauma and lower effectiveness than expected.

Basically neither of our countries have a long and consistent history of war unlike the West, Israelis, the Kurds and ISIS, maybe even the Africans. We should realise that.

What do you mean by SAR21? It seems to be a good rifle.

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 7 2015, 06:05 PM)
did you forgot that since merdeka there is no true peace in msia as the whole country was embroiled in insurgency warfare up until 1990 and sprinkle that with konfrontasi against tni, counter-insurgency warfare or unconventional warfare is the very core of our army and it still is

conventional warfare is just short fanfare, and those big countries tend to lose when it comes to unconventional warfare, insurgency warfare makes up the bulk of the battles that ensues, usa failed in triple combo of afghan-iraq-vietnam, hamas still alive and well, the kurds only alive depending on others help and isis still active no thanks to its survival skills obtained during the us occupation
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Bro we really cannot compare with US constant military deployments lahh smile.gif expeditionary summore bukan home ground like konfrontasi (which in the 60s period we relied a lot on UK help). We won an insurgency at home, and not against highly experienced and dedicated fanatics. As alaskanbunny points out, that doesn't translate to experience of, say, division scale conventional war.

US frankly are not focusing on ME anymore.
Hamas are alive because Israelis holding back. Be honest.
Kurds have a major lack of equipment.
ISIS is tough but dying slowly. Like IRA one day they will be gone (though probavly replaced by others)
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Its a demonstration. Putin knows how to make an entrance man!

That pussy in the White House still no response?
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post Oct 8 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 8 2015, 11:29 AM)
well, that's the diff between a democratic country vs an autocratic country... and surprisingly russia's mobilization is kinda fast this time
far from a broken-down third world country? you gotta be kidding me... they probably dont even have a working radar system with only certain areas covered... iraq have air force capable of stopping cruise missiles? well, they can try... and face the consequences with russian warships at their seashore
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Obama just has no balls plain and simple. Margaret Thatcher had loads more balls than him.

What were those fighters Iraq was given earlier this year? F-16s IIRC. Won't do much against all those top tier SUs and MIGs and ships.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2015, 03:02 PM)
Iran very much strongest Russian ally in the region besides Egypt. US lost its influence in Iraq after the fall of Ali al-Maliki. New PM Haider al-Abadi is pretty much Iran's puppet in Iraq.

Nowadays Russia also have been cozying up Jordan and UAE as potential regional partners alongside Egypt. Recently Putin invited them to Moscow for a counter-terrorism conference which unsurprisingly, Saudi Arabia and Qatar declined to attend.
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I rather doubt that will get anywhere. Egypt and Jordan are the US's strongest allies there after Saudi Arabia. Better PR too as they're more moderate compared to Saudi.

My god what century are we living in? Russian Bear back on the rise and fighting proxy wars in desert and Europe. So 80s.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 9 2015, 12:30 AM)
Malaysia are offered to join the JSF programme back in... aku pun dah lupa
but we politely decline and give janji palsu kata nak beli super hornet  tongue.gif
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Thank heaven I don't think we can afford JSF man.

That being said I believe in the JSF. After all the scrutiny and controversy* they will be forced to come out with a better product. And PAKFA is not without its own problems...

*same controversy as Perry, Ticonderoga, Arleigh Burke, F16, F22....
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 9 2015, 04:53 PM)
Not just expensive, it's obscenely expensive.

Even when rich US allies like UK, Japan & SK that were 'ínvited' into the project have shoveled enormous amounts of money into its development, the costs are still climbing up ($1.3 trillion (Overall including inflation), US$59.2B for development, $261B for procurement, $590B for operations & sustainment in 2012) and yet the plane still has a long way to go until it's even remotely battle-ready.
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US $ 1.3 trillion is the estimated lifetime costs of the 2,400 planned US F-35s. This is inclusive of purchase (flyaway) cost, planned maintenance, service and support and allowing for upgrades too. The quoted cost will be the same for all F-35s worldwide, estimated at US $530m per fighter.

Canada's estimate of F-18 Super Hornet lifetime costs is CAD 634m or US $486m each - only US $50m less. Canada will not buy either the F18 Super or F35.

UK's estimate of Eurofighter Typhoon lifetime costs is GBP 420m or USD 643m each.

The F-35 figures are independently confirmed by the Canadian and UK Govts. All figures are based on respective Govts' publicly available data.

Dassault Rafale F3s quoted to India, France and Qatar are USD 290-300m each. This doesn't include the full support program which India's defense minister claimed is the same as Eurofighter and higher than F-18 Super.

I couldn't find reliable Soviet aircraft data, but if the Indians are looking West it can't be very much less than Western aircraft.

Don't buy too much into the anti-JSF hype bros smile.gif

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Moscow’s Jaw-Dropping New Missile Is a 'Wake-Up Call' for Washington.


'' It should be a wakeup call that we don’t have a monopoly
on the capability," Eric Wertheim, a US naval analyst, told
the Daily Beast. ''

'' The SS-N-30 is comparable to the Tomahawk missile .... ''

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151009/102...-Cause-Awe.html
What is he talking about ?

They never did have ANY monopoly on antishipping missiles
from the very start.

Why should it be ''jaw dropping'' for them now, when, to this day,
they still don't have any equvialent to the AS-4 Kitchen - 300 mile range,
MACH 3.5 terminal diving (Mach 4.6 in flight at altitude), 2,000 pounder
warhead - fielded OVER FIVE DECADES ago ?

Let alone the newer seaskimming Strobile, Sunburn and Shipwrecks,
the latter two which have been around since the early 1980s.

To this day, all they have is the pathetic 550 mph, 70 mile range,
500 pounder Harpoon.

Same for the UK and French, which have similarly tiny subsonic
seaskimmers. I believe Britain bought Harpoon when they retired
Sea Eagle, and the Frenchuse later marks of the Exocet.
While fictional, Barrett Tillman's scenario in his book here, of a regiment
of Backfires firing Kitchens, sinking an ENTIRE American carrier battle
group, is quite realistic and entirely feasible.

http://www.abebooks.com/Sixth-Battle-Barre.../11794922066/bd
Russia’s New Mega-Missile Stuns the Globe.

'' That makes it broadly similar to the American Tomahawk missile, ''

That's incorrect. The SS-N-30A is believed to have a supersonic
terminal homing phase. The Tomahawk has no such capability,
being subsonic all the way.
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Yes UK bought and still operates Harpoon. Well West has always followed the doctrine of air power to defeat ships rather than antiship missiles. Its anybody's guess whether a layered defence of fighter CAP, Standard SM, ESSM and lastly RAM can defeat the Russian antiship method. The West believes it can. Harpoon is really only a token weapon.

One thing I've noticed is that proponents of the Russian method kind of rely on everything going right for the Russians and wrong for the defenders. This makes me doubt what they say.

Anyway Kongsberg is developing NSM for US and EU which is supersonic sea skimming and has two submunitions. Very interesting.
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Malaysian Navy establishes Quick Reaction Force to combat piracy

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The Royal Malaysian Navy has set up a special squad code-named the Quick Reaction Force (QRF) to combat piracy.

The 14-man squad comprises two teams, namely the sharpshooters and a strike force, based in Tanjung Pengelih in the state of Johor, Malaysia.

"For the time being, the teams are stationed in southern Johor waters as it is a hotspot for pirates," said Rear Admiral Mior Rosdi Mior Mohd Jaafar, assistant chief of staff exercise operations in the Anti-Sea Robbery Cooperation Working Group held in Malaysia on 6 October 2015.

According to Jaafar, the team can respond within 15 minutes upon receiving a report, deploying assets such as helicopters and an assault vessel to the vicinity of the incident.

"I hope with the establishment of QRF, we will manage to combat piracy effectively," Jaafar said. "It is impossible to have zero robberies, but we will work hard to reduce the figure. To do that, we have to be fast."
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This is pretty cool.

Re: the World of Tanks drone tanks comment - why does that Russian sound so butthurt like kena bully biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 13 2015, 04:18 PM)
Probably a formerly neglected way for Russia to influence things in the Middle East?

"What's that? US want to send a carrier in Arabian Gulf to threaten Iran? Why would you look at that, we actually have long-range anti-ship missiles in Caspian sea. Better think twice, bro"
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That sea is landlocked bro. You literally can't send a carrier in there, because its a giant lake separated from the Arabian Gulf by the whole of Iraq and Iran.

Which is why the whole 'Klub on a small boat' thing is just hot air.

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