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post Nov 11 2015, 11:28 AM

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For the AWD, is it centre differential with a Viscous Limited Slip Differential or Active Torque Split type?
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(CuriOu5 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:11 AM)
The SA is correct.
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can they bought 4wd ecu unit and install to 2wd car?
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(CuriOu5 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:11 AM)
The SA is correct.
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No he is not. The pictures above juz show the overall available stuff for asx.. Malaysian one not full spec yet. Trust me.. I mess around my car inside out.. Even lancer.. Asx.. All come find me..

I have implemented asc for many lancers and inspira.. It's a same system with different configuration for asx. All 2 2wd.

The list of items for asc to work..
1. Steering angle sensor
2. G sensor
3. Asc pump.

For a 2wd system it has a different part number compare to a 4wd version. When the 4wd engage.. The logic works differently.

The picture u show is all the drive train inside asx

The list of ecu available in the car..
1. Engine ecu
2. Etacs
3. Aircon climate control
4. Abs (local ckd 2wd version)
5. Asc (local 4wd version and 2wd CBU)
6. Speedo meter (yes it is an ecu)
7. Sun roof (yes it talks thru the Lin bus)
8. Power window (driver only.. Older version support all 4)
9. Wcm (non kos version)
10. Kos (kos version)
11. Oss (kos version)

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post Nov 11 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 11:28 AM)
For the AWD, is it centre differential with a Viscous Limited Slip Differential or Active Torque Split type?
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Active torque split.
Max 50/50
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Khalid21 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:30 AM)
can they bought 4wd ecu unit and install to 2wd car?
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No. U don't need the 4wd system to run asc.. U need a different asc model for the 2wd..

Put it this way.. When 4wd not engaged it is running 2wd.
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(CuriOu5 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:11 AM)
The SA is correct.
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trust me, it works in 2wd and 4wd...

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post Nov 11 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:34 AM)
No he is not. The pictures above juz show the overall available stuff for asx.. Malaysian one not full spec yet. Trust me.. I mess around my car inside out.. Even lancer.. Asx.. All come find me..

I have implemented asc for many lancers and inspira.. It's a same system with different configuration for asx. All 2 2wd.

The list of items for asc to work..
1. Steering angle sensor
2. G sensor
3. Asc pump.

For a 2wd system it has a different part number compare to a 4wd version. When the 4wd engage.. The logic works differently.

The picture u show is all the drive train inside asx

The list of ecu available in the car..
1. Engine ecu
2. Etacs
3. Aircon climate control
4. Abs (local ckd 2wd version)
5. Asc (local 4wd version and 2wd CBU)
6. Speedo meter (yes it is an ecu)
7. Sun roof (yes it talks thru the Lin bus)
8. Power window (driver only.. Older version support all 4)
9. Wcm (non kos version)
10. Kos (kos version)
11. Oss (kos version)
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i want a yaw sensor angle and a SST transmission with a 4b11T plus the ECU pls... biggrin.gif

what's OSS / KOS / WCM?



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post Nov 11 2015, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 11 2015, 11:48 AM)
i want a yaw sensor angle and a SST transmission with a 4b11T plus the ECU pls...  biggrin.gif

what's OSS / KOS / WCM?
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Oss stand for one button start stop ecu.. This ecu check it ur car is started or not so it know to kick the starter or kill the engine when u press the button.

Kos is the one responsible to look for the keyless and authenticate with it before u open the door or start the engine.

Wcm..wireless control module.. For non keylessone.. When u press the remote.. It authenticate if ur key is valid. Also to allow u to start the engine. Normal key
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 11 2015, 11:41 AM)
Active torque split.
Max 50/50
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Thanks sifu. Looks like something similar as the Subaru XV. I wonder this is how many steps behind the ACD of CZ4A.
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 12:13 PM)
Thanks sifu. Looks like something similar as the Subaru XV. I wonder this is how many steps behind the ACD of CZ4A.
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I would says it pretty useless.. It's meant for grip in slippery surface. Not performance oriented like cz4a at all..
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post Nov 11 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 11 2015, 12:38 PM)
I would says it pretty useless.. It's meant for grip in slippery surface. Not performance oriented like cz4a at all..
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The AWD model is around 100kg heavier than the 2WD models, with driving dynamic and fuel consumption in consideration , I'm not sure if this is justifiable over the 2WD. What I can see is that the AWD model MIGHT have better vehicle dynamic in wet surface or wet weather one the 2WD with higher fuel consumption.
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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 02:35 PM)
The AWD model is around 100kg heavier than the 2WD models, with driving dynamic and fuel consumption in consideration , I'm not sure if this is justifiable over the 2WD. What I can see is that the AWD model MIGHT have better vehicle dynamic in wet surface or wet weather one the 2WD with higher fuel consumption.
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Fc shouldn't different by that much. Unless u r those rm0.20 also kira type.. Trust me, u won't be engaging the 4wd.. Once in a blue moon..

I would rather see it this way.. I want the asc and kos.. Thats why I choose the 4wd.. Not because of the 4wd system instead.
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post Nov 11 2015, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 11 2015, 02:51 PM)
Fc shouldn't different by that much. Unless u r those rm0.20 also kira type.. Trust me, u won't be engaging the 4wd.. Once in a blue moon..

I would rather see it this way.. I want the asc and kos.. Thats why I choose the 4wd.. Not because of the 4wd system instead.
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Well, I don't think I would be too calculative on the petrol but if the fuel efficiency is good, then it's a bonus. For me, I would put it to either "Auto" or "Lock", that's the reason of buying AWD model. I believe the AWD can contribute to a better performance if you're rallying in the oil palm estate tongue.gif despite not a very advanced AWD system.

Besides the centre, do you know anything about the front and rear differential? At that price, I don't expect AYC like performance but at lease not those conventional outdated types.
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post Nov 11 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 03:09 PM)
Well, I don't think I would be too calculative on the petrol but if the fuel efficiency is good, then it's a bonus. For me, I would put it to either "Auto" or "Lock", that's the reason of buying AWD model. I believe the AWD can contribute to a better performance if you're rallying in the oil palm estate  tongue.gif despite not a very advanced AWD system.

Besides the centre, do you know anything about the front and rear differential? At that price, I don't expect AYC like performance but at lease not those conventional outdated types.
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Putting it to auto will make the fc worse..

Front and rear.. Answer simple.. Open diff. Lolz
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post Nov 11 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 02:35 PM)
The AWD model is around 100kg heavier than the 2WD models, with driving dynamic and fuel consumption in consideration , I'm not sure if this is justifiable over the 2WD. What I can see is that the AWD model MIGHT have better vehicle dynamic in wet surface or wet weather one the 2WD with higher fuel consumption.
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i can assure, you will only use the 4wd like maybe 30mins MAX for the whole car life tongue.gif

i have a pickup truck, and i never used and needed the 4wd

only use once in a blue moon just for fun (4 wheel drift on the sand beach)
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post Nov 11 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 11 2015, 03:26 PM)
i can assure, you will only use the 4wd like maybe 30mins MAX for the whole car life  tongue.gif

i have a pickup truck, and i never used and needed the 4wd

only use once in a blue moon just for fun (4 wheel drift on the sand beach)
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drove my dad asx for 3 weeks before send back .. yes.. its more like less than 10 min tongue.gif

anyway .. my latest toy ...



psstt... it ripped from an ASX (Australia version) .. hehe

AND YES! the wiring is available in my DAD's CKD 4wd asx ... but the toy is in my ride tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 11 2015, 04:26 PM)
i can assure, you will only use the 4wd like maybe 30mins MAX for the whole car life  tongue.gif

i have a pickup truck, and i never used and needed the 4wd

only use once in a blue moon just for fun (4 wheel drift on the sand beach)
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Very true unless you are a project manager travelling on non-tarred road.

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 11 2015, 03:18 PM)
Putting it to auto will make the fc worse..

Front and rear.. Answer simple.. Open diff.  Lolz
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Open? blink.gif Too bad. You're absolutely right that it's not performance oriented AWD. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 11 2015, 03:26 PM)
i can assure, you will only use the 4wd like maybe 30mins MAX for the whole car life  tongue.gif

i have a pickup truck, and i never used and needed the 4wd

only use once in a blue moon just for fun (4 wheel drift on the sand beach)
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I believe we all understand the 4WD on the Landcruiser and the AWD on the Mitsubishi's Super AWC are different, don't we? I don't feel like engaging the 4WD on the typical pickup truck to thrash corner, that would be sweat.gif biggrin.gif

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post Nov 11 2015, 04:29 PM

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Those whom wish to know more ... (today im free to share) .. tongue.gif

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This is the available ECU's within your ASX ... (Malaysia so call full spec is not totally full spec yet)..

I will explain one by one ..

1. ABS-ECU / ASC-ECU --> for ASC it comes with ABS function. Malaysia earlier CBU 2wd comes with ASC, while the later version CKD 2wd only ABS while 4wd is with ASC

2. Steering Wheel Sensor --> this sensor ecu send signal into the network telling the car steering pointing to where... these information will be use by ASC to do calculation on the action to be taken when u lost control.. it is not applicable for ABS version. In lancer/outlander, it is use for AFS as well .. adaptive front lighting system .. ASX does not have AFS on all variant because the HID version headlight is one of the best , wides that you do not need AFS.

3. EPS --> Electric power steering

4. 4WD-ECU -> engage the electronic coupling at the rear . only for 4wd CKD version (Malaysia)

5. Corner sensor / (Reverse sensor) - NOT AVAILABLE in ALL MALAYSIA Model.. refer to the video i post just now. This is original from mitsu. The one install in malaysia model, both front and rear are 3rd party made in china sensors. It is idependent from the car system.

6. Engine ECU - Control the engine.

7. AS&G - Auto Start and Go , not available in malaysia market, it basically kill the engine when u stop at traffic light. Wanted to mod, but no point as the heat will kill me tongue.gif

8. Headlamp automatic leveling ECU - not available for local halogen version as the halogen version use manual leveling tat you can control within the car. With auto leveling, there are gyro sensor (front n rear older version, newer just rear), it will adjust the headlight height automatically

9. CVT-ECU - for CVT version


10. SRS-ECU - Control the airbags.

11. Heater control panel or A/C - YES.. this bugger is an ECU as well. Older version can install a light sensor for A/C , the auto will work much better, during hot sun, the Air will blast stronger.

12. WCM / KOS - As explain in previous post

13. OSS - As explained as well.

14. Combination meter - yes .. it is a ecu, it picks up the signal from the network and display the RPM , calculate the average fuel consumption..etc


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post Nov 11 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 11 2015, 04:22 PM)
Open?  blink.gif Too bad. You're absolutely right that it's not performance oriented AWD.  shakehead.gif
I believe we all understand the 4WD on the Landcruiser and the AWD on the Mitsubishi's Super AWC are different, don't we? I don't feel like engaging the 4WD on the typical pickup truck to thrash corner, that would be  sweat.gif  biggrin.gif
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Extracted from the ASX service manual

Left (2wd) .. Right (4WD)


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