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P.S.: Suspected coverup by CDC when you search google results:



For obvious reasons they cannot say banned or outlaw OPV use since other countries are still using it

2) Could be just change in how they diagnose polio

3) See graph above, statistically significant to be an artifact.

4) now AFP vastly outnumber wildpolio cases. I will post an article on why is this so.

He discredited himself. If only he had done proper study on this.
Regarding this halal/haram thing.. as far as I know the quran states that if it concerns heath then it's ok if no better alternative. Correct me if I'm wrong.
On the toxin part.. Some elements contained in vaccine are so miniscule in quantity it's negligible.
We come in contact with alluminium and mercury on a daily basis from our daily food.. But it's the volume that matters.
They are in such small quantities to cause any side effects.

The CDC Made These Two Radical Changes and 30,000 Diagnoses of Polio Instantly Disappeared



The graph is from the Ratner report (1), the transcript of a 1960 panel sponsored by the Illinois Medical Society, on which sat three PhD statisticians and an MD, met to discuss the problems with the ongoing polio vaccination campaign.

The polio vaccine was licensed in the U.S. in 1954. From ‘50 thru ‘55, the striped and clear portions of the bars represent about 85% of the reported cases, or 30,000 per year, on average. Those cases were automatically eliminated by two radical changes the CDC made to the diagnostic parameters and labeling protocol of the disease as soon as the vaccine was licensed – 30,000 cases a year we were subsequently told were eliminated by the vaccine.

That success, held aloft as a banner of the industry, is an illusion. The CDC has an awesome power of control over public perception, sculpting it from behind closed doors in Atlanta, with the point of a pen.

Over the last sixty years in the U.S., more than a million cases of what would have been diagnosed as polio pre-vaccine – same symptoms - were given different labels.

The change didn’t stop there, however. As addressed in the Ratner report, they also changed the definition of a polio epidemic, greatly reducing the likelihood that any subsequent outbreaks would be so labeled – as though the severity, or noteworthiness, of paralytic polio had halved, overnight. It’s summed up thusly in the report:



And that’s precisely what happened to polio: not a real, but a semantic elimination of the disease.

In the decades following the release of the vaccine, additional changes were made to the diagnostic parameters of the disease, changes involving analysis of cerebrospinal fluid and stool and additional testing (2) , each succeeding change making it less and less likely that a diagnosis of paralytic polio would result.

And, critically, before the vaccine was licensed polio diagnoses were made clinically and accepted from around the nation, duly reported to the American public annually as polio, no lab analysis required, while after it was licensed only the CDC was – and is - allowed to issue confirmations of paralytic polio – all suspected cases had to be sent to them for analysis and testing. (3)

Again, perception is key. Because of the persistent pre-vaccine news coverage of the disease, including film footage of paralytic polio victims in leg braces, or immobilized, strapped to huge, inclined boards, or housed in foreboding iron lungs, the public pictured the thousands of kids reported with polio each year as suffering terribly, when in truth the pictures involved only a fraction of a percent of the diagnosed cases.

Moreover, while for many the perception was that the iron lung was a permanent fixture, in the majority of cases the machine was needed only temporarily – generally about one to two weeks. (4)

The arbitrariness of the change in the diagnostic parameter of paralytic polio, from one day of paralysis to two months, resulting specifically in the elimination of all the cases represented by the striped portions of the bars in the graph, is remarkable. Indeed, the very idea that the length of time you’re ill determines the disease is remarkable!, and flies in the face of the science of virology.

Were you to apply the same logic to measles diagnostics, for instance, and add the requirement of a rash that lasts ten days, the disease would be eradicated, since the measles rash lasts from three to five days. To the point, had they made the requirement three months of paralysis instead of two, several additional thousands of cases of paralytic polio would simply and immediately have fallen off the diagnostic plate, hastening the illusion of complete eradication.

All of the non-paralytic cases, represented by the clear portions of the bars in the graph, and which pre-vaccine were the majority of cases reported simply as polio each year, were discarded completely!, reclassified. A search through public health department disease statistics reveals that in the U.S. those cases were basically handled as they were in Canada:

It may be noted that the Dominion Council of Health at its 74th meeting in October 1958 recommended that for the purposes of national reporting and statistics the term non-paralytic poliomyelitis be replaced by ‘meningitis, viral or aseptic’ with the specific viruses shown where known. (5)

Somewhat remarkable too, eh?, that virtually overnight an entire category of disease is simply abandoned; replaced.

The current non-use of the iron lung is often pointed out by vaccine proponents as proof of the success of the polio vaccine, but that, too, is an illusion; years ago it was replaced by much smaller, portable respirators, some body worn, some bedside – and much in use today.

You’ve gotta give ‘em credit for the hubris. Vaccine proponents will actually cite the fact that many illnesses were misdiagnosed as polio pre-vaccine, attempting to explain why the changes following its licensing were necessary, not necessarily nefarious. But as always, perception is the key, as in any magic act, and the CDC on its website continues to forward the illusion they themselves created:



In reality, the charade was continuing right on schedule: Of the ‘35,000 cases of polio reported on average in the late 1940s and early 1950s’, only 15,000 were paralytic – the reduction to 2,500 cases of paralytic polio in 1957, and the complete disappearance of all the non-paralytic cases, was a direct result of the diagnostic changes. It’s smoke ‘n mirrors.

There are a few more puzzle pieces which help complete the picture, the unavoidably undeniable pattern, of conscious, purposeful manipulation of statistics:

In the 90s, “polio eradication initiatives” were implemented in India and Africa. The WHO quickly established the same diagnostic changes in those nations as were made in the U.S. in 1955. The result, as expected, was the announcement two years ago that India is now polio free. What the WHO so conveniently omitted was any mention of the skyrocketing incidence, in both nations, of acute flaccid paralysis (7) , clinically identical to polio, and following in the wake of the use of the oral polio vaccine, abandoned fifteen years ago in the U.S. because it triggers Vaccine Associated Paralytic Polio:




As you can see, the incidence of acute flaccid paralysis quickly soared to tens of thousands, far surpassing the 1996 incidence of polio.

Midst the labeling deceptions lies another insidious character trait of the vaccine industry. During the polio epidemics in the 40s and 50s in the U.S., one doctor, Fred Klenner, MD, cured every one of the sixty polio patients he treated, some of them paralyzed, using massive injections of vitamin C. Astoundingly, after summarizing his work, his success, at the annual AMA meeting in 1949, Dr. Klenner received neither questions nor comment from his colleagues, and no mention of it was ever made to the American public. (9)

The nut: the eradication of polio is a total sham, an example of trust misplaced, of power and control run amok. It’s indicative of every aspect of the vaccination paradigm, propelled by a baseless, industry-constructed fear of infectious disease, statistical manipulation and withholding of critical information, and sustained, ironically, by the very and insidious nature of vaccine injury, the bulk of which displays temporally well divorced from the act of the vaccination, obfuscating causal relation.

References
1. http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/...
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis...-PinkBook2009-1
3. Suspected cases of poliomyelitis must be reported immediately to local or state health departments. CDC compiles and summarizes clinical, epidemiologic, and laboratory data concerning suspected cases. Three independent experts review the data and determine whether a suspected case meets the clinical case definition of paralytic poliomyelitis: http://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/prevguid/m0046568/m0046568.asp
4. Historically, a noninvasive, negative-pressure ventilator, more commonly called an iron lung, was used to artificially maintain respiration during an acute polio infection until a person could breathe independently (generally about one to two weeks). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#Paralytic_polio
5. From: Poliomyelitis Trends, 1958, published by the Dominion Bureau of Statistics, Ottawa, Canada; Catalog No. 82-204
6. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm
7. https://extranet.who.int/polis/public/CaseCount.aspx
8. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/
9. http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

sos

Oral intake is different than injections. Oral intake need to pass through the gut barrier which blocks most of the toxins. Even in trace amounts some elements are considered toxic by FDA standards. I will post more on this.

until today i still dont understand how could parents be anti-vaxxers... sigh....

Come back when you actually have an argument. See previous post

Before polio vaccine all acute paralysis case is classified as polio. Including cases caused by other viruses/illness.
So after polio vax introduced these other cases are classified as NPAFP.. What so difficult to understand this simple concept.
AFP outnumber wild polio but mind u polio is being eradicated with vax.
So it's essentially AFP vs the few remaining polio cases.

Here u can see the difference of polio vs npafp.

This post has been edited by dregatar: Oct 7 2015, 11:24 AM

Explain why the US govnt does not adjust their numbers when proclaiming that the polio vaccine were responsible for polio eradication:



sos

Again it does not explain the need to change the diagnostic just after the vaccine is introduced. Even if diagnostic is changed, they should be able to readjust the polio figures to arrive at a better number. None of this was done

i dont understant ur first question.
2nd one NPAFP is a new diagnosis after the introduction of polio vaccine.

for example if got 100 ppl with paralysis every. scientist think its polio so they make polio vaccine.
after giving polio vaccine still go 30 ppl paralysis every year.
so they take this 30 ppl and check their blood for polio virus. when they found no polio virus they coined the term NPAFP
meaning this ppl a paralysed due to a unknown/different pathogen/illness. meaning anything thats causes AFP in children other than polio automaticalli falls under NPAFP
same like how all AFP cases falls under polio before the introduction of the vaccine

so like u posted in 1955 the remaing 10-15 % were paralysis cases probably caused by non polio virus or ppl that were never immunised

its a crude exmple but i think it'll suffice

This post has been edited by dregatar: Oct 7 2015, 11:57 AM

Because different disease.
Because they don't have the numbers previously.
Because you are stupid.

Holy fark, you guys are ignorant. How can there be a second disease when its basically the same disease but with just a change of diagnosis the data is skewed in favor of polio vaccines? Thats like saying ohh you have a flu. But do you have cough as well? Ok lets classify the flu and the cough as different diseases so the numbers in favor of flu looks amazing.

Is anyone with me on this? Otherwise you are just gonna refute all my claims with blind faith and that is gonna be a pointless discussion IMO.

Let me help you.

Go find out the cases of afp. The report on fecal study, mri, blood test.

After that, show the different cause of afp in percentage.

Because one is caused by polio, the other is not.
And different prognosis, and different management.

This is what happens when don't know about what your'e talking about.
You just make a fool out of yourself.

things that can cause AFP Here

u have to understand the difference of symptom and disease
flu caugh AFP are symptoms. it is a condition that can be cause by many diseases
poliomyelitis is a disease which presents with AFP symptoms
its just one of the things that can cause AFP not the only

i still think i blind faith ah??
pls la unlike u i actualy know what im talking about.

because of this many ppl get broad spectrum antibiotics if they go to the doctor for flu or caugh.
broad spectrum meaning its effective againts many bacteriae
because there are too many bacteriae that can cause cough and flu

This post has been edited by dregatar: Oct 7 2015, 12:33 PM

So tell me do you agree before polio vaccine, AFP would be classified under polio diagnosis?



The numbers can't lie

Lack of meat = stupidity.

kalau dah bodoh tu, dengar cakap orang yg pandai. jangan nak berlagak pandai sama.

U tell me what u understand from that graph..