confuse again....i thought that marketiva is a virtual software so mean i like playing a game, right?

marketiva is one of the forex broker..

broker offer demo account/ practice account for beginner..they give u 10k -50k virtual money and u can use that virtual money to trade in real market/ current market situation..with virtual money...if u loss..it will not effect u.

Ok....using virtual money to invest in REAL MARKET?
so juz to train up, is it?

So if using real money to invest, 4k usd minimun needed?

yup..thats the idea..to give u the feel of real market b4 u start to use real money..

4k is only my suggestion ..time by time, u will know the right amount u need to start trading 

invest in knowledge first..take the first step..

see my siggy for forex class..easy to understand n malaysian teacher   

trade wit marketiva..but do analysis with meta 4 platform..marketiva is too simple platform...

i tell u one secret..sometime marketiva platform is slow than meta trader..so u have chance to enter the market at metatrader price     

Meta 4 platform is it good?, will give it a try later. I am trading futures using Thinkorswim. Its thanksgiving so I am kinda free to post here .
It a good idea but IMO difficult to implement if you are almost half way around the world. You know what I mean. Just curious , what time frame do you trade? My initial feel is that forex is best swing traded.

haha.....nice advertising there....
but i think i had read up somewhere that can online self learning....
Or i can direct ask u guys here...

I think i read up somewhere that 5k usd can earn 800usd profit in 1 month....so this consider a common 1 or high profit?

Ok....using virtual money to invest in REAL MARKET?
so juz to train up, is it?

So if using real money to invest, 4k usd minimun needed?

everything can be possible if u have the skill to do the analysis..

see first page...i make 122usd in 5days..only using 360usd as my initial margin...

Ok if you are really serious in diving into the world of trading. Prepare for the hardwork and pain you are gonna endure. Am I scaring you    . I scare myself sometimes  But seriously, I would not be asking how much do I need for my seed capital, what I will be asking myself is , Will my capital gain value?How can I achieve this or will I just burn and blame everything else except myself .
Training is part of your development as a trader. I strongly believe paper trading is the best way to get started. You get to place trade with out losing molah of course you don't make real money too . I remember using OptionXPress and blowing my acc couple of times.   Once you are profitable for a period of time trading paper then move to live.By the way retail trader are called paper by floor people. There you will find more thing you need tackle and tune. And by the way trading is not like getting a degree IMO. Just my thoughts.

Ok if you are really serious in diving into the world of trading. Prepare for the hardwork and pain you are gonna endure. Am I scaring you    . I scare myself sometimes  But seriously, I would not be asking how much do I need for my seed capital, what I will be asking myself is , Will my capital gain value?How can I achieve this or will I just burn and blame everything else except myself .
Training is part of your development as a trader. I strongly believe paper trading is the best way to get started. You get to place trade with out losing molah of course you don't make real money too . I remember using OptionXPress and blowing my acc couple of times.   Once you are profitable for a period of time trading paper then move to live.By the way retail trader are called paper by floor people. There you will find more thing you need tackle and tune. And by the way trading is not like getting a degree IMO. Just my thoughts.

for swing trade..i use h4 TF..
but now holiday..so i become scalper at the 5m n 15m tf..
u trade futures..so forex is the same..same method to to TA on the futures graf

I think i read up somewhere that 5k usd can earn 800usd profit in 1 month....so this consider a common 1 or high profit?

HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS HAVE MANY INHERENT LIMITATIONS, SOME OF WHICH ARE DESCRIBED BELOW. NO REPRESENTATION IS BEING MADE THAT ANY ACCOUNT WILL OR IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE PROFITS OR LOSSES SIMILAR TO THOSE SHOWN. IN FACT, THERE ARE FREQUENTLY SHARP DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND THE ACTUAL RESULTS SUBSEQUENTLY ACHIEVED BY ANY PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS IS THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY PREPARED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. IN ADDITION, HYPOTHETICAL TRADING DOES NOT INVOLVE FINANCIAL RISK, AND NO HYPOTHETICAL TRADING RECORD CAN COMPLETELY ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT OF FINANCIAL RISK IN ACTUAL TRADING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND LOSSES OR TO ADHERE TO A PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM IN SPITE OF TRADING LOSSES ARE MATERIAL POINTS WHICH CAN ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO THE MARKETS IN GENERAL OR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY SPECIFIC TRADING PROGRAM WHICH CANNOT BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PREPARATION OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND ALL OF WHICH CAN ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS.

real or virtue? 

not scaring me though. Of coz something need to be sascrifice at 1st b4 i can earn back another thing. I will be quite excited if i master it also. Juz quite blur as i juz start my study a couple hours ago....i was like....WTH is the web saying?

then all question mark...?????   stars too....

if virtual...how come only 477usd..hehe
this is my virtual account....



see the balance 


hehe..u see what i mean if u try to learn with out having teacher to guide..  very hard my friend...

real or virtue? 
not scaring me though. Of coz something need to be sascrifice at 1st b4 i can earn back another thing. I will be quite excited if i master it also. Juz quite blur as i juz start my study a couple hours ago....i was like....WTH is the web saying?

then all question mark...?????   stars too....

Haha....wat u trying to say if only i had more money, i could earn more too....right?

the balance is 5 figure? Haha...hope it was my money ( real not virtue  )

Haiz c 1st, i juz suddenly interested in Ferox, mayb i will change my mind in second...

My bad english, i not really understand the quote....
still too young + bad english i assume

Saying is the easy part I can assure you. You're malaysian right not working I hope, Imagine sitting in front of the computer at 8.30pm to 4am, well depends if you wanna just trade the morning or afternoon sessions. Waiting sitting waiting, staring at the computer, tired then suddenly you see an entry, a chance ,you go for it, few minutes later the market move your way, you rejoiced, in the back of your head you imagine, you are walking to the bank tomorrow, then in one tick/minute, it reverses, you wanna bail out, hastily you send the close order,  you are not getting filled wtf you get whipsawed and cursing wtf happened. You said that it for today, sleep. Tomorrow is a new day.Haha now that literature for ya. Yes it did happen.