Those phases might be overkill, perhaps we don't even need more than 12 phases for LN2 LOL
Look at EVGA Z490 DARK, it will have just 12 x 60A probably to destroy those 16-phase boards.
But I believe to cater for insanely OCed 10-core 10900K, hence the 90A is there for robust supply of power, high effectiveness and good quality MOSFETs for better heat tolerances.
BTW, it's been a long while since we last heard about OCF, where's Nick Shih?

EVGA Z490 DARK has 12 phases of 60A vCore MOSFETs hehe. The rest are power phases for iGPU, SA, IO.
Z490 Formula/Extreme/Apex has 16 x 70A/90A/70A respectively.

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16YJ...5-2Q/edit#gid=0

^ I will put this at Post #1 for ease of reference.

32GB (2X16GB) 5000MHz C18 anyone?

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Pr...32GX4M2Z5000C18

So, NDA for 10th Gen processors has been lifted today!
Here I spent a bit of time compiling some 10900K OC results posted by various review sites.

Review Site	CPU OC (GHz)	vCore (v)	Review Link
Pokde.Net	5.1	1.355	https://pokde.net/review/intel-core-i9-10900k-review/
Benchmark.pl	5.1	1.35	https://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/i...procesorow.html
	5.2	1.4
Comptoir-Hardware	5.1	1.33	https://www.comptoir-hardware.com/articles/...0.html?start=17
ComputerBase	5.3	1.407	https://www.computerbase.de/2020-05/intel-c...em_und_methodik
Conseil-Config	5.2	1.365	https://www.conseil-config.com/2020/test-in...9/#overclocking
ElchapuzasInformatico	5.1	1.3	https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2020/05/i...cking-y-consumo
Guru3D	5.2	1.35-1.45	https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel..._review,28.html
Hardware.Info	5.2	1.375	https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/9944/26/in...en-overkloktest
HotHardware	5.1/5.2?	1.325	https://hothardware.com/reviews/intel-core-...nchmarks?page=4
Hexus	5.1	1.247	https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/141577-i...10600k/?page=11
Jagat Review	5.1	1.252	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=574zE1hH7ds
Forbes	5.1	1.3	https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/...d/#71dd31cf500d
KitGuru	5.2	?	https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-wald...-for-concern/8/
Lab501	5.2	1.3	https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/rev...re-i7-10700f/26
Optimum Tech	5.3	1.348	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSvg_W6xYpU&feature=youtu.be
OC3D	5.4	1.403	https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mai...10900k_review/2
Xfastest (TW)	5.2	1.48	https://www.xfastest.com/thread-241117-1-1.html
	5.3	1.5
Vortez	5.3	1.35	https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel...k_review,4.html
Dinos22	5.0	1.212	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUYZ8bUnnI...1QAzFaVzlEmwGag
WCCFTech	5.2	1.37	https://wccftech.com/review/intel-core-i9-1...otherboards/12/
TweakTown	5.2	1.335	https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9465/10th...cpu/index8.html
ThinkComputer	5.1	1.353	https://thinkcomputers.org/intel-core-i9-10...essor-review/8/
Sweclockers	5.1	1.323	https://www.sweclockers.com/test/29606-inte...ke-s/22#content
Tom's Hardware	5.1	1.3	https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-...0k-cpu-review/3

This post has been edited by owikh84: May 20 2020, 10:59 PM

New DDR4 for 10th Gen from G.Skill...

2x 32GB DDR4-4400 CL19-26-26-46


2x 16GB DDR4-4400 CL17-18-18-38


2x 8GB DDR4-5000 CL19-26-26-46


2x 16GB DDR4-5000 CL19-26-26-46


Source: https://www.gskill.com/community/1502239313...4%A2-Processors

DDR4 6666MHz & 7.7GHz on Z490 Apex!


This post has been edited by owikh84: May 21 2020, 09:47 PM

10900K @ eBay

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=i9-10900K

MSI Z490-A PRO
8x4 4400 17-22-22-42 (B-die) @ 1.50v, 1.47v SA, 1.4v IO
32Gx2 4400 19-26-26-46 (Micron E?) @ 1.50v, 1.37v SA, 1.3v IO



This post has been edited by owikh84: May 22 2020, 07:02 AM

It turns out that ASRock played tricks on HWBot scoreboards.
They are using an unofficial 2-DIMM Z490 Aqua for submission, which is unethical because using the same name as the 4-DIMM retail board. This is cheating!



https://hwbot.org/newsflash/5143_2_days_aft...getting_broken_

WTF, ps!

Intel 10th Gen CPUs & ASUS/MSI/GIGABYTE Z490 mobo local pricing is up guys...









http://build.idealtech.com.my/builder/index.php

Edit 25/5: Apparently the above ASUS price list was preorder pricing. IDT today updated their price list as below:


This post has been edited by owikh84: May 25 2020, 06:59 PM

[der8auer] 10900K delidded, 7c drop



[Shimizu_OC] 10900K delidded vs Solder+LM



[DF] Intel Core i9 10900K Review: The King of Gaming Performance



This post has been edited by owikh84: May 25 2020, 09:34 AM

Crucial Ballistix MAX DDR4-5100 CL19 (Micron E?)


Source Nick Shih fb: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=102229...a.2587796294206

Just realized that Ballistix MAX series is available up to 4400 CL19 2x16GB @ 1.35v! So that new 5100 kit might be added next.

https://www.crucial.com/products/gaming-memory/ballistix-max



This post has been edited by owikh84: May 25 2020, 07:24 PM

I don't print money bro, so gonna wait forever to be able to afford this new platform.
10900K + Z490 Formula = RM5k

Time to let go KS+Z390 LOL. Anyway now big question is where to get that 10900K?

Hot stuffs atm... I heard shortage everywhere. Here's retail 10900K + Z490 Formula in da house!




Not a good chip though... SP 78 only


This post has been edited by owikh84: Jul 19 2020, 09:01 PM

Average 8700K @ 5GHz should be 1.30-1.35v.
20c is a huge drop, my 8700K only dropped 11c after delidding.

2nd chip is slightly better in terms of voltage and thermal performance.



Chip #1) 10900K | Batch X016E875 | SP 78 |
Core/Cache | BIOS set/Min vCore | Idle/Load temp (°C) |
5.0/4.7 | 1.175v/ 1.172v | 35.7/ 71.9
5.1/4.7 | 1.200v/ 1.199v | 35.5/ 73.0
5.2/4.7 | 1.275v/ 1.270v | 36.4/ 82.5

Chip #2) 10900K | Batch X016E858 | SP 82 |
Core/Cache | BIOS set/Min vCore | Idle temp (°C) | Load temp (°C) |
5.0/4.7 | 1.160v/ 1.154v | 33.9/ 68.3
5.1/4.7 | 1.195v/ 1.190v | 34.1/ 74.8
5.2/4.7 | 1.265v/ 1.261v | 34.6/ 82.3





M/B: MAXIMUS XII FORMULA | BIOS 0606
H2O: EK Supremacy EVO RGB + 2x 360mm rads + 12x GT
Results are based on LLC8 and CB R20 stable. Will try LLC6/LLC4 later….

So far, I can’t run 4x8GB 4133+ B-die stable on Z490 Formula, let’s see how it goes with Z490 AORUS Master.



This post has been edited by owikh84: Jul 19 2020, 09:28 PM

Sorry guys for being less active in this thread recently, been busy with MCO stuffs (working in a pharma factory that produces medicines)...

Okay, let's get back to benching again. Here's my short OC results with the Z490 AORUS Master board (it's now on sale in LYN garage sales in case you missed it).



From my testing, the AORUS Master requires the same load vCore as the ROG Formula, at least in one loop of CB R20 benchmark. For example at 5.2/4.7GHz core/uncore all-core OC:

Maximus XII Formula:1.261v
Z490 AORUS Master: 1.265v



While I was a bit upset with the ROG Formula on RAM OC, in which I encountered inconsistent stability with 4x8GB B-die RAM at DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17 (even with auto timings), the AORUS Master however allows me to achieve stability with excellent repeatability. According to a renown overclocker that I managed to contact, Z490 board ranking in terms of ease of RAM OC would be MSI > GBT > ASUS > ASRock. There's been an issue of B-die inconsistency on Z490 especially on populated 4-DIMM slots.

4x8GB DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17 @ 1.40v:

* Ignore the wrong tFAW.

2-DIMM RAM OC on the AORUS Master is awesome as well, maxing out at 4700 CL18.
On ROG Formula, I only managed to stabilize the RAM up to 4400 17-17-17-37 @ 1.50v. Higher than that is not stable, failing TM5 almost instantly. Suspect is the wrong ODT training.

2x8GB DDR4-4400 CL17-17-17-37 @ 1.45v:


2x8GB DDR4-4500 CL18-20-20-44-2T @ 1.45v:


2x8GB DDR4-4600 CL18-22-22-42-2T @ 1.45v:


2x8GB DDR4-4700 CL18-22-22-42-2T @ 1.50v:

Don't know bro, maybe B-die chip itself or PCB.
Btw, my 4266 sticks are 2019+2020, same strength based on my initial testing.

Edit, I'm not aware of ASUS having issue with 2 DIMM board with A2 PCB. I only know previous ASUS boards using T-topology DIMM layout, which favors 4 DIMM over 2 DIMM at high RAM speeds. On T-topo with 2 DIMM, you can go up to DDR4-4133 only. Higher than that says 4266 you will need 4 sticks otherwise it won't boot. Now all Z490/X570 ASUS decided to go for Daisy-chain layout, so 2x8GB 4266+ is now possible.


I have contact of Team's rep straight from Taiwan HQ, or at least I can ask local media reviewers to check out for you.
Build Tech is one of the local distros for Team.
What specific kit are you interested at?

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jul 18 2020, 11:58 AM