Came across an article in the star today.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Metro/Community/...munity-dilemma/

much have been said about these make shift G&G.
while some flourishes, some causes much anguish.

how effective are these?

a wise friend once told me, we do not need these in the first place. why should we be paying security when it is the duty of the police to ensure our safety and security in the 1st place.

which other countries practise these. have these become a necessity or luxury. when luxury become a necessity, it is no longer funny. have the country deteriorated to such low levels that each 'taman' needs it? what are we paying tax for then?

what are our police to population ratio?
how is this compared to other countries?




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G&G become extremely popular simply because of Security.

I believe G&G in developed countries like Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway etc… is a foreign term, unless of course you’re the super-rich/elite/monarchy etc…

On the flip side, on the African continent, G&Gs look like prisons with chain linked barb wires, elephant fencing, flood lights, CCTV, motion sensors and of course armed guards. Yet incidence of murder and robbery still occur within a G&G.

The police in our country is plagued by laziness and using their time pursuing the wrong agendas. It therefore necessitates the public at large to form G&Gs. G&Gs may also present a false sense of security, crime will inevitably happen but the impact of it is significantly mitigated since opportunity to commit it has decreased or made difficult.

Criminals are like animals too. They hunt only the weak and forgo the strong. They will also hunt a prey that they will need the least amount of effort and resources to take down. Say for example a cheetah, why does it go after preys like antelopes but not an elephant?

I think ultimately, rather than depend on other people to provide for our safety, is best for us to take our own pre-emptive steps before someone get’s hurt or worse.

but from statistics, it is worth noting that most burglary in G&G is also contributed by the security co as well.
as they know best the people going in out and therefore have an opportunity to plan for it.

heck even police reported cases of police motorcycles being used as snatch theft vehicle yet claimed that the police are not involved.

sigh.

G&G merely mitigates the opportunity (i.e. an easy escape route, risk of detection, transportation etc….) for crime but as I have said it can also create a false sense of security, when we let our guards down… there’s bound to be trouble around the corner.

Am not surprised at all even criminals move into condominiums to overcome security restrictions.

G&G under strada will soon in big trouble. under new strada act revised lately, maintenance fee will be calculate based on unit share. whoever have bigger share will need to pay more. no more say all standardize

My opinion is just that property management is just not professional. Couple with owner that just equally unprofessional. Half don't want to pay the other half don't want to work.

A typical maintenance fees [strata or G&G] would be around RM200-RM300 ... its a large sum of money actually. i can do quite a lot of investment with those number.

I help run my Taman (non register) security service, only RM40 per month still have people cannot afford to pay. got auto gate and 24/7 patrol ... what else you people want with such peanut fees ... lolz.

so overall, not in favor of G&G services but its really important to have people maintain a property. The hiccup is that everyone need to agree and pay the fees if not is very hard to maintain a place properly.

This is the main problem of strata properties.
The owner mindset need to change.
Without all cooperation in term of paying up maintenance fee and respect and obey the rules set, it is hard to beef up security issue.

A lot of people don't realise that in order to have good security, owner themselves need to lead by example.

Guys,

Help me this.

My neighborhood is starting GnG but now only 56% registered. My question is
1. is there any regulation to make other resident to pay?
2. If persatuan was created with AJKs and not registered, is is legal?
3. Do we need to register with local council as our area handled by MPSJ?
4. What is the exact regulation and guidelines?

Thank you

1. Unless the property is strata title to start with (which is under strata title act), then no law to govern that owner must pay up.

Below is a good read regarding the issue mentioned.
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/conveyancin...ies_part_i.html

the RA that enforces strict G&G procedures is good.

many times with the "power of the hand" i manage to drive into the area without even stopping to register.