To put it bluntly - it's your fault for bumping his car. In all fairness, why should the victim settle for less when it was solely your mistake? In fact, even if you pay up to get his panels fixed he would be out of a usable car as it needs to be in the body shop to get it fixed to its initial state - and again, that's not fair for the victim at all.

He's right about changing panel, it's your fault to begin with. Just ask him claim your insurance if he insist the RM700.
You're paying your insurance yearly anyway. Yes your NCB will go but it saves headache to deal with this Sorento tyrant.

If he refuse to claim your insurance, tell him to go to your preferred workshop.

your thread moved to main forum and i believe you should have gotten your answer ya? if so please proceed to close thread

Go anywhere also paint still paint mah. Unless the Kia SC using Nippon lel..

Sharing - One fine day i banged an accord from behind. Got scratch and a little kemek. I had to pay 1500 for the repair cost. Dont know if really 1500 or not but since his car was brand new i just pay , dont want to argue more with him.

Without picture very hard to tell, and even if there are pictures, they may not tell the whole story. There may be some internal damages like clips etc that needed repair or replacement too.

But best thing to do is, if the victim wanted to get it fixed at the service center, follow him and get the quote, then that will make sure you won't be taken advantage of.

TS, you have 2 choices. Pay the RM700 or nego for lower amount. If the fellow don't want to budge say claim your insurance. Then it's up to you if you want to make police report. Without your police report his claim on your insurance is very difficult but I'm not giving you any ideas. OK?

Options

1) Pay as per receipt, which burns your pocket

2) report and claim insurance, which cost your ncd 0%

3) offers rm200-250 which you think is normal painting job. if he/she refuse, ask him/her to report n claim warranty. (50% chances that the car owner wouldn't go thru all hassle for claim that small amount of RM$$, judging that the driver is driving a RM150k++ car)

Why the heck number 3 still applies.... zzz warranty?

The sorento was the victim. Either he pays, or claim the insurance of the offender.

and it's not about hassle... If it's your new car you want to just go through normal outside workshop paint job with no guarantee watsoever it won't fall off the moment you drive out the next day?

This is about right and wrong. YOu bump into someone. YOu're responsible for the damages. If the victim cincai, then ok. If the victim go SC and SC says want change whole body side panel. Still your fault and your responsibility. Ain't no ketuk ketuk for a new car. And expensive car somemore....

To be fair, a reasonable cost of repair for minor scratch /dent per panel at a relatively good workshop is about rm300-400 but this is not replacing any panel. Of course depends on how bad is the damage. So you can try nego this amount, or both of you can go to his or your workshop for exact quotation. I doubt that even at the Kia SC they will replace with entirely new panel if the damage is minor so it might not be rm700 in the first place.

But yeah, what most above said is true, you have made a mistake that inconvenience and cost him so in the end you're at the weak side and responsible to repair it like it was before. That's the sensible thing to do if you're a responsible person. Just that now you try to minimize the cost as much as possible but still be responsible and reasonable. Don't expect to get away with cheapo repair roadside work if you hit a relatively new and expensive car as that's not fair to the victim. What you can do to nego is calculate and weigh how much is your cost if he insisted with the rm700 vs the loss of your NCD if he claims your insurance and the police report (which is minimal rm300 already to the police).

So lesson learnt, next time be more careful and don't force parking into tight spots if you don't have the necessary skill to do it.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Sep 9 2015, 03:39 PM

u experience before? or talk for fun?

probably you are talking to someone like me(victim) that doesn't matter someone that bang my 1 month old RM140k++ car and din ask for single $$.

i forked our rm500+ to repair my front/side panel.

so? probably i'm just pure dumb la

This post has been edited by askm3: Sep 9 2015, 03:42 PM

if someone bang my car, i will change the whole panel to brand new at official service center
i dont want to knock, touch up or repair, i mau brand new

bad luck and sorry but you have to pay for it since u bang it, go together to sc and get the quotation/receipt

last time a pretty girl carelessly bang my car i let her go cos she is pretty

personally i will go through the hassle, i dont want lousy paint job
and since he pissed me i will piss him back double

yep, depends on type of offender.

certain cases close 1 eye.

yea some ppl dont care their car outlook much, just a transport to them
while some ppl one hairline scratch cannot sleep until it is fixed

We have to be fair to both parties. If the scratch is a minor one which can be touched up for less than RM100 is it fair for the owner to demand RM700 to change and respray the whole panel?

Since the one who made the mistake is willing to compensate the owner should be reasonable too. If the owner is too unreasonable TS can refuse to pay anything and refuse to make a police report. Good luck to the owner to claim TS's insurance.

Btw, if you send to SC to do touchup, the SC will most likely send outside to repair also. Just expect to pay more for the same quality that you can get outside.

well, as u said we have to be fair
if you bought a RM5K bag, i accidentally scratched it, u want repair or brand new?
if u are so considerate and nice to opt for repair, do you prefer official or some third-party?
outside can touch up for less than RM100, while official will change the whole side of leather at 10x price.

having less one enemy is always better than having one more


doing paint job at SC have warranty, you can do it countless time until you satisfy with it
thats why dont repaint or repair, just change new, no eyesore, paint or surface problem later and no headache

RM300 only or tell him go report police and you pay RM300 to police hehehe

Actually the police report is done by the victim, not the TS. So if the TS refuse to pay anything, then the victim can make police report then use that police report to claim insurance. Then if not mistaken the insurance will go find the other party insurance and get the claim there, hence the TS will loose his NCD and need to pay police report of rm300.
CMIIW though but that's my understanding so far. That's why when I got hit one time before, that's also my negotiation point and hence the guy who hit me still knew that if I went to police and claim insurance, he would end up paying more than what I asked as damage compensation. But yeah I of course also asked a reasonable amount around rm400 which was fair to repair the bumper scratch & dent that he caused me.