I recently bumped into some guy's kia sorento as i was trying to park into a small space. It's a minor scratch at the spot above the front-right tyre. He's asking me to pay RM700 as he is sending it to Kia Service Centre. I feel like he's trying to take advantage of me. And normal paintjob at workshops probably cost less than that. Can anyone please advice me on this? I'm really lost and i don't want the guy to take advantage of me.

This post has been edited by Darkmagic88: Sep 8 2015, 09:25 PM

juz go with him to kia service center n ask for a receipt

rm700 too much bro..normally maximum for repaint at the small part only rm150-rm300(if kemek n need ketuk). sure they try poww tu

So you're saying that i should pay up the RM700 for the paintjob?

I know man. Can you advice me on what i should do?

aiya... even full bumper paint only rm 180 the most... whre got rm700... kia sc got paint meh?

some sc provide paint and body works

If I'm the owner, sure demand u pay up. It's your fault to begin with. If unhappy, make a police report and pay RM 300.

That is the problem with service centers - they don't 'ketuk'. They change the entire side panel. That is why it is so costly.

both of u go to any paint shop/workshop.. ask workshop estimate the cost. or u can call any workshop to get estimate cost

since you met with a tyrant
you have 2 options

1. tell the sorento guy go your workshop
2. police report, let him claim your insurance

like that follow that douche to his kia sc and straight ask the cost n straight pay.

if expensive go report kpdnkk la dey. afraid that douche sudah kawtim with tht sc mati la u.

no. 2 is the most expensive option

I believe official SC cant do this

other choices?

if your brand new car you ok with cincai ketuk a?

1) you're in the wrong sub-forum
2) aluminum parts these days aren't easily knock back and definitely require filling and depending on how much filling/quality of filling used/job done, it won't be as it was originally.
3) car parts and car job aren't as cheap as what most people put it out to be, ESPECIALLY when owner insist it to be in original condition.

if you can't/aren't willing to pay, by all means please settle with police report/claim insurance.

just to give you an idea, proton ori plastic bumpers easily cost between 200-300 (or more) depending on models.
paint job per panel (treat a bumper as one panel) is easily 200-500 or more.
an aluminum fender panel is easily in the 300-600 or more per side.

in certain cases you can polish back, however if deformed too much or even the clear/base coating all scratched/chipped off, you're out of luck.

again, a car isn't cheap.
don't want to pay, please don't bang people.

.... hypothetically....

if the car is less than a year old..... new car...


you want that felar to ketuk ketuk? ...

Mine changed whole bumper original set. Rear hatch reluctantly ketuk ketuk abit since need car fast. changeing takes time....

If he's arrogant, just go report and ask him claim your insurance. IIRC, any claims below a certain amount couldn't be proceed. I would be more than happy to pay 300 to the forces.

I think RM700 is fair, cheap even if he want to get the entire panel replaced by the authorized SC, which is what I would do anyway if I am the victim. Why should I settle for a lousy ketuk ketuk job for new car because of someone's fault.

To put it bluntly - it's your fault for bumping his car. In all fairness, why should the victim settle for less when it was solely your mistake? In fact, even if you pay up to get his panels fixed he would be out of a usable car as it needs to be in the body shop to get it fixed to its initial state - and again, that's not fair for the victim at all.

He's right about changing panel, it's your fault to begin with. Just ask him claim your insurance if he insist the RM700.
You're paying your insurance yearly anyway. Yes your NCB will go but it saves headache to deal with this Sorento tyrant.

If he refuse to claim your insurance, tell him to go to your preferred workshop.

your thread moved to main forum and i believe you should have gotten your answer ya? if so please proceed to close thread

Go anywhere also paint still paint mah. Unless the Kia SC using Nippon lel..

Sharing - One fine day i banged an accord from behind. Got scratch and a little kemek. I had to pay 1500 for the repair cost. Dont know if really 1500 or not but since his car was brand new i just pay , dont want to argue more with him.

Without picture very hard to tell, and even if there are pictures, they may not tell the whole story. There may be some internal damages like clips etc that needed repair or replacement too.

But best thing to do is, if the victim wanted to get it fixed at the service center, follow him and get the quote, then that will make sure you won't be taken advantage of.

TS, you have 2 choices. Pay the RM700 or nego for lower amount. If the fellow don't want to budge say claim your insurance. Then it's up to you if you want to make police report. Without your police report his claim on your insurance is very difficult but I'm not giving you any ideas. OK?

Options

1) Pay as per receipt, which burns your pocket

2) report and claim insurance, which cost your ncd 0%

3) offers rm200-250 which you think is normal painting job. if he/she refuse, ask him/her to report n claim warranty. (50% chances that the car owner wouldn't go thru all hassle for claim that small amount of RM$$, judging that the driver is driving a RM150k++ car)

Why the heck number 3 still applies.... zzz warranty?

The sorento was the victim. Either he pays, or claim the insurance of the offender.

and it's not about hassle... If it's your new car you want to just go through normal outside workshop paint job with no guarantee watsoever it won't fall off the moment you drive out the next day?

This is about right and wrong. YOu bump into someone. YOu're responsible for the damages. If the victim cincai, then ok. If the victim go SC and SC says want change whole body side panel. Still your fault and your responsibility. Ain't no ketuk ketuk for a new car. And expensive car somemore....

To be fair, a reasonable cost of repair for minor scratch /dent per panel at a relatively good workshop is about rm300-400 but this is not replacing any panel. Of course depends on how bad is the damage. So you can try nego this amount, or both of you can go to his or your workshop for exact quotation. I doubt that even at the Kia SC they will replace with entirely new panel if the damage is minor so it might not be rm700 in the first place.

But yeah, what most above said is true, you have made a mistake that inconvenience and cost him so in the end you're at the weak side and responsible to repair it like it was before. That's the sensible thing to do if you're a responsible person. Just that now you try to minimize the cost as much as possible but still be responsible and reasonable. Don't expect to get away with cheapo repair roadside work if you hit a relatively new and expensive car as that's not fair to the victim. What you can do to nego is calculate and weigh how much is your cost if he insisted with the rm700 vs the loss of your NCD if he claims your insurance and the police report (which is minimal rm300 already to the police).

So lesson learnt, next time be more careful and don't force parking into tight spots if you don't have the necessary skill to do it.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Sep 9 2015, 03:39 PM

u experience before? or talk for fun?

probably you are talking to someone like me(victim) that doesn't matter someone that bang my 1 month old RM140k++ car and din ask for single $$.

i forked our rm500+ to repair my front/side panel.

so? probably i'm just pure dumb la

This post has been edited by askm3: Sep 9 2015, 03:42 PM

if someone bang my car, i will change the whole panel to brand new at official service center
i dont want to knock, touch up or repair, i mau brand new

bad luck and sorry but you have to pay for it since u bang it, go together to sc and get the quotation/receipt

last time a pretty girl carelessly bang my car i let her go cos she is pretty

personally i will go through the hassle, i dont want lousy paint job
and since he pissed me i will piss him back double

yep, depends on type of offender.

certain cases close 1 eye.

yea some ppl dont care their car outlook much, just a transport to them
while some ppl one hairline scratch cannot sleep until it is fixed

We have to be fair to both parties. If the scratch is a minor one which can be touched up for less than RM100 is it fair for the owner to demand RM700 to change and respray the whole panel?

Since the one who made the mistake is willing to compensate the owner should be reasonable too. If the owner is too unreasonable TS can refuse to pay anything and refuse to make a police report. Good luck to the owner to claim TS's insurance.

Btw, if you send to SC to do touchup, the SC will most likely send outside to repair also. Just expect to pay more for the same quality that you can get outside.

well, as u said we have to be fair
if you bought a RM5K bag, i accidentally scratched it, u want repair or brand new?
if u are so considerate and nice to opt for repair, do you prefer official or some third-party?
outside can touch up for less than RM100, while official will change the whole side of leather at 10x price.

having less one enemy is always better than having one more


doing paint job at SC have warranty, you can do it countless time until you satisfy with it
thats why dont repaint or repair, just change new, no eyesore, paint or surface problem later and no headache

RM300 only or tell him go report police and you pay RM300 to police hehehe

Actually the police report is done by the victim, not the TS. So if the TS refuse to pay anything, then the victim can make police report then use that police report to claim insurance. Then if not mistaken the insurance will go find the other party insurance and get the claim there, hence the TS will loose his NCD and need to pay police report of rm300.
CMIIW though but that's my understanding so far. That's why when I got hit one time before, that's also my negotiation point and hence the guy who hit me still knew that if I went to police and claim insurance, he would end up paying more than what I asked as damage compensation. But yeah I of course also asked a reasonable amount around rm400 which was fair to repair the bumper scratch & dent that he caused me.

Me victim kena Bang. Mine cheapo car. But still only 6 months old.

Damage is bumper and rear hatch. changed whole bumper. Realign for rear hatch. He wanted to settle at cheapo workshop that knock the bumper back out.. No way. Claim his insuranCe

Didn't even count inconvenience caused by lack of transport

Both have to make police report.
One side make. Cannot claim yet. Police can only issue order to the fellar to come and do police report. As long as he didn't make. Ur insurance cannot claim as his fault.

Yes. This means. Someone hit your car. And he runs away. Good luck. Best is to claim ur own insurance but lose ncd. Or wait police can korek him do police export

700 is for new bumper inclusive of painting.
Since the other party insists, pay for it but request for the old bumper.
If its only small scratch u can sell the bumper probably 400-500 to cover back ur losses.
Dont claim insurance coz its not worth it even if u have 0% NCD.

yup repair/replace waste our time, if bad work then more time wasted to rectified
i rather pay him and ask him go bang wall instead of my car

As so much comment i can see only ...why you want to drive ? when u on the road u should know its either u bang ppl or bang by ppl .. so , ride a bike ..problem solved

this one ma example of not reading thread lo

TS bump into people's fender wo... you think that metal fender panel that cheap a?

ride bike, bang jor terus die, no need worry anymore since dead already right?

I assure you the police won't bother. If he doesn't make report there is still a way to claim his insurance but it's a long and complicated process. Not worth it for RM700.



This post has been edited by KennyKB: Sep 9 2015, 08:50 PM

Using your logic better respray the whole car. Spraying one panel can have different colour right? Or why even respray the car? Better demand a new car because you want original paint.

TS made a small mistake but it doesn't mean you can korek anything you want out of him. Agreee with Ginny88 both sides have to be reasonable. The settlement should not make any party feel victimized or bullied. Remeber that TS can just walk away leaving the other fellow with nothing.

he is asking for 700, not KIA sc asking for 700. get it?

Honda SC repaint my accord bonnet only 550 with gst...

seems legit.....

If it is the guy that asks for it... then it's wrong....

It should be go SC, get quotation....

What happened to your bonnet? Did it involved with knocking? Replacing the entire bonnet?

Really didnt read coz tl;dr and no pic.
Fender oso depends wat car model lor..
May even be more expensive than bumper.

My advise still same.
Get official quotation and fix it, if possible retrieve the old part and sell off to cut losses.
RM700 claim insurance is really not worth it, unless its 3rd party insurance not 1st party.

Oh you're very wrong.

The "victim" (TS admit bumping to said victim car anyways) can always make a police report, and if TS no show, definitely rm 300 summon, and if still determined TS fault and official report /conclusion made, there goes TS insurance NCD/ncb

My frd bang someone vios rear bumper before, a minor scratch can settle easily with a simple pain job but that fella wn to claim insurans 1.5K including changing bumper + paint in Toyota authorize workshop ... Mayb u can ask him to your body shop and ask for quotation because service centre sure gonna be more expensive. + last time some body shop quote me 180 for bumber/ fender

lol

even riding a bike if u bang someone's side panel/bumper etc with enough impact it probably going
to cause a same amount of damage, meaning a same amount of money u have to forked out

and not to mention car vs bike, usually bike suffered the worst, so yeah, there goes ur money again

and last but not least, the risk of bike rider falling/flying off the bike tergolek/patah tangan/patah kaki/patah tengkuk etc

"problem solved"...really?

yes, for me owner is being considerate spraying only the part, with risk having different color tone
remember he wont be making a fuss over a small scratch if he does not care about it in the first place

nevertheless, if cannot come to conclusion, just let him claim insurance

Hmm then there's a loophole for those who make a mistake to simply get away with just a max rm300 cost to the police. By right if one fails to make a report then that party should be on the wrong side by default an hence must bear the cost of the damages. Insurance should have the means to get the claim from the other party so he'd still be penalized to the max for his/her mistake.

some stone chips, cos moving behind some highway monsters..

Well..If no knocking or panel replacement then 500+ for the paint job is fair considering you did it in the service center.

nono , my opinion was not motorbike .. its basikal , since all of here sakit kepala about claim claim claim or don want to fight or whatever ,everybody ride a basikal , problem solved , save the earth some more or save monthly petrol expenses ..