sorry for potato quality photos

Doing business while pretending it's "community service" is just one thing.

After going through a couple dozen CtrlAlt GB pages in GH, I realised something else - Cody and Bunny love to bounce the ball back and forth.

Bunny: "Your item should be with Cody, but he is busy, I will ask him later."
Cody: "Bunny knows more about your order, I am not sure, I'll get him to update you."

This is a great tactic for buying time, as it allays customers' anxieties (hey, at least ONE of the bosses replied me) and gets them to ease off for a few more days.

I used to know a company that did this thing all the time.

Boss #1 (on the phone to supplier): "Your payment cheque with boss #2, but he is overseas now, don't worry I will rush him for you."
Boss #2 (on the phone to customer): "Your order is being handled by boss #1, he is currently on leave, it will be completed when he gets back."

Padahal both bosses are sitting side by side in the same office.

We called this tactic "Singgam Linggam". I try to avoid companies that set up two key men to play Singgam Linggam. It's better to deal with faceless entities where your support ticket can be answered interchangeably (e.g. Massdrop), or with companies where one guy is answerable to everything (e.g. Pexon).

Im not all talk, im going custom, already planning a 60% and a TKL build, using gateron clears, for 60% either GH60 satan or NERD60, TKL still finding for a PCB, easiest set i've seen is the groupbuy going on at the fb group which people seem to be salty about

So you're saying since there's nobody that has a passion and spending power, so we shouldn't care? If people see a non-active community why would they jump in? You rather join a community that has people constantly discussing about boards, how to make them, how to modify them. Or a dead group that only posts about new boards and people asking whats the best cheapest board, no longer a club more like a recommendation thread.

hello    anyone tried gateron reds? how is it compared to cherry mx reds? looking to get myself a rantopad mxx to try out 

thanks for the assurance 

it has 35g actuation force right? i don't mine it being lighter haha. after using cherry reds/browns for awhile i cannot go back to blues anymore 

okay thanks, I was hoping to find something lighter than cherry reds so gateron reds it is then! 

Since everybody is circle-jerking on Gaterons, I guess it's a good time to bring this up.

A while ago I reviewed the Magicforce Smart 68 keyboard. I, too, fell in love with Gaterons.

And then this happened.



One of the switches lost its clickyness overnight. Literally overnight. I was typing up some e-mails at 11pm, went to bed and woke up to find the switch f**ked. So I de-soldered it (as you can see from the pic), opened it up but could not figure out what happened. Technically it *does* still work, although the click is almost inaudible (the tactile bump remains unaffected). Now all I can do is wait for my replacement switches to arrive.

I generally have good luck with peripherals. My Razer mice from 10 years ago all still work fine, I rarely have to RMA stuff, and I have never had a keyboard switch fail on me up till now. Be it Cherry MX, Razer, Kailh, Outemu or whatever. This Gateron is the first, and it also happens to be from the newest board in my collection.

I am just sharing my experience (bearing in mind how people are so quick to bash Razer switches for lesser reasons than this), so please do not misread this post as "Gateron sucks, don't buy them". I will personally continue using Gaterons in my customs & other projects for an extended period of time before I pass any sort of judgement. I just hope they don't fail on me again.

Thanks Justin, yeah I took out the spring & stem and wiped them with a small microfiber cloth.

Then I blew some compressed air into the housing & dabbed the clicky leaf with a cotton bud. But the click sound is still very weak.

I'll try posting a comparison video if it's not too troublesome to make.
Really? 

Here you go:

   

Wish I could post pics of this faulty switch vs a working one, but don't want to take the risk of de-soldering and opening more than I need to.

Now you know why I dulan la?

You see all his post? You just think without bias for a while... I paid so much money for one year, with proof of payment summore, but he never deliver. You think leh?

REddit first. Dunno where to post on GH, unless you have an idea.

I might once my connection stabilizes.

Damn, really got poisoned into buying once you get a taste of it.

My second mechanical in a year. Planning to use this at work.

Haha. Far from it. It's just that the usual recommendation of getting switch testers really doesn't do it for me. I'm the type of guy who needs long hours and the full experience to decide something. The only thing I got from playing around with mech kbs at shops is that all of them feel awesome. I can also read all about the different switches but that won't tell me how good it would feel.

Money certainly is an issue, escpecially with today's economy but I guess this is the solution for me.

I see, thanks for the information 

Then if i want to improve the keystrokes on my larger keys, what can I do? 
this one I have been following its AMA in Reddit and while this concept is not bad, this is not new also... apparently there exist another one called aimpad

also, i think this tech is good for linear switches only, as it can constantly detecting the change in force applied (as Wooting suggests, currently is at 256 states via control by software) but for other type of switches such as tactile switches like MX browns, MX clears or even clicky ones are kind of difficult, especially clicky ones as they would need the keys to reach a certain level of depression before the "clicking" takes place and registers 

just my thoughts though, open for discussion 

Hello just bought ducky shine 4 (blue switch) ! really happy
I want to know if this keyboard can change MX switch? If yes , where to buy MX switch? need to change certain key to red switch cuz i play o2jam alot
Don't get me wrong , I love blue switch

justnits what's the pros & cons for IKBC C version vs F version? apparently, i translated to english & yet still don't really understand.

G > F > C C is eco & can't adjust the brightness?

PBT two-color molding translucent keycaps mean can see thru LED more clear? Ray carving PBT?? Mixed high and low voltage change??

Ah dang it... GMK does not play nice with Gateron Blues...

Come here to rant..

My Rapid-i mia "R" key LED dead.

if no mistake;

C is new released on Dec 2015, confusing part is the reaction mode like Ducky feature must DIY using "mixed high and low voltage change" (高低电压混改) + Ray carving PBT (雷雕PBT) look nice for me

G is older version released around 2014, (PBT二色成型透光键帽) google translate PBT two-color molding translucent key caps but i think is like vortex double-shot PBT key caps

G can change LED brightness with 5 different level but i'm not sure C can or not? those features is mostly based on s/w so i'm not sure if i can use the firmware from G to implemented on C

my budget around USD 100

AZIO MGK1-RGB (blue kailh) i can only get it end of this year to save shipping cost as my lil bro is coming back

but i leaning towards IKBC keyboard layout b'cos very simple & brown switches.