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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Sep 30 2015, 04:05 PM

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How much they carry forward?
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post Oct 1 2015, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(prempenang @ Sep 30 2015, 10:32 PM)
izzit confirm 100% indian quota got?
i dun want waste time take time off from work if cant get

if got, tommorow i go bank

rhb can rite?
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Ramjade
post Oct 1 2015, 12:53 AM

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Hmmm, 6.9% don't tell me next year they are going to use their reserves to give 6+? hmm.gif Don't tell me my prediction of PNB reserve for ASX is min 3 years is coming true. unsure.gif cry.gif

Guess is the market.
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post Oct 1 2015, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 1 2015, 07:38 AM)
I have gotten used to the idea that their c/f dividend is always >RM1.50. This time, it's 50Sen only, then out theory is true that over the last few months after the ASM dividend has been paid out, the turmoil has really been damaging to our PNB funds. I can safely assume that the ASB payout at the end of this year will be affected too.

If thing continue as thay are now, bad KLSE performance, giving out loans to support multiple Govern't initiatives which do not yield results, and possibily later on, helped to service coupon payments for 1MDB loans too, ASM payout next year is really going to get hit badly.

Addedd : I think funds need to be set aside too to cushion the RM1.00 fixed price if any investor sells, if the nav has dropped below RM1.00 per unit for that unit being sold. This can be avoided if the fund reverts back to VP fund, will help to reduce the overhead expense needed to cushion for the RM1.00 committed nav till the end of this year.
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From calculations they can give out 6.x% dividends for minimum 3 more years if they use only their reserves

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post Oct 1 2015, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(prempenang @ Oct 1 2015, 07:39 AM)
but someone here already said got plenty of funds already available to purchase
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Just go topup. Bring your book, take no, wait to be call. After that go to counter tell them you want to buy. They said full, tell them if got units available, can buy.

Stop being so worried. Just go. Just sometimes it happen no units. Not available try again at another branch or another time.

Why so worried?
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post Oct 1 2015, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 1 2015, 07:53 AM)
But their reserves are depleting as the days go by because of Govern't requests for their contributions to ValueCap, MGS and perhaps soon, coupon payments for the Mid-East loans coming soon. I see that our Govern't prefers to milk PNB and Tabung Haji more than the EPF.
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Like I said, my confidence level is 5 years. After the 5th year, may pull all out.
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post Oct 1 2015, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 1 2015, 07:59 AM)
Will u top up today?
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How to topup? Only have ASM. Second, no money. So just watch.
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post Oct 1 2015, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 1 2015, 08:08 AM)
Aiseh...
Did u buy popcorn as the show will start from 9am until tonite?  tongue.gif
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What's there to see? The only action to see was yesterday and end of this year. tongue.gif
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post Oct 1 2015, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 1 2015, 08:51 AM)
You mentioned someting like 3 years earlier. Now it's 5 years,... How do you base your judgement on the fact that the PNB will :-

1) Be able to continue giving you a 6.6% dividend every year fro the next five years ?
2) Not revert to Variable Priced funds at end of this year ?
3) Not remove the tax-exemption status at end of 2016 ?
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I won't say 6.6% but 6.x%. 3 years for their dividends from their reserves assuming that they have been keeping aside 2%/year for 10 Years+. If FD can give 4.X%, all they need to do is say dig into their reserves for the 2%. 5 years is for me to pull half my funds out of malaysia.

2) & 3) National interest. If they change something. Mass panic. People withdrawal. No more cookies for them to eat. Right now, we can see that the hand have indirectly invade the cookie jar. So it will be a matter of time before the cookie finishes. I will let them take their cookies for the most 5 years as they will replenish the cookie jar but it won't go back to normal ( I am seeing a deficit) but enough to last 5 years. After all, they still need to eat the cookie. By doing something like that, they won't have cookie to eat, then you know what will happen.

4th and 5th year that's when we need to start worrying. Dividends might drop to 4.x%

Hope that answer your questions.

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post Oct 1 2015, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Oct 1 2015, 11:09 AM)
ASW Fund is fully subscribed
ASM Fund is fully subscribed
ASD Fund is fully subscribed

When you guys see this message, how do you do the topup?
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Go to bank take no. Bring your book. Wait your turn. When your turn come go to counter, they will tell you full (standard reply) tell them you know can topup cause got empty units. Tell them how much. Don't put too much one shot. Try rm5k-10k first.

Sure get
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Pisanggoreng @ Oct 1 2015, 11:32 AM)
U can, but sure tendang balik..
And tendang back will cost you RM1 service charge each time
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How to tendang if nowadays got lots of units? To be safe play with RM5k.

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post Oct 1 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 1 2015, 01:43 PM)
Bro, u didn't top up AS1M today?
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He already said ASM, AS1M cukup in last thread. Now shifting gear to ASW2020.
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post Oct 1 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pisanggoreng @ Oct 1 2015, 02:27 PM)
i'm saying for non-bumi wor...u sure still can?
if likedat i also wanna try
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Just try la. What is Rm1+ when it comes to paying for Petrol and parking. Try rm10k. If you are scared cannot get try rm5k. Rm5k sure can get.
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post Oct 1 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(winyap991 @ Oct 1 2015, 02:43 PM)
Glad, can open an account for both ASW2020 and AS1M.
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Where did you open?

QUOTE(nxtpg @ Oct 1 2015, 02:50 PM)
really can
non bumi
i tried using cimbclicks now

but status is  pending acceptance

hope can get
when will we know?
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Well you know if your money is not refunded. tongue.gif If your money is refunded means got rejected. smile.gif
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post Oct 1 2015, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 1 2015, 06:58 PM)
I've gotten my fair share of asx. now to further collect money into fd
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Next goal should be FSM. brows.gif Or do like unker dreamer, ETF in the US laugh.gif
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:39 PM

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Something doesn't seems right. Maybe PNB have instructed the staff to be actors to give the impression "don't worry be happy" to create demand so in the coming days more people will top-up? hmm.gif

Or wrong timing? My success rates of topping up ASM last time is always >90%
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post Oct 2 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 2 2015, 09:42 AM)
How to transfer?
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Withdraw from as1m, dump into asw2020? Become sort of "tranafer'
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post Oct 2 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 2 2015, 09:48 AM)
Withdraw AS1M, tried to buy ASW but failed, tried to put back AS1M failed as well. Ever thought of this scenario.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 2 2015, 09:50 AM)
No... not favour by banker. Later if he decided to trick U and say all full. Gg
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Simple. Ask for asw2020 rm10k. They said got, give them the ASW2020 book. Do not show them the AS1M book yet. After that give them the as1m book to them to withdraw. That way they cannot cheat you. Cause once printed, is inside already. smile.gif

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post Oct 2 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 2 2015, 10:40 AM)
Already asked ASNB (but not the bank) this method not allowed, no contra, must show cash before buying.
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No contra? I use contra at maybank no problem (remove from my maybank account)

Worse come to worse show them the book but don't letto topup them key in your book account no. Tell them you want to topup.
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post Oct 2 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 2 2015, 11:20 AM)
Done at ASNB or agent banks?
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Agent bank. Never been to asnb

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