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shih
post Aug 20 2007, 02:59 PM

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PCSF should have a big rise today but I did not buy it last Friday, so wait for another good buying day.
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post Aug 21 2007, 01:22 PM

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Green is always good. I hope UTs can get back into green during CNY or GE and I am going to have another plan again.
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post Aug 22 2007, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ Aug 22 2007, 12:28 AM)
i filled that form
she messed up

i chose auto debit becoz im most of the time oversea, and PBE online sux.
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PBebank is a lot better now after they implementing the PAC system. The system faster than Maybank2u but less features.
For fund top up, no problem at all.
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:15 AM

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dzi921, I want to get myself another 'tian zhu' also since I lost mine months ago. I need some 'ONG' in my UTs, stocks and myself also. This month is really a bad month. Market crashed and buses crashed also.

Btw, I am planning to go into PCSF in near term. Will make it a 5-10 years investment plan.
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Aug 22 2007, 09:21 AM)
I've been using PBE since the 1st day i buy UT...everything ok and smooth nod.gif

PCSF is at really attractive price right now...less than 0.22
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You are interested also? Hehe, I think I will make a switch over it since balanced fund is not performing now.
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 22 2007, 09:37 AM)
There are many fake/new/imitation 'tian zhu' around. Those are not so 'gheng'

If you want antique/authentic type, you can go here to their HQ (don't go branch cause not much choice). Check the address at http://www.dzikingdom.com/index2.htm

I've spent a lot on my dzi. The one in my avatar 9 eye and 21 eye. RM3k each

PS, not advertising  sweat.gif
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Ok, a little off topic already.

Your avatar one seems like not an 'old' one, but i am not saying it is a fake nor immitation. Hope it can work for your unit trusts.
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post Aug 23 2007, 12:31 AM

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Dont need to worry so much about UTs, as it is meant for long term investment.
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post Aug 23 2007, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 23 2007, 07:57 AM)
Switching tru and forth too frequent is not recommended since each switch will cost you RM25.
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The Fund Manager have the right not to switch your fund if you have been doing that twice within 3 weeks times.
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post Aug 23 2007, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 23 2007, 09:52 AM)
Where you get this info?
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Read the T&C back of the switching form.


Added on August 23, 2007, 10:15 am
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Aug 23 2007, 10:05 AM)
My dad's Mutual Gold. I'm investing as joint account with him as first party
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They only considered First Holder for Mutual Gold. If you have Mutual Gold Jointholder, you do not enjoy any benefits, you still have to pay Rm25 switching fee and wait a few days for the money when you redeem.

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post Aug 23 2007, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ Aug 23 2007, 12:09 PM)
PAC is extremely troublesome esp if u r not in malaysia no?
HSBC one rox
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Register your account. So that you dont need to get PAC again for following top up.
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post Aug 23 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 23 2007, 12:49 PM)
I just called customer service and they said why sometimes you cannot switch is because the fund is sold out for the day (not closed)

I'm going to register a new aggressive account today. Maybe PAGF or PIX. Still thinking. I don't feel like investing into PCSF though it seems hot cake now


Added on August 23, 2007, 1:10 pmFrom 22/08/06 to 22/08/07

PAGF: 45.77
PIX: 35.60
PSMALLCAP: 54.88
PSMALLCAP looks tempting
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I think PSMALLCAP already sold out. I am not sure but cant enter last time.
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post Aug 23 2007, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:24 PM)
After thinking, I think I'm a moderate heart person

Just came back from bank. Opened PGF instead
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Why you did not choose PEF instead of PGF?
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post Aug 23 2007, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(epuel @ Aug 23 2007, 05:09 PM)
can you guys tell me whats the difference between

1. Unit Trust and Shares in Stock Exchange a.k.a saham (bcoz as I know both depends on the KLCI right )

2. Unit Trust and Life Insurance ( bcoz both can be consider as saving right )

Thanks in advance.
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1. Unit Trust is an investment scheme that pool all the money from the unitholders and invest into certain investment products like stocks, FD, bonds and so on. Normally, UTs invest in shares like what you should know, Maybank, Tenaga, TM, Genting, etc. Unit trust can have wide diversification depends on the fund itself, while in stocks, you are buying into one single counter each transaction.

Got index-linked stocks/shares that carry certain weight in the KLCI, when the index-linked stocks increase, KLCI increase.

2. Unit trust is an investment, life insurance is for protection. But the investment-link policy for certain insurance use some portion of your money to invest too.

It is better for you to google for the term that you want to know more about it, because it is a big and general scope for Unit trust, stocks, and insurance.
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post Aug 23 2007, 06:31 PM

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Hehe, I am much younger and NOT an expert. Still have a lot to learn about UTs, insurance and stocks.
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post Aug 23 2007, 06:52 PM

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Haha, I dont mean it. You are as good as a young, healthy and wealthy man.

Btw, the quaterly fund report and the interim/annual report is very useful, you can use it to track what the stocks you are holding. If you want to g for long term investment, you can take the chance to follow the fund manager's choice. but be sure you do the cost calculation 1st.
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post Aug 23 2007, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(epuel @ Aug 23 2007, 07:37 PM)
can you tell me what is the disadvantages?  smile.gif

BTW, thank you dzi921 and shih for the explaination.  notworthy.gif
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Not to say disadvantages but in comparison, you might see some difference from trading stocks, FD, and others.
For me,
1. High entry charge.
2. Lack of transparency.
3. Many procedures.

But overall, it is still a good investment vehicle for me, as I dont have much time to do monitoring. So, the diversification, professional management and good liquidity suits my taste.
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(athlon 11 @ Aug 23 2007, 11:27 PM)
don't forgot the old school teach:don't invest more than RM100k on unit trust.due to its high service charge.
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If you can invest in UT for 100k ,you can forget about the service charge if it can make more profit and you know how to switch your fund. You might just have to pay once for your whole life.


Added on August 23, 2007, 11:34 pmThe service charge is a MUST, unless you choose something else.

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post Aug 24 2007, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Aug 23 2007, 11:52 PM)
furthermore if it's giving a really good return then i don't see a reason not to invest this much
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That is different from one to another. Example: Why you only buy 10 lots of Genting shares while others buy 1000 lots? The problem is people think that it is profitable and they understand the risk. The later pay more for the brokerage too.

Same case for UTs.
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post Aug 24 2007, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 24 2007, 09:02 AM)
Just to double confirm, there are so far 4 closed funds right?

1) Public Enchanced Bond Fund
2) Public Bond Fund
3) Public Ittikal Fund
4) Public Islamic Bond Fund
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PSMALLCAP
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post Aug 24 2007, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 24 2007, 09:33 AM)
I'm thinking to open one pure bond fund today. What do you guys suggest?

Open:-             
Public Institutional Bond Fund                 
Public Select Bond Fund
Public Islamic Select Bond Fund

Close:-
Public Bond Fund
Public Islamic Bond Fund
Public Enhanced Bond Fund

Already have:
Public Islamic Enhanced Bond Fund
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I am ON for Islamic Banking, so I would say Public Islamic Select Bond Fund.
I just have account for PBOND and PSBF. Sold my PIBOND, looking for PISBF later, not now.

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